Has a female ever produced anything noteworthy ever in the history of music?
Before you SJWs get triggered, I am 100% serious.
Music is a man's profession. Always has been, always has been.
Women who had men backing them up... >Portishead....Geoff Barrow and Adrian Utley >Cocteau Twins...Robin Guthrie >Bjork....Nellee Hooper >CHVRCHES....The other dudes who wrote songs >Pixies....the other dudes who wrote the songs
The only exception to this rule I can think of is Joanna Newsom and even then that's not much of an outlier to disprove my point that women are incompetent at music.
Eliane Radigue, Sachiko M, Pauline Oliveros... I could go on all day.
Brayden Lee
Haim
Camden Cox
Okkyung Lee
Aiden Howard
This is correct
Adrian Jenkins
Sofia Gubaidulina, Galina Ustvolskaya, Victoria Jordanova ... the list could go on
Jayden Foster
grimes
Josiah Long
You know their father writes all their songs, right?
Joseph Moore
PJ Harvey Jarboe I like early Hole, so Courtney Love
Oliver Bailey
...
Jaxon Edwards
I didn't. source?
Mason Jackson
Hildegard von Bingen Cecile Chaminade (for writing one of the few flute concertos people actually care about) Amy Beach Lili Boulanger
Juan Diaz
REc threads belong on
Isaac Smith
Tori Amos, Regina Spektor, Kate Bush
Asher Martin
Holy fuck this is the worst thread I've on Sup Forums. As if Kim Deal didn't carry the goddamn pixies and completely disregard the Breeders while we're at it. Black Eyes would be shit if it weren't for their female vocalist, hell I'd even say Wussy would too.
Julian Gomez
You're dumb as fuck.
John Jackson
Joni Mitchell
Camden Roberts
You obviously haven't listened to much music at all.
Jack Richardson
DAE think that Kim Deal and her sister have had an ongoing incestuous affair their entire lives? If you watch them closely during that doc on the Pixies, where they're doing the reunion tour or whatever, she and her sister kind of give off this vibe? Idk it bugs the shit out of me thinking about it.
Jaxson Sanders
Joanna Newsom Kate Bush Julia Holter Fiona Apple Vashti Bunyan Joni Mitchell Sibylle Baier Patti Smith Lisa Germano
And those are just the ones I listen to. Stop being such an edgelord OP.
David Cook
Your assessment of the examples shows a top-down approach to asserting credit to the artist, that is, you assessed them after you formulated your opinion on the subject. Someone who believes that men are inherently untalented would find their argument supported by any female involved in a male artist's career.
There are less women in the music industry, but I think it points more to social in/disincentives pitched differently towards the different genders, besides the obvious factor of mobility.
Bentley Myers
Who the fuck hasn't mentioned Janis Joplin?
Angel Torres
Yeah but she had david gilmores help
Xavier Nelson
>DAE
Adrian Ortiz
so? every male in the music industry has had another persons help, too. thats just how the music industry is. almost nobody makes music completely solo besides some electronic musicians maybe. the "hurr what music this female musician made doesnt count because a man helped her" argument is incredibly shit and useless
Connor Young
:^)
Hudson Wright
...
Luke Moore
Myra Ellen Amos
Bentley Perez
NICO
Christopher Powell
Ctrl + F No Joanna Newsom
Samuel Torres
Look at the OP, dumbass.
Lucas Sullivan
Kate Bush Jennifer Charles Adriana Hölszky Allison Cameron Annea Lockwood Annette Schlünz Annie Gosfield Barbara Benary Barbara Strozzi Bianca Maria Meda Carla Bley Carla Kihlstedt Caroline Shaw Charlotte Moorman Chaya Czernowin Chen Yi Clara Schumann Delia Derbyshire Diamanda Galás Dobrinka Tabakova Élizabeth-Claude Jacquet de la Guerre Judith Weir Elena Kats-Chernin Elena Mendoza Eliane Radigue Elis Regina Eliza Brown Ellen Fullman Emilia Amper Eve Beglarian Fanny Mendelssohn Frances-Marie Uitti Gabriela Lena Frank Galina Ustvolskaya Germaine Tailleferre Gloria Coates Grażyna Bacewicz Greetje Bijma Haco Ha-Yang Kim Helena Tulve Hildegard von Bingen Hitomi Shimizu Hiromi Nishida Isabel Mundry Isabella Leonarda Jennifer Higdon Jenny Scheinman Jessica Pavone Jin Hi Kim Joan La Barbara Joanna MacGregor Julia Wolfe Kaffe Matthews Kaija Saariaho Kassia Kate Moore Laurie Spiegel Lera Auerbach Lisa Germano Liza Lim Lois V Vierk Lydia Kavina Lydia Lunch Maja Ratkje Maria Schneider Maria Szymanowska Marian Zazeela Maryanne Amacher Meredith Monk Michiyo Yagi Mieko Miyazaki Miya Masaoka Nina Senk Okkyung Lee Olga Neuwirth Pauline Oliveros Pia Gilbert Rebecca Clarke Rebecca Saunders Rosa Giacinta Badalla Ruth Crawford Seeger Sachiko M Sainkho Namtchylakv Sarah Kirkland Snider Satoko Fujii Sheila Silver Sofia Gubaidulina Sofia Jernberg Susie Ibarra Theresa Wong Vanessa Lann Wendy Carlos Wu Fei Wu Man Yoko Ono Zeena Parkins
Luke Hall
...
