What songs best describe the trans experience?

What songs best describe the trans experience?

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joke's on her, i don't fuck anyone

>thinking these are at all comparable
leftists everybody

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Yeah "MTF trans" people are loony guys who cut their dicks off lmfao.

If you want a real answer, probably something like transgender dysphoria blues or maybe something from that bird album by antony and the johnsons. GLOSS doesn't really describe the experience as it does angry political statements. I found a folk punk artist on bandcamp once who had some songs that were pretty spot on in terms of describing the experince. Musically they were just okay, and I can't remember what the artist was called.

That one against me album.

I'm a leftist and I disagree with the post in OP's pic

>all liberals are leftists
>all liberals agree with OP's picture
>all leftists agree with OP's picture

holy shit just fuck off to Sup Forums and choke on your free speech you autistic reddit retard

this desu

not at all actually, transgenderism is about having a disconnect between your gender and your sex and then transitioning to fix it. has nothing to do with being "loony". though the ones who call themselves genderqueer, yeah those ones can fuck off and stop making transgenders look like a joke

>transgenderism is about having a disconnect between your gender and your sex
Yup, that's loony alright

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No matter how much surgery and hrt you have you'll still be male or female. You can call yourself the opposite all you like but it doesn't make it true.

I have no problem with gay people but I struggle to accept transgenderism. I don't believe butchering your body and jumping on replacement hormones is the answer either.

It's still in such early stages of research and yet people are just easily able to fuck around with hormones and change shit in their body that SHOULD NOT be changed.

>>Sup Forums

>caring about what society dictates as "sane" or not

This is where transgendered people fail

spooked

you dropped this
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I don't use Sup Forums at all. Just because someone said something you disliked doesn't mean you have to start shit posting.

sex is a spectrum. human beings are not sexually dimorphic. transition is the only treatment that works. neo vaginas are made of the same tissue as any other vagina. we've been doing research since the 30s.

>muh board deflection

don't pussy out and leave it at gender. human sexuality and race are also on a subjective spectrum. it's just nonsense so people can identify with it and feel like they belong in a group

Why is everybody on this thread talking about stuff they have no understanding of other than random stuff they've seen in mass media? Stick to what you know, fuckin music nerds

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accurate description

so, is everyone with any mental problem "loony", even people with anxiety or ADHD?

youll still have the same chromosomes but its only an opinion that your gender remains the same. some people believe sex=gender and some people dont. neither are objectively true

>we've been doing research since the 30s
Even so, the technology available back then, the limited knowledge back then mean nothing compared to what we have today. Even the most advanced fields of research are ever changing.

I still stand by it. It doesn't make me a "bigot". Sex isn't a spectrum. You're either male or female. People just want to be part of something "bigger". It's literally the same as any kind of community or group.

Whether it be fucking genders, or a baseball fantasy league. People just want to fit in somewhere. Some are just more extreme than others.

i would watch this movie

i cant even begin to grasp how fucking stupid what you just said was
this has to be you fishing for (You)s

>some people believe sex=gender and some people dont. neither are objectively true

The latter generally being less than sane individuals. I mean that in a serious way. I'm not just being a shit poster. Most of these people who identify as all sorts of different genders generally have a few screws loose.

>if you believe sex doesn't objectively equal gender you personally identify as numerous things

My point was it's not new research.

Sex is a spectrum. Some transgender people do fit into what we would think of as binary "male" or "female" sexes, but may do not. Sex is a bunch of disparate qualities lumped together that don't always match up. Hormones, genes, presence of an SR-Y gene, apearance of external genitalia are all factors.

transgenderism isnt really about identifying as something, thats what the tumblrfags believe. its actually about living your life as the gender that feels right to you, not saying you "identify" as X gender.

Everybody on this board claims to be so deep and contrarian yet never shows any interest in questioning social constructs like gender. You've all been brainwashed fucking plebs

>gender
>social construct

and btw, im against the trendy gender shit like genderqueer because like i said, it makes actual transgenders look bad

I thought gender was the spectrum? Since when is sex a spectrum? Even most tumblrfags will admit that sex is biological but counter it with gender being a spectrum.

