/daily/ - "more like your taste's bad" edition

It's nearly halfway through summer, have you done anything worthwhile?

Listen to your library, show off your backlog, babble about new music, tell us what you've been listening to today and what you will listen to in the following month, do tourneys (unless if you're Jangle, in which case they will crash and burn), post memes, don't talk about music, argue about opinions, fight with other generals, just let the good times flow.

neverendingchartrendering.org/
>backup topsters when topsters inevitably shits the bed

topsters.net/
>working? kind of. probably not

plug.dj/sdc-room-3-the-sequel
>for when you want to say dumb things but don't want them to be found in the archive

synctube.org/r/Some_dumb_synctube_channel
>plug, but with emotes instead of avatars that crawled out of uncanny valley, aka the inferior plug (but the working one)

dailymu-sic.weebly.com/
>site with templates, OP covers, archive, & random stuff

Ask about our alleged Skype group. Nobody will tell you anything, but it's fun to try.

Most importantly, be sexy.

Previously, on /daily/:

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soundcloud.com/feintdnb/feint-sky-dance-1
soundcloud.com/ramesesb/rameses-b-ft-veela-mountains
soundcloud.com/sex-whales/grandpa-goes-around
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

First for Stockhausen is shite

now that's an old meme

solid april 2015 meme

curren$y, doc brown, aqam, shaq/kerr, and mortimer don't even really post here anymore. that's half the pic.

Fourth for Stockhausen is okay.

uhh yeah about that kid....

Shut up, you don't exist

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Nice

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dayum

lol

Reinbert de Leeuw performing Erik Satie - Gnossiennes; Gymnopédies; Ogives; Trois sarabandes; Petite ouverture à danser (1995)
>impressionism

This is pretty much amazing, y'all were right that I'd really like it. The pieces themselves are of course wonderful, the way that each different variation on a theme is ever so slightly different enough to be enjoyed as its own individual work yet is so similar to the other variations of the same theme is incredible to listen to, especially with how the pieces are sequenced here. The performance is great as well, de Leeuw knows just how long to stay on a note, and the slow, lethargic nature of his performance adds a lot to the compositions. Gets the tiniest bit dry after an hour, but this is just wonderful.

3.5+

Sugar Babe - Songs (1975)
>city pop

Too much sterile, boring filler for me to enjoy as a full album. City pop is, by its very nature, a very sterile and overly produced genre, and while I do love that at times, this is just too fucking much for me, there's not a single bit of rawness or real emotion here, save for the last track which is actually pretty great. The songwriting isn't all too great either, there's nothing here to really grasp onto, everything just goes in one ear, out the other. I do have to commend the really upbeat, happy atmosphere that this has, even if it's really tiring by the end. Definitely the best part of this otherwise super underwhelming album.

2.0

sicc

>curren$y, doc brown, aqam, shaq/kerr, and mortimer don't even really post here anymore
I miss them
kerr got me in to jessica pratt

impressive

boy is my face red...

i do have to say i miss you as a regular, your white noise, drone, ambient chart is one of my favorite things ever posted to this site.

goddamn

it's been hard enough for me and the 4 people i'm doing the RYM top 100 with to get through it, did you think you'd get 14 people to listen to 14 albums each in a reasonable amount of time?

i would like to actually finish this though

how is it that the best slint song is a fucking neil young cover
youtube.com/watch?v=6X4alklR5q0

hecc it's the devil

built to spill do cortez the killer really well too
youtube.com/watch?v=TNOvqFISxIc

>it's been hard enough for me and the 4 people i'm doing the RYM top 100 with to get through it, did you think you'd get 14 people to listen to 14 albums each in a reasonable amount of time?
ya know, maybe i should come back to that once i finish my tourney...

Music for the Classical Oud and Matana Roberts when?

take yer time, it'll probably take me a fucking year to finish the 15 or so albums i have left

also, mind if i change all the "tripfriend OTS" signatures to "ruggles" on the list?

