What happened to vaporwave? Did it finally die?

What happened to vaporwave? Did it finally die?

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No, it's in the middle of a long process of morphing into something better. I think.

I love it when I listen to some vaporwave and my family can point out the samples

what an embarrassing comment

>Sup Forumstants find other people enjoying music embarrassing

more like
>this Sup Forumstant finds other people showing vaporwave to parents embarrassing

Unless it's like OPN or something. That'll just make your dad say "oh hey it's Tangerine Dream, I love these guys".

It already has
think Oneohtrix Point Never

>That'll just make your dad say "oh hey it's Tangerine Dream, I love these guys".
You must have a cool dad

omg was listenning to this particular album right now

it's dope, isn't it?

how is OPN ANYTHING like TD?

Early OPN is a pretty blatant TD ripoff

I hope he isn't one of those guys that call Garden of Delete progressive electronic

its funny because i lost so much respect for him reading this interview where he basically said tangerine dream sucked and he barely even tried listening to a full album of theirs

what a horrible thing to say about your father

what a horrible thing to say about all fathers

he's autistic and very deep, he doesn't need to listen to popular music, especially from the past

>its funny because i lost so much respect for him reading this interview where he basically said tangerine dream sucked and he barely even tried listening to a full album of theirs
I always figured he was a huge fan because of how similar his early work is to Tangerine Dream
I guess if he doesn't have an interest in the past he's bound to repeat it

name one TD song that sounds anything like early OPN.

Have you listened to Returnal?

>I always figured he was a huge fan because of how similar his early work is to Tangerine Dream
name one TD song that sounds anything like early OPN please.

youtube.com/watch?v=uBLybGZN_ek

youtube.com/watch?v=zM2t0B-Pg9M

why is that picture so A E S T H E T IC

that doesn't fulfill my request. i said name one TD song that sounds anything like early OPN please. link me.

name some early OPN that doesn't sound like TD
protip: you can't
And by early OPN I mean pre-Replica

I'm just wondering if you've listened to them

If you people think that TD sounds at all like ANY era of OPN then you are fooling yourself and have no clear music knowledge or capability at all. completely different sonic aesthetics we're dealing with here. sounds completely different.

If you people think that TD sounds at all like ANY era of OPN then you are fooling yourself and have no clear music knowledge or capability at all. completely different sonic aesthetics we're dealing with here. sounds completely different.
>And by early OPN I mean pre-Replica
I fucking know what you mean you idiot.

If you think OPN sounds nothing like TD then you obviously haven't listened to much OPN
Hint: He didn't always do plunderphonics

m8 i'm a huge opn fan and TD is highly similar to early OPN

>28 replies to a vaporwave thread
>20 replies are about OPN/TD

What do you fucking take me for, an idiot? I've literally listened to every OPN project out there. It seems like YOU'RE the fool in this situation, since you aren't even capable of having the most basic form of musical comprehension and knowledge.

How is it at fucking all? It's COMPLETELY different sonic aesthetics. Fucking imagine placing a TD track in the middle of an early OPN record, it would feel COMPLETELY out of place and, guess what, it would sound like it was made by an entirely different artist you idiot. There's nothing similar to OPN's early sound aside from a few obscure new age tapes from the '80s I've heard in the past.

Why so angry?
You know I'm right. Just admit it.

You don't even have the most basic form of music knowledge or capability idiot. Just stop talking about stuff you obviously have no knowledge of. Stop acting like you're the authority figure.

only person on this site that says shit like obscure new age tapes is marcel
fuck off marcel td is similar to OPN

K
Get your ears checked bud

I'm just going to guess that this guy who keeps saying TD sounds nothing like OPN is either Dan or Marcel, judging by how these posts are worded. Nobody else would go out of their way to claim they know this much or describe his music like this in this way or offer this sort of knowledge on background to OPN's music. This is insane.

Marcel, I literally couldn't give a shit that you helped out with that Kaoss Edge Garden of Delete ARG, please stop talking and go away, this is just like the time when you derailed that Dean Blunt thread a while back because people were "misinterpreting" your precious client's sonic aesthetics and concepts.

I would say the genre got stale and ran into the ground, the same way downtempo and chillwave did from 2002-2010.

Chillwave pretty much ascended the microgenre status and became normal indie pop music from 2010 to 2013.

People are still cranking out watered down chillwave and its still eaten up.

Hypnagogic pop has had such startling longevity, which I guess is due to inherently being handicapped from a mainstream pop perspective.

m83 was the only artist that could be considered hypnagogic pop who really hit the mainstream

do you think hypnagogic pop could keep going or has that ship long since sailed?

M83 is not hypnagogic pop in the slightest.

ANGEL PLEASE DON'T GOOOO

not overall but it at least touches the genre, true hypnagogic pop artists never even got close to popularity outside of blogs and Sup Forums

In a very loose sense, you could attribute the rise of bedroom pop to hypnagogic pop.

To stretch the scene a lot further, Mac Demarco is connected to hypnagogic pop pillars like Ferraro and Ariel Pink, though I would be very hard pressed to call him hypnagogic pop.

