Tfw what started as an anti-capitalist counter-culture movement is now being appropriated by the same type of companies...

>tfw what started as an anti-capitalist counter-culture movement is now being appropriated by the same type of companies that the movement was critical of

its like punk all over again

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Wasn't vaporwave supposed to be dead in 2013? I want to stop hearing about it.

started as a niche meme

now its a common meme

Would it have gone any other way, user?

>anti-capitalist
no

There's absolutely nothing wrong with capitalism.

You are a retard.

Vapourwave's been pretty much mainstream for a good two or three years now. It's basically a meme now anyway.

it was in no way anti-capitalist
if i got it right vaporwave was all about the beautiful and cool aspects of capitalism

except everything

There's plenty wrong with capitalism, but it's still the most ideal system we have.
If you'd rather live under Communism then move to Cuba or wherever.

Music for that feel

m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZGhv3QKXkI

what right does this music recommendation service have to recommend people listen to a genre of music which I have arbitrarily decided should be kept a secret? if they do that, how will I feel intellectually superior to those who haven't listened that music?

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>if you want to live under communism
>go to cuba [a nation where economic castes exist]

you do not know what communism is, you are conflating specific forms of state socialism with communism

I'm not against vaporwave going mainstream, I just hate that it's now being used in a way that goes against its original message

That last bit was a joke

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>most ideal system we have
>like 100 people have almost all the money in the entire world
OK Kid

>vaporwave was a anit-capitalist movement

Yeah, its kinda dumb and ironic but that's happened with almost every anti-capitalist movement in history. It's human nature and doesn't necessarily devalue its ideals.

Wrong. Vaporwave is pop-art. A jab at commercialism once again but for the computer age.

>100 people have almost all the money in the world

so basically what you;re saying is that you have no idea how much money the richest 100 people have nor how much money total is in circulation?

you can do the rest of the work to find out why that's fucking stupid what you said there, here are some useful links

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World's_Billionaires
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply
investopedia.com/terms/m/m0.asp

>because its better to live under a regime that murderers your entire family or sends you to a gulag

adults here are trying to talk mmmkay?

this

please dont respond to him anymore

You mean

it unironically is tho
don't upset them and you have nothing to worry about

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T. Bernie

Communism ≠ Stalinism

Even so, name me one Communist government, or even one completely Socialist government (not Social Democratic) that is more successful than Capitalist governments.

>all these classcucks

>It's basically a meme now anyway.
>basically
>now

Nice moving the goalposts faggot.

lol vaporwave was never anti-capitalist, its always been a lazy meme of nostalgia that cannot decide if its the 1980s or the 1990s, it also couldnt decide if it was about computers, malls/consumerism, or even just being fake lost sounds of the past warped or new dance music with 80s flair

vaprowave has no coherency, not even its imagery is consistent to itself, its all based on the same shit new retro wave does, only sometimes with windows 95 and statues

VAPORWAVE AIN'T DEAD BBY

why music genre needs "coherency" or "consistency"?

There's never been a Communist government....ever

This happens to every subculture user.
Companies repurpose culture into commodity so they can sell it back to the subculture they stole it from and those onlookers who think it's still imbued with some subversive power. Culture has to manifest through official channels, be it materials bought by punkers or social media platforms for vaporwave, and through that intersection the parent culture can control the subculture.

Until the subculture seizes the means of production, this will continue to happen.

This.
It still sounds nice tho.

any one that wants to actually exist outside of facebook meme groups and shitposting

I'm glad vaporwave is dead, I'm tired of it, it sucks.

define succesful

t. living memes

never heard of any of those

just admit communism kills

vaporwave's 'philosophy' was a buncha post-modern shit ripped straight from baudrillard. vaporwave itself is not anti-capitalist or pro-capitalist, it is simply a transparency which sustains both ironic (anti-capitalist) and post-ironic (techno-capitalist) layers of interpretation, thus giving us ample evidence to categorise the genre as a 'pure meme'

>adults
>mmmkay?
And obviously you don't fit that demographic

"Your new favorite summer music genre"

ITS HAPPENNING FINALLY !!!! YYYYUhhhhoooo!!!!!!!!

\o/


oooOoOOOOOOpppps....

gq.com/story/mtv-miley-cyrus-vma-vaporwave-seapunk

#ItNeverHappenned

dank

Max stirner has ruined /lit/
you have no clue what you're talking about.

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tfw its summer and Sup Forumstards think this is

a. the first time vaporwave has "gone mainstream"

b. vaporwave doesnt already have the worst fanbase ever

c. anyone cares

d. anything will change

The USSR was.

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not an argument

kill yourselves holy shit lmao

go to bed stefan

omg it's like every music genre ever.