Ok /daily/ i'm sick and Tired of being uncultured.
What are some good books about
>Economics
>Law
>Poetry
>Works fiction
>Politics
>Philosophy
Please no meme recs
Think of them

next up, probably.

pls do

>poetry
there's no great starting place, but if you want an overview try to find a copy of bloom's book on western poetry

otherwise just start with shakespeare

>Philosophy
start with Plato and Aristotle
look on /lit/ wiki for specific recs

nostalgic meme

we thought you was ded

congratulations

>Blaze Foley - Sittin' by the Road (2010)
This was nice - the home recording set up helped give this a more authentic feel. Lot's of good sing-along lyrics like "Let Me Ride in Your Big Cadillac". Very enjoyable. 7/10

>Jack Costanzo - Latin Fever (1958)
This must have been pretty adventurous for a lot of people in 1958. The cover obviously grabs your attention along with the suggestive title. Looking back now it feels a little racist/sexist. The music is pretty good, with lots of great percussion. There are a variety of styles of Latin jazz here, and overall it is pretty fun. 7/10

My ratings: out of 10, but I usually only use 6, 7, 8 - I'll only give something different if it really invokes a strong reaction either way.

>Economics
>Law
>Politics
None.

>Works fiction
I think most people on /daily/ like post modern lit memes like Pynchon and David Foster Wallace. I don't know shit about literature but I'm reading 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami and I think I'm gonna start getting into more of his stuff.

>Economics
Thomas Piketty - Capital in the Twenty-First Century

>Poetry
Iliad & Odyssey, Aenid

>Philosophy
Agree with Ruggles, start with the Greeks and then move on to newer stuff, esp. Hume, Kant, Wittgenstein, etc

These topics are so broad you might want to look for introductions to stuff that interests you - check out the Very Short Introduction series, which are usually really good and easy to read

I think you'd like Douglas Coupland's Shampoo Planet or Microserfs. Really you can't go wrong with anything Coupland.

yo d00ds, i made another plug.dj clone, would be sick if y'all tried it too:

juicebox.dj/room/test

gnite daily

i started changing them i'll finish it tmrw

i'm taking these recs too, I've gotta start reading more.

>start with Plato and Aristotle
9/10 times the "start with the Greeks" attitude will lead one to study the history of philosophy, not philosophy itself. They're a great starting point but what you read is less important than how you read, that should always be stressed when helping someone start out with philosophy. If one's not interested in any particular work chances are they won't get anything meaningful out of it and reading it will just be a waste of time. I'm of the opinion that people should be encouraged to pick whatever starting point that appeals to them and move backwards from that to le Greeks, that way one is guaranteed to be invested from the beginning and the cited references in every work will organically pique one's interest and fill in the blanks left by initially skipping the classics.

Though I am a pseudo-intellectual tool who's read only a handful philosophy books so far, all of them obscurantist trash, so idk.

>i started changing them i'll finish it tmrw
thanks m8

that's a good point, but you also need a fair understanding of the history of philosophy just based on how often concepts require an understanding of the views on the subject matter at the time

but i am also a big pseud/ beginner

Thanks a lot man! Why do you think i might like them?
I think everyone has read The Illiad. The Odyssey is in my backlog actually. Will also check that Very Short stuff. But what i look in the economy books is a deeper understanding on how the marketing works and stuff, then branch out into some deeper more specialized books
What are you talking about economic books are fun. And i want to understand those subject betters but in a more dynamic way than reading multiple constitutions
Will absolutely do man thanks

Is it worth mentioning that i liked The Caves of Steel a lot? And if someone knows about interesting psychology stuff then please hmu

I think this makes sense if you're interested in a specific sub-field of philosophy, like philosophy of science, although in that case you really should read Popper & Kuhn first because a lot of everything else in the field will assume the reader already knows those works - but you don't necessary have to start with the Greeks there.

holy Shit

i might as well ask. what's the Skype group about?

hey can you guys do me a massive favor and keep your mutts on tighter leashes

thanks

Only if you post some rare Katies

i dont think that's one of us
shitty false flags isnt really the kind of shitposting we excel in around here

post some more cats and we will

here's her around xmas 2015

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Hm red pilled acid savior is really good, also this song is the best future bass song I've heard in a while: soundcloud.com/movingcastle/virtual-riot-flutter-feat-madi

In the world of bass music Feint is a classic that I've listened to a lot also:
soundcloud.com/feintdnb/feint-sky-dance-1
And B Ramses: soundcloud.com/ramesesb/rameses-b-ft-veela-mountains

