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Hello, first time on /prod/, have some questions. What's the difference between a mixing board (like pic related (Behringer Q1202USB Mixer)) and an interface? I have a sm57 and I know it needs a lot of gain, do I go for a X2U adaptor or the thing in the pic will do the job? Thanks for helping the noob.
James Murphy
behringer mixers are shit and definitely not an interface.
made some sample heavy filter house even tho i'm not french
c'est la vie
Joshua Peterson
morning bump courtesy of early sound design sessions
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Behringer Xenyx series are actually fine since they bought out Midas and it's the same factory and people that make them. I can't honestly see Behringer fucking up that factory's part inventory and distributor chain just because "muh china parts."
I remember a rumor from a year or two ago that Behrigner was going to to a Juno revamp. Uli has also stated that making a polysynth was a goal of his. I can't wait to see how this pans out. Plus I probably won't even need to save money to get one.
Joshua Bailey
Cheap polysynth would be very interesting
Mason Bailey
It's going to make a bunch of people mad though. I can already see the community on muff's slagging it because Behrigner >It doesn't even come with a caviar module
Joseph Butler
Why?
Henry Stewart
French here Don't make french touch again
[spoiler]I just don't like the genre do what you like i don't care[/spoiler]
That's the only one I know of. I don't know any synthesizer that's actually that bad. It's a shame because Akai used to do some cool shit back in the day. They came out with a couple of analog polys that had a special 6 voice sampler input, so you could plug in your Akai sampler into your Akai polysynth and give it a 3rd oscillator for each voice that was a sample.
Justin Martinez
most, if not all interfaces, are able to send a digital signal through USB/firewire to the computer. Interfaces are basically a fancy soundcard with some extra niceties. Most, but not all, have pre-amps (the thing that brings a weak acoustic signal from a mic/guitar lo workable levels)
newer mixing boards have the ability to send a digital signal through usb, firewire or spdif or w/e its called, and most are able to do multitrack recording. they also have pre-amps. Older models that lack usb/firewire or older formats do not have this ability. they just allow you to plug your instruments in and play them through a system. and older models that have USB 1.0 can only send a single stereo digital signal to the computer
if you aren't going to be tracking/multitracking recording a lot of synths/instruments/full band, go for an interface. If you want to do multitracking and to plug all your toys at once and do more itb mixing, get a mixing board with USB or Firewire (or thunderbolt if you like to waste your shekels)
William Rodriguez
Most mixers with USB only send a stereo mix, all the summing is done analog.
Real fully digital multitracking mixers cost a Fuckton
Joshua Harris
Nope, newer Alesis Multimix USB (2.0 version) are able to do full mutltrack recording. 1.0 version cannot do this
I own an even older Multimix Firewire model (12 channels) and I can do full multitrack recording, Got it used for $250
Jaxson Morales
holy kek
Joshua Gray
Okay now I know you're just talking out of your ass.
Asher Carter
That's the "USB" series - look up the "USB 2.0" models, 12 and 16 channel varieties and both can send any channels plus the stereo mix to the DAW, giving you 14 discrete channels on the 12 and 18 channels on the 16.
Aaron Evans
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Luis Russell
see
and my ancient Firewire 12 ch does multitrack as well
Camden Gonzalez
Yeah I might have got confussed with the 12 having a USB 2.0 option - might just be an 8 channel and 16 for those with the 12 having the same features with a FW interface.
Cameron Jones
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Leo Price
Oh so you mean that mixer that you can't buy anywhere and many people seem to have troubles with.
Mason Nguyen
That wasn't the point of my post. Reliability is a separate argument.
Michael Brown
Well if you're going to argue semantics, I said most mixers, not all.
And I mostly meant most mixers one can actually find and use.
Eli Phillips
There is another one with the Tom Cat that is a kirby edit. lemme see if I can find it.
Levi Jenkins
Noob question: I'm supposed to keep the reverb send channel 100% wet, right?
Cameron Robinson
>damage control
Adrian Rodriguez
I was replying to the post where the person who argued that Alesis made USB 2.0 mixers with multi-track recording was dismissed as "talking out of your ass." - the person making the dismissal was wrong and that's all there is to it, no semantic analysis needed.
Cooper Baker
>I have to have the last word in >even though his point was that cheap multitrack mixers are largely unavailable hasn't been refuted
Isaac Brooks
See
Camden Murphy
No. Have the tracks sending 100% to the reverb return track, then adjust the amount of reverb dry/wet on the return track.
Jose Campbell
this is really good, id play that out
Austin Ross
not him, but c'mon nigga, multimix USB 2.0/firewire are widely available used
theyre not that hard to find
Henry Garcia
why would you give up the purpose of a send knob?
yes
Owen Cruz
My mates doing audio production at uni and was explaining how you achieve a much cleaner sound by sending 100% of a sound to an effect, the dialing back on the dry/wet after. Because that way what you're reverbing is the total sound, not just a portion of it.
Adrian Turner
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Ryan Collins
Is this for blend or size or both? Do you use two return channels for blend and size or do you process both in one return channel?
Alexander Cooper
Only the 1.0 models are available in retail. (What's up with that?) Maybe you can find a used one on eBay.
I was able to find one on Amazon for $1200, but that falls under the reduculously expensive category
Caleb Cooper
It is (or was, in hardware-only days) how it's traditionally done and the reason is quite simple - with hardware if you have the reverb unit set to 50/50 mix dry/wet it means that some of the signal that originally only existed on the channel strip itself is now also being routed through a send and back to the return via the reverb, and if you're lucky all it will do when recombined with the channel's signal is increase its level.
If you have a shitty hardware design somewhere in the chain there will also be phase shift added to the returned portion of the dry signal and that will cause comb filtering.
Jason Nguyen
don't listen to this newb taking advice from another newb in uni
Adam Taylor
So one return for blend and one return for size, both 100% wet, and feeding them to different tracks at necessary amounts? Sorry to keep going on about this, just wanna make sure I'm not muddling a basic mix element.
Jordan Gomez
just fyi, some FX units recommend to run the AUX send from the mixer to the unit, and then plug the outputs of the unit to 2 channels (panned full Left and Right) to avoid any potential problems with shitty mixing boards
Carson Martin
explain how that would be wrong. explain why anyone should think you're right.
Bentley Green
Using two returns implies that you'd be using two devices, with two sends feeding signal to them, although you could route the device to more than one return if you wanted to apply EQ to a portion of it and balance it against the un-EQed return.
In a straightforward setup though a single device gets fed by a single send, and the effect comes back via a single return.