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cable street

THERE IS NO FUCKING MESSAGE ITS JUST SOUL AND AMBIENT FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE DRIVE AND HOTLINE MIAMI

theres a difference between the ideal states of capitalism and communism, and CORRUPTION. idiots.

You're right, it's not an argument. It's a refutation. I still win.

>dude capitalism is evil all hail Che Guevara
I wish I could strangle these idiots

youtube.com/watch?v=Vc6PK7aqTO0

>PragerU

Consider suicide.

Honestly, a corrupt Capitalist system is better than a corrupt Communist system, and being as most governments end up with a certain level of corruption I'd rather live under Capitalism

dissidents in the soviet union were hypocrites for eating kolkhoz food

god damn how many more layers of irony do I need to ham up before you realise you're being memed

is capitalism without consumerism possible

>didn't even watch the video

no
>implying consumerism is bad

Theoretically yes. In practise it's very difficult if not impossible though.

I don't believe that consumerist capitalism is necessarily a bad thing though, only when it comes about as an infringement on free-market systems by the government.

I've watched it before and cringed. That guy has a video named "Why is Modern Art So Bad" for God's sake.

agreed
>implying consumerism is good

>muh gubberment
kek

youtube.com/watch?v=bPvHoxlY3UY

The video is right though you cuck

Reminder Scaruffi is an anti-consumerist.

slideshare.net/scaruffi/how-to-kill-yourself-your-country-and-your-planet-in-a-few-easy-stepsand-feel-good-about-it

>Objective morality
>Real

Now the we (or at least the developed world) have gotten to where we are today thanks to capitalism, we should move towards a more communist society to try and fix the inequalities that are necessary byproducts of capitalism desu senpai

The problem is that the people who have historically been the major beneficiaries of capitalism stand the most to loose (even if it's comparatively not much). So of course they are going to refuse to believe or even acknowledge that anything BUT capitalism would work because their total belief in the ideology of capitalism makes up their entire view and understanding of society, culture, the world etc., because that belief is how they got to be at the top at this moment in time, and giving that up would go against everything about the life they are living.

This. Socialism is the end goal of capitalism.

>anti-capitalist counter-culture movement
>not a derivative meme from seapunk which was a derivative meme from witch house which was a derivative meme from chillwave whic was a derivative meme from bloghouse

oh boy

When's this thread getting deleted?

>doesn't provide sources or videos to show how the video is 'true'
>KEK KEK KEK KEK
Sup Forums at it's finest

also see

There is the problem of the need for capitalism to emerge as a result of a world crisis like a natural disaster or major war.

Now there's no way to outright prevent natural disasters through a socialist society. Though the potential damage done COULD be lessened through green economic policies and fast/effective aid policies.

Major world wars would probably be totally eliminated by the nature of a socialist society. There would be lesser conflicts between developing societies still using capitalism but nothing cataclysmic thats not taking into account nuclear weapons though.

Now developing societies that aren't ready to transition to socialism should definitely be capitalist so they can build themselves up to the point where a socialist society is realistically feasible. And thats okay.

The world doesn't NEED to be on the same page right now, but that doesn't necessarily mean we all won't end up in the same place at the end of the book. At that point we can close it and apply what we learned from our history in our individual everyday lives.

Now that Vaporwave is finally and permanently dead we can all agree that Saint Pepsi was the best artist to come out of the genre.

no, he's bland and created that shitty pol meme

>take obscure 80's japanese funk
>run it through a filter & put vengeance drums over it's beats
>best
"no"

Agreed.
His new stuff under Skylar spence or w/e if awful though.

Just proves vaporwave took little/no skill desu

>implying that isn't every vaporwave artist

vaporwave artists slow down their tracks in addition to applying filters, future funk artists can't be arsed to even do that.

>this whole tread
Vaporwave is about as anti-capitalist as Foucault; that is, it's vaguely critical but ultimately pointless and can be easily appropriated by capitalism for profit. Like those "This is what a feminist looks like" shirts made in sweatshops or Lenin-themed soda.

SHAKIRA SHAKIRA

Vaguely related to Vaporwave, but why are 80s songs so ethereal and comfy-sounding and perfect for driving along the sunset? Other decades' music, while good, generally don't have this kind of sound.

It's like Bernie Sanders all over again

How can they get away with this if an overwhelming majority of it consists of uncleared samples?

Man, I love this this about purely music on a board that's dedicated for music.

What really bugs me about this is that imo vaporwave is very bad music to play in social situations as it relies so heavily on personal nostalgia. And summer music? What?

This post is correct. Ignore all colon crisped commoners.

Foucault wasn't a liberal, he just didn't froth at the mouth whenever liberalism was mentioned like less intelligent leftists are trained to do.

Different approach to music production and mixing. Modern music is too sterile and lacks the warmth of 80's music.