I've honestly just been obsessed with both of these.
This is hella fun also, the episode of Rick and Morty where Rick sells that gun to the insect assassin guy was given a dubstep remix: soundcloud.com/sex-whales/grandpa-goes-around

>what's the Skype group about?
Ideally, musical collaboration. In practice, primarily boring conversation t b h

The plug.dj room is better for conversation in my experience

i would do plug.dj if my computer didn't shit itself constantly using it
is there a deadline for that shared chart thing? probably not gonna be able to listen to much saturday

Ruggles
Gausshauss

Because a good portion of those novels deal with the topics you're looking for
Silly shamepai

Lol I basically said that because books about politics and economics are almost always pretty biased in some way or another. I'm sure there's some good stuff around, I just haven't really found any.

A basic understanding of circumstantial details like this is necessary but it's nothing a little secondary reading can't help you with. These books comment on the ideas they cite after all, that should give you some level of understanding of the concept as it applies to what you're reading which is the only thing you should try to understand while reading it. The rest can be extracted from commentaries you can easily find online or better yet, other books.

When philosophers make their case well you'll have all the information you need in their writing and references. Not to the point that you'll understand the entire field they worked in in their totality (reading the foundations of a field of philosophy won't help you with this either) but the specific work you're reading shouldn't be too hard to grasp. Again, this comes down to a difference between philosophy and the history of philosophy. Understanding ideas and understanding how they came about are not mutually inclusive. The latter helps a lot with the former, but it's not necessary.

i can't disagree with you there

>politics
Utopian texts are nice, read The Republic by Plato, Utopia by Moore then The Communist Mannifesto bonus because they're philosophies as well
then for funsies read 1984
Read The Prince because it's great
>Poetry
only try to read poetry in a language that you can read, trying to do it with a translation is like wiping your ass with your foot
(obv. this doesn't apply to older texts like Odyssey and The Inferno, which you should read)
Aside from that Ginsberg - Howl and Other Poems, Alfred Lord Tennyson - The Idylls of the King, T.S Eliot - Wasteland and other Works
>works of fiction
3 fave books are
>White Noise - Don DeLillo
>Bros Karamazov - Dostoevsky (or notes from underground because /r9k/)
>Frankenstein - Mary Shelley

>Philosophy
start with Existentialism, desu you could probably watch a couple of Youtube videos and get the long and short of it

>Somedumbcunt
>Is actually the smartest cunt

What did he mean by this?

start with the greeks )))))

with the law maybe with romans, their law is still a base of the contemporary

Samefag.

>The Prince
Satire? Cautionary Text? Earnest?
you decide

>Works fiction
Pynchon- The Crying of Lot 49
Camus- The Stranger
Faulkner- As I Lay Dying
Sophocles- Three Theban Plays

And I'll ask for some film recs, I have never been much into film, what would you recommend? I always prefered books and music, and every time when I'm watching a film I feel that I would prefer reading or listening to music.

And does anyone know books about painting, paintings and painters? Wanted to get into that as well.

Wes Anderson, Tarkovsky, Jim Jarmusch, the list goes on

>Read poetry in languages you can read
So spanish and english, and maybe my below basic german. I already read 1984
Yeah but what about law? And books about stock market and biographies, or about inspiring politics or maybe political schemes or systems can'tbe that biased. Besides, if i read many i can compare many different views

Alright, starting the shared chart.

2NE1 - 2nd Mini Album

Sadly, I did not like this. I'm not a fan of the electropop sound they decided to go with for the dance tracks and of course like other K-Pop releases they had to include the obligatory ballad track. Sometimes I'm okay with the obligatory ballad track if the rest of the release is good but this EP just felt bland and kinda trashy. 1/5.

Btw, had to resize the file cause it somehow reached 5 MB. Hope it's not much of a problem.

Kanzler
natkingcole
Shamepai
Vinter
good friend rodriguez

He's p much the Sans of /daily/

okay, so after that bit of shitposting, now it's time for an honest rec.
For Economics, I'm not big into it, and the only thing that is a bit familiar is Das Kapital.
For Law, read about Roman law? I'm not knowledgeable on this subject.