Joseph Hill
>no soul sistas
Dominic Turner
Karen O
Austin Powell
Didn't The Buggles had 9/10 songs only?
Leo Gomez
>HAIM >noteworthy oooooook
Lincoln Jones
Why did you add Kate Bush and Jennifer Charles? It's supposed to be a list of important and influential women composers, not second rate pop musicians.
Christopher Miller
Thread/
Also Trish Keenan existed
Jason Carter
the only two artist that have put out anything notable are Bjork and Pixies but men wrote their shit
these """"""""""""""""artists""""""""""""""""""" have not put out any noteworthy music
>Joanna Newsom >Fiona Apple
Isaac Reyes
Aretha Franklin
Tyler Cooper
OP, you moved your goalpost Looks like b8
Owen Hill
The paste function has not released any good music? how fascinating.
Christopher Harris
How about Soap & Skin, Nico and Jarboe?
Ethan Kelly
>The only exception to this rule I can think of is Joanna Newsom and even then that's not much of an outlier to disprove my point that women are incompetent at music. >implying that Grimes, Ellen Allien, St. Vincent, Miss Kittin, don't exist
Hunter Morris
>these """"""""""""""""artists""""""""""""""""""" have not put out any noteworthy music Stupid opinion. Do you really believe this shit? They have not put out any noteworthy music for YOU, not for others with decent taste.
Evan Carter
da motherfuckin sharezone up in this bitch
Parker King
Also Lauryn Hill
Easton Taylor
One of them was a post that just said "ctrl+v", so I think you might want to reconsider spending time in this thread
Luke Price
an album can be good but good=/=noteworthy
noteworthy isn't subjctive
Parker Morris
You have shit taste. The fact you brought up Chvrches as if they have anything to do with this discussion proves that. It's no wonder you think women are incapable of making good music - you haven't listened to any.
Adrian Hernandez
tell my about ctrl+v
James Mitchell
Ramzi Natalie Rose Lebrecht Holly Herndon Fatima Al Qadiri Kucka
Nathaniel Powell
diamanda galas is pretty good
Charles Powell
this isnt an artist
Anthony Parker
Molly Rankin
Matthew Wood
spooky swed womam 1/2
Landon Reyes
...
Adrian Parker
spooky swed womam 2/2
Zachary Roberts
your point?
Wyatt Lewis
...
Evan Lee
whatever you say, go back to whatever website you came from libcuck
Kayden Perez
TELL ME ABOUT CTRL+V
John Cooper
>ctrl+v >ctrl+vangina
Hunter Perry
what's her best album
Tyler Sullivan
...
Julian Perry
what kind of person says sjw in 2016?
Nathan Sanders
an autistic memer who hates the artistic output of ctrl+v
Ethan Fisher
I typed the wrong name, I meant Imogen Heap.
Jaxon Powell
Aqua - Barbie Girl
Caleb Foster
This
Jordan Mitchell
>The only exception to this rule I can think of is Joanna Newsom and even then that's not much of an outlier to disprove my point that women are incompetent at music. OP, you seem kind of imbecile or a troll. What about Grimes who does everything except mixing? Singing, writing lyrics, writing songs, playing synths, samplers & guitar, producing all her music, drawing her own album covers and directing some of her music videos? Beat that!
Christopher Brooks
Grimes is shit though.
Brody Green
Carla Bley >inb4 hurr durr men played with her Still doesn't take anything away from her performances as a pianist.
>Before you SJWs get triggered, I am 100% serious.
>uses buzzwords >im 100% serious guys talk to me
Matthew Parker
!!!!!
Jose Taylor
>lists nothing but rock/pop
no wonder you hate women you only listen to pleb shit
Brayden Gomez
Vektroid >inb4 "female"
Adrian Martinez
Is anyone actually still taking op's post seriously? He's clearly either trolling or straight up retarded.
Samuel Morgan
>What about Grimes who does everything except mixing So I guess we should praise Tinashe too then huh
Oliver Perry
There is none due to it not being true
Colton Price
I like Tinashe.
Nathan Cooper
Yoko is good, rockist fuck
Cooper Williams
sibylle baier kim gordon
Bentley Roberts
Has OP ever looked into the classical world? or is he just a popular music pleb?
Von Bingen, Clara Schuman, Delia Derbyshire, Gubaidulina, Ustvolskaya, Unsuk Chin, Eve De Castro-Robinson, Caroline Shaw. Just to name a few.
Logan Williams
>. almost nobody makes music completely solo besides some electronic musicians maybe.
Isaiah Perry
>almost nobody makes music completely solo Literally every composer ever.
Fucking popular music plebs and their ignorance
Joseph Long
But they don't perform it. Those sheets music worth nothing without someone performing them.
Camden Wright
Are these composers or just performers?
(Except Delia Derbyshire, I know she was.)
Kayden Cox
This will only be solved after big labels start to put mainstream females into non singer roles.
They mostly put them into pop music roles where they are nothing more then "THE MOST REALISTIC HATSUNE MIKU OR MICROSOFT SAM EVER" of the their producer.
Elijah Green
Reminder: Music made to notation is inferior to music made to record. It is missing an entire dimension of musical expression.
Luke Bailey
The music is written solo. It then lasts hundreds of years and whoever wants to play it plays it.
Yes performers are important to composers, and many composers revise based on performances and rehearsals, but a lot of music was simply "written for the drawer" and never performed during a composers lifetime. Shostakovich's chamber music for example.