Are you transgender?

The irony in all this is I'm a sexual deviant and watch shemale porn all the time. I still think it's fucked up though.

>inb4 "yewwwwww FUHHHHHHCK LIKE A REEEEEEESSSSHOAAAAAAAAARSE"

Idk what they were talking about but there are more than 2 biological sexes

They're both a spetrum. Seperating them wasn't the wisest thing for activists to do lol. gender is more like an internal experience, sex is a collection of traits that usually line up, but not nearly as often as you think. Most tumblr users aren't very knowledgeable about science or sociology, usually because they're 14.

How is gender not a social construct

Unless you're a hermaphrodite, no there isn't.

>penis and two testicles = male
>vagina = female
>hermaphrodite = a bit of both

Why does everybody automatically associate being transgender, or the idea that there are more than 2 genders with Tumblr? The idea has been around forever

i have sex dysphoria but i dont know if id call myself transgender

hows that make you a sexual deviant? liking trannies is pretty common, though most men who watch that kind of porn keep it secret because theyre afraid of seeming like theyre gay

I mean it is quite an alternative fetish. I've still never fucked one though. Too scared.

i sincerely don't understand how people get so upset over trans issues

i mean, at the end of the day, it doesn't affect you at all unless you're trans. the worst that happens to you if you're not is that you decide not to fuck somebody because of it, which is totally ok imo

if anybody wants to explain their point of view to me go ahead, not trying to be condescending, i just don't get it

Aka intersex, aka there's more than 2 sexes, you said it yourself, buddy

Yeah, different cultures have different ideas of gender. Native American 2 spirit people, Indian Hijra (sp?), etc. The idea that there are only 2 absolute genders is a modern western european invention.

Yes but other than that, the obvious two are male and female. hermaphroditism is very rare.

it's biological my dear

explain how it isnt. humans created the idea that penis=male, vagina=female and the idea that your gender is set in stone and something you cannot change. i mean, i guess if youre one of those people that equate sex and gender, you are probably thinking that when people say "gender is a social construct" that they mean "having a penis/vagina is a social construct", but thats obviously not at all what the phrase "gender is a social construct" means.

Then there are 3 genders. Male, female, and hemaphrodite.

Case closed

I kinda feel the same way. But that's why I was personally questioning whether I'm gender fluid. Idk how the existence of other genders would make transgender people look bad

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>not including that tool gavin mcinnes
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It's important to clarify that intersex isn't just a third sex, it's an entire range of sexes. and the lines get blurred even further when deciding what counts as intersex. Some people feel that PCOS counts, others say it doesn't, others still say it depends on how the PCOS manifests.

Those are sexes. Gender means something different

>salty sjw detected

intersex conditions are actually quite common, and don't necessarily mean there is ambiguous genitalia. It could be purely hormonal.

>the idea that your gender is set in stone and something you cannot change
That's true though. If you're biologically a female, but identify as a "man", you're still by all accounts a female. Unless you tell every single fucking person you know, most people are going to refer to you as a woman, female, lady, girl etc. You can't just chop and change genders either.

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Kind of? Gender and Sex have a lot of overlap, and it was kind of foolish for activists to try and separate them t b h.

its not really the existence of non male/female genders that makes transgenders look bad, its the fact that its now a trend and every other 13-16 year old thinks theyre transgender because they dress like a girl some days and a boy other days.

Your genitals are biological. Your hormones are biological. The rest is a made up thing

yeh same

>hormonal
Of course, but in saying that, if there are no genitalia anomalies than you'll still be either female or male. Regardless of your hormone imbalance.

Because it transcends societies, anyone that has studied the different peoples' of the world would know this

I honestly don't see how this is a bad thing? Kids exploring their gender is totally cool. And do you know how hard it is to actually get on hormones? You can't just walk up to the counter at the drug store and buy them lol. Most people who are legitimately transgender and not just into a different gender presentation know from a young age. And there's probably more trans people than previously thought.