For poetry, Bloom's got a book with collection of
English poetry, I don't really know a lot of English poetry, need to get in to it as well. But anyway, start with the Bible, Psalmes, Song of Songs, and anyway you need some Biblical knowledge for poetry so read it too. It's really important text in Western tradition anyway. Read the Greeks, Iliad and Odyssey, Sapho, read the Romans, Horatio (I'm not sure how do you guys call him in English but you know who I mean, right). After that some Shakespear I guess, Keats, Whitman, Yeats, Blake, Pope, Byron, O'Hara, I don't really know a lot of English language poets, other than O'Hara I haven't started them yet. Start learning French if you're interested in their poetry as poetry isn't really good when translated.

Fiction: everyone will give you American writers so I'll give some others, László
Krasznahorkai is great Hungarian writer, I really liked War and War. Oblomov by Goncharov was good too. Bohumil is one of my favourite writers, and one really essential book, The Plague by Camus.

For politics, Communist Manifesto, The Republic by Platon, and text about what you're interested.

For Philosophy start with Pre-Socratics or with Plato. If you're interested in philosophy as whole, go chronologically with the most important philosophers. If you're interested in one philoshoper, find what's required to read before him.

pig sleep

Thanks, I'll try this one, and for Tarkovsky I've already Stalker downloaded.

>spanish
Neruda is apparently good
if you've read 1984, try Brave New World, re-read it anyway once you have the utopian context, adds something to the text
if you want to be uber cultured you could finish War and Peace, nobody does that and it's really not that difficult

Good Morning /daily/!

BoJack is great so far! I'm gonna go visit the local music store and then maybe walk around some before finishing the season.

There is an organ performance at the local St.Etienne cathedral tonight, might go see that as well. Anyone know anything cool to visit in Auxerre?

There's Les Caves Bailly Lapierre if you're into that sort of thing.

looks awesome, but a little bit too far. I don't have a car here. Well, maybe I can take a cab.

also what should I listen to while walking around the streets of the city?

got any Big Black, listen to kerosene on repeat
is Bojack really worth it

Nothing says France like James Brown.

>got any Big Black, listen to kerosene on repeat
Not in my backlog, but I love that album anyway.
>is Bojack really worth it
fuck yes.
Will do

First two seasons of Bojack were top. Haven't seen the third season yet but I'm hyped.

>BoJack is great so far!
Is it? The last two seasons are dramatic potential squandered by awful jokes. That chicken episode was unbearable

Time to go for a walk to all this James Brown goodiness.

>The last two seasons are dramatic potential squandered by awful jokes.
The awful jokes make it so much enjoyable for me at least. I do have a terrible sense of humor though.
>That chicken episode
Either haven't seen it yet or completely forgot about it.

Co, I can't thank you enough for showing me Delroy Edwards. Each new release I listen to has me in awe, each one even more than the last.

Seriously, his new album might just be AOTY

Isn't piketty hard to read if you don't have much background in economics? That's what I heard at least.

>Communist Manifesto
Watch out, you're triggering shamey

Good morning, all my /daily/friends. I hope you are all having a great day so far.

I never liked BoJack Horseman. Maybe I should give it another chance, only saw a few episodes of the first season

The Prince is Machiavelli pandering, it shows how shallow politics really are. Read his other texts about republicanism also if you insist on reading The Prince.

I can give some recommendations on politics, I guess. Plato is a utopian madman for political philosophy, Aristotle is much better. If you really want to read him, read The Republic, I guess. I have a bunch of stuff in digital form, if you want, that I can supply you with, dealing with liberalism and communitarism.

For philosophy, I will recommend Wittgenstein. He was a true genius. For fun, read Paul Feyerabends "How to defend society against science". I am mostly into philosphy of science, so I can supply you with stuff from that also.

Finally, Nihilismo by Sole & DJ Pain 1 is really fun, even though they are all socialists. They are genuinely angry, it is hella dope.