For most people yes. But for everyone they don't correspond, and people have to realize that those people exist

Nope. Sex and gender are the exact same thing

Deal with it, Tumblrcuck

this is kinda pointless because we obviously have differing opinions. i personally believe that your genitals have nothing to do with your gender, you do.

There are 2 sexes, hermaphrodite is intersex

There are 5 known genders, three of the additional ones coming from different cultures to describe the role this person takes in their society. This is because gender doesn't represent whether you were born with a penis or vagina, but the cultural ROLE they have.

Have none of you ever taken an Anthro class?

How do I find a transgender MTF to have sex with? I've fantasised about it for a long time now but all I can find is escorts. I want someone who really wants to fuck. Not just because I paid them money.

No, you wouldn't. That what I'm saying. Sex is a collection of different factors including genes, hormones, and genitalia. If a person has a vagina and estrogen, but xy chromosomes are they male or female? If a person has a small penis, XY chromosomes, and testosterone sensitivity are they female or male?

Yeah, it's inaccurate because transwomen were never men.

Anyone who has studied people of the world would know that in many cultures there are genders other than man or woman and that gender roles often differ from culture to culture

You'll probably have to pay. Most trans women don't like being someone's fetish. They also don't like being called MTF.

>young self righteous memeposter detected

>i personally believe that your genitals have nothing to do with your gender, you do
You're wrong though.

I understand where you're coming from, but idk if I really believe that anymore. Even when we say the sex and gender of a trans person don't correspond, we're gendering the sex.

you cant deny that theres a large amount of people who claim to be transgender to look special, though. i dont have any problem with people experimenting with how they dress or look for example, just the ones who trivialize something serious. ive showered maybe 20 times this year because seeing this body makes me dissociate hard and freak out. its not fun at all

>They also don't like being called MTF.
Who gives a shit? I'm not talking to one in real life right now. Different contexts.
>Most trans women don't like being someone's fetish
Do you speak for all trans people that ever existed?

explain how other than "this is just how i feel"

>ive showered maybe 20 times this year because seeing this body makes me dissociate hard and freak out. its not fun at all
Just know that it's all in your head. I know that might sound absolutely stupid as fuck to you, but you shouldn't disregard your health and hygiene because of how you feel.

>who gives a shit?

Geeze, I was just letting you know. If you want someone to have sex with you, calling her things she doesn't like to be called is a bad strategy.

>Do you speak for all trans people?

No, All I was saying is that all of the trans women I've met weren't into that. They even have a name for it. They call those people "chasers".

I get where you're coming from but desu I doubt that many kids are gonna say they're Trans to seem special. At least from my perspective, it would really just open them up to a lot of bullying/people criticizing them for making it up

>chasers
Must be a lot of chasers out there. You know how popular the trans fetish is?

I'm the one you responded to. No, there aren't people who claim to be trans to look special. Coming out as trans is still really dangerous and gets people kicked out of their homes. Maybe they have weird words for pronouns, or they have strange ideas about gender, but like, they're literally children. All kids have dumb ideas, and don't refelct on adults.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. HRT really does help with that.

Hahaha yeah, there are tons. It's a realllly popular fetish

Wish I could fuck one tbqh. Wish I could fuck anyone really. Sex deprived as fuck. No tinder/facebook so I'm dead in the water there.

>Just know that it's all in your head.
yeah, i know. thats kinda the problem, because i cant just fix my brain and make it NOT do this. it doesnt sound stupid, i get where youre coming from but i value my sanity more than my hygiene

Specify how "often".

We can't all be privileged white males and attend university to take Anthro classes.

Okay, well good luck. I have depression, if that's ANY kind of consolation. I wish I could just turn it off, but I can't.

yeah, i guess youre right. kids have always done/said dumb things and they just express it in different ways. thanks though

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thanks man, i have depression too

honestly i wish you the best. I transitioned a few years ago and it wasthe best decision I've ever made by far.