Going on walks in the park with a good album is the best

Also thanks for not drowning in the tub

Well, thanks for all of The recs! I think i'm set for summer. I think i need to reactivate my Old reading habit. I will read all of these suggestions when i finish some of my father's books
I can read satire, no biggie
Sorry if it'sa bother, but if you can supply me with digital a digital download i would Thank You deeply

John Lennon - Plastic Ono
yeah, it was fine I guess, not really anything to write home about, there were a couple of good songs

Mx-80 Sound - Hard Attack
bit of a Sonic Youth Rip off, not a bad one though

>checks the date on Hard Attack
>well before sonic youth
fugg
still not as good

This vastly depends on the fields and the philosophers. Many philosophers deliberately wrote in a confusing manner because they did not think that philosophical knowledge should be freely available to the public. In political philosophy, you sort of have to read Plato and Aristoteles writings on politics because up until, what, the 17th century, based their thoughts on a critique on their ideas. They did not explicitly explain these ideas (see Machiavelli and Rousseau). However, philosophers like, for example, Wittgenstein can be read freely, seeing as he did not base his philosophy on a critique of previous thoughts. He simply thought his way to the perfect explanation, so to speak. I would still argue that an understanding of the Greek ideas are necessary either way, simply because their ideas are still being discussed.

Not a bother at all, this can easily be arranged. I will make a list of what I have and I will send you are a cute message on RYM, that is easier than doing it all here.

I would argue as well that contextless reading of philosophy will give you nothing. This is why philospohy and history of philosophy is intertwined. Hobbes lived in a time with brutal civil war, Machiavelli was exiled and tortured, Carl Schmitt was a true nazi; the ideas generated and the ideas critiqued are intertwined, as is environment. Again, my reference point is political philospohy, which is obviously not as abstract as something like Derrida. Am I saying you need to read every little piece of philosophy to understand an idea? No, which is why you start with the Greeks, Plato and Aristotle, who practically wrote about everything. Aristotle himself covered political philosophy, philosophy of science, ethics, existential philosophy and so on. What you find interesting there, you build upon. No knowledge came without hard work and I would argue that working your way forward is better and easier than working your way backwards.

tfw all the albums on the chart are fuckin long and I just want it to be over already

Days without coffee: 02 ;_; Gonna get the coffee today, I think.

Got up, made some yerba mate, listened to Simon & Garfunkel - Sounds of Silence. A bit boring folk pop, but nothing bad. 2.5

Skaldowie - Od wschodu do zachodu słońca (1970) (Polish psychedelic pop, with a bit of prog rock). It's OK I guess, but it isn't anything worth writing about. It can be nice if you're nostalgic about the good ol' times or if you want to learn about music in Eastern Europe (actually middle Europe) in the past.

They like wrestling outside Burgerstan?

DELETE BROTHER NERO

I forgot, the rating for Skaldowie was 3.0

>Many philosophers deliberately wrote in a confusing manner because they did not think that philosophical knowledge should be freely available to the public.
I noticed.
>based their thoughts on a critique on their ideas
>they did not explicitly explain these ideas
Any intelligent discussion can be valuable to an intelligent person even without knowing all the necessary background info. I haven't read Machiavelli or Rousseau but if their writings are well reasoned one should be able to learn something from them without in depth knowledge of the works they're referring to, even if it's all prefaced by "X was right/wrong because". If you don't know X you still have the "because", which of course still won't tell you about X but it will tell you about the thoughts of the author you're reading. That's discussion. That's always valuable. References are only valuable if you know what's being referenced. Again, I don't know because I haven't read the works you're referencing but I'm willing to bet there's more discussion going on in them than referencing.
>I would argue as well that contextless reading of philosophy will give you nothing
I would argue that you didn't read the first part of the post you're replying to that didn't adress you.
>working your way forward is better and easier than working your way backwards
Probably. Should working backwards be discouraged though? Should people who for whatever reason want to read one author or another be shunned for not being all that drawn to the Greeks and wanting to hold off on reading them? Should I be projecting this hard? No, definitely not.

the only book that you should read are the Epic of Gilgamesh, Odyssey, Iliad, Aeneid, Ovid's Metamorphoses, the Divine Comedy and the Bible. The rest is not really important

I see your point, to a degree. And of course, I am not discouraging anything, I am just stating my case on how I find it easiest to understand philosophy, a subject that is pretty difficult to just jump in to, so to speak. And as mentioned, I explicity stated that you do not need to read every bit of philosophy to understand what comes after. What I do think though, is that it vastly helps understanding the previous ideas in the first place, seeing as most of philosophy is based on a critique of previous thinkers. The difference is between knowing and understanding.

>References are only valuable if you know what's being referenced.
Exactly, which is why I advocate going forwards instead of backwards with philosophy. However, in the end, I guess it comes down to personal preference, the field of philosophy and even the philosopher. Again, my study is political theory and philosophy of science where understanding the philosophy and knowing the history of political philosophy is equally important.

>I haven't read Machiavelli or Rousseau but if their writings are well reasoned one should be able to learn something from them without in depth knowledge of the works they're referring to, even if it's all prefaced by "X was right/wrong because".
Of course, nobody is arguing that. I refer back knowing versus understanding.

Also, ease down, tiger, no hard feelings, chief.

>he falls for the old book meme
kill self

because starting to read with texts that founded and shaped literature is worse than starting to read with fucking Camus and Orwell? You're clueless

>the Bible
Literally one of the most boring and overlong things you can read, why bother, my brother

>I can read satire
I can see that, considering your preferred ideology can't be anything other than satirical

Are you actually a communist, Terminus? Like, really? Or are you just memeing?

no, but thinking that those texts are the only things worth a damn is delusional
especially since the narrative and poetic forms evolved over time, so the fact of the matter is that you start to see more technically proficient "more readable" books the further along in time you go AS WELL AS more complex, so I think that reading the masterpieces of world literature, each in and of themselves worthy of doctorate level study is a poor starting place, not being contraversial here, there's a reason they don't study Dante in 1st year English Literature
don't believe me?
try reading Thomas Mallory's L'Morte D'Arthur and then read something like Lord of the Rings (or if you want to stay within the Arthur mythos and are feeling spicy, Mists of Avalon) tell me which is the better book from a readability sense
Old =/= good, but New also =/= Good
Epic of Gilgamesh is overrated, so is the Odyssey, don't start a fight with a literature major about literature if you yourself are a non-literature major, you'll lose

also nobody has mentioned Shakespeare itt, travesty
my favorite is Titus Andronicus, fairly bloody and one of his simpler plays
most people "start with" Macbeth or The Merchant of Venice though, both are excellent

also uh, post-modernism is a thing, there is no high and low art remember

I'm not entirely sure I get what you're trying to say about knowing and understanding but otherwise I feel you, it's k. I just get triggered whenever I see "start with the Greeks" because I didn't and it makes me feel like some dumb cunt. I'm looking to correct that mistake soon anyway, especially since you mentioned Rousseau who I wanted to read for a while now because Lévi-Strauss referenced him, who I read because those absolute madmen in the previous pic I posted referenced him. Even doing it the pseud way I would have gotten around to it eventually so I feel somewhat validated in my life choices.
>Also, ease down, tiger, no hard feelings, chief. Camus and Orwell are good authors
>their works are easy to read
>Epic of Gilgamesh, Odyssey, Iliad, Aeneid, Ovid's Metamorphoses, the Divine Comedy and the Bible are great
>they are significantly harder to read for a variety of reasons
I can't for the life of me figure out what someone who calls himself uncultured should read first, can anyone help me?

t. the guy who listens to trap rap but probably hasn't touched more than a few recordings of traditional folk music and medieval classical music, and certainly hasn't read up on the complete history of music

In any case, I don't think there is such a thing as a "good" and a "bad" way to start consuming a certain form of art. What makes you think starting with long ancient texts necessarily gives one a profound passion for literature that they wouldn't have had if they skipped these or saved them for another time? If anything, I'd say starting with some text that is very long, originally written in a different language, and in general a lot more difficult to read would do anything but excite me and incite me to read more.

Standard communism is more fun to meme than fun to live under, but I most definitely subscribe to socialist thought in one way or another and not in a pussified social-democratic way. I also tend towards communitarianism, although I do see a problem with man's general tendency towards tribalism that will undoubtedly be amplified if you simply let people live and function in smaller communities and call it a day.

More than anything though, I know what I don't subscribe to, and that is capitalism. So, world is a fuck.

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afaik all the tracks called "the rest of your evening" on chokebore albums arent meant to be listened, they're probably an injoke or whatever. I just deleted the track and forgot it existed