I think as long as bedroom pop is searching for an aesthetic, hypnagogic pop will keep on going. It's just vague enough to both incorporate crossover artists as well as allow for experimentation and variety. I mean guys who essentially make normal lo-fi pop intermingle with guys who put out cassette side long essentially noise ambient.

get hyped 4 tha new 2814 album senpai, coming out in 2 days

m83 isn't hypnagogic pop
ARIEL PINK and dean blunt made it out
james ferraro also

You could argue Ariel Pink has had some breakthroughs in the mainstream, at least from an industry perspective. Collaborating with Sky Ferreira to Miley Cyrus is a pretty big accomplishment for a guy recording shit on a 4 track in his bedroom.

>I think as long as bedroom pop is searching for an aesthetic, hypnagogic pop will keep on going. It's just vague enough to both incorporate crossover artists as well as allow for experimentation and variety. I mean guys who essentially make normal lo-fi pop intermingle with guys who put out cassette side long essentially noise ambient.
look at this, though:

rateyourmusic.com/genre/Hypnagogic Pop/16

ever since people like James Ferraro, Rangers, Ducktails, Sam Mehran, and Dolphins Into The Future stopped putting out h-pop tapes the genre has been really inactive and hasn't had a sort of "landmark" release since the "golden era" of the genre, when those people were still active in it.

>guy
Go back to Sup Forums you Nazi

nah that stuff is very popular around the art scene atm.
it's gonna come back bigger. pc music is a by product of hypnagogic pop anyway. it's influence is heavy man

>nah that stuff is very popular around the art scene atm
what are some notable h-pop-oriented releases from this year then?

I think a lot of it has to do with a shifting microgenre scene and people tagging things as "hypnagogic pop".

Things like chillwave and even vaporwave sort of kept hypnagogic pop tangentially relevant in terms of blog buzz because you'd still get examples from those genres tagged with "hypnagogic pop".

It's dipped down but I still see releases today labeled with the same h-pop tag.

also how would a genre like hypnagogic pop "come back bigger" like you're saying?

you could argue that the fucking golden era of the genre from like 2008-2010, where some of the genre's best ever releases were putting out in a headrush of cassettes and cd-rs, is long gone, right?

nothing physically released this year
but everybody in my scene plays nothing but john maus,geneva jacuzzi,ferraro and tries to imitate them

do they by chance have any of their material public atm?

one person does but that sc account is linked to their RL name and I wouldn't post that on Sup Forums.
it's still inferior stuff to the golden era

That's probably been it's most productive period. H-pop had been jamming since 2004 but it was that period (which is epitomized as the summer of chillwave in 2009) where it defined itself.

In some sense it's not gone, because the whole cassette trade among the indie scene is definitely due to the h-pop tape culture, and the rise of bedroom pop culture. But because of it becoming more commonplace, the original scene has dialed back, it's no longer their thing anymore.

I think the biggest difference now is instead of bloggers posting about rare tapes from these bands, it's the bands themselves existing on the internet allowing people to aggregate them, search for them actively.

It's a new kind of mystique.

o shit

I can see that.

Any good vaporwave releases this year? I kinda fell off the genre early 2015 when it was permeated by shitty and lazy future funk

Yeah, it's pretty much done. It's kept in the eye of the internet by youtube channels like Artzie, Ezek, and Soundstation who comb through older releases and tack on a shitty anime gif. As such, it's really hard to find people to talk about the genre with who aren't surface level memers.

mac + just dropped some new shit

仮想夢プラザ [Virtual Dream Plaza] - 夢愛, James Ferraro - Human Story 3, LILLITH双生 - (SEASON_0) Hazard Garden, and 仮想夢プラザ [Virtual Dream Plaza] - 仮想夢女の子 have all been getting some high praise this year.

name one good album from her

she's the reason for the "lol vaporwave takes no effort" meme

hs3 isn't vaporwave at all

i won't bother because you're just going to say "kek that album is le shit"

also
>her

damn i remember artzie, that channel went to trash when it was non stop, like you said, anime gifs with 80s jpop

Well that sucks to know the genre hasn't progressed much aside from OPN

vektroid is literally a woman with a vagina from portland oregon

trust me i have to put up with hearing about vektroid every day in this city

>name one good album from her

Sacred Tapestry is as good as any Lopatin release.

Actually its a man named Derek from Portland, Oregon.

idiot

thanks, ill check these out

"Ramona Xavier" is like the name an alt porn star would take.

Not many that I can think of, I think we've started to enter the post vaporwave era now. Swing by the bandcamp threads and check out guys like Dave Roland Heavenly Bodies.

dave-roland.bandcamp.com/album/montreal

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>You don't even have the most basic form of music knowledge or capability
>entire argument is "MUH AESTHETICS"

you're the problem since you associate it with a meme word. what i'm saying is legit.

no I'm pretty certain you are the problem since you're incapable of any sort of argument outside of a single meme word

It's been replaced by Deep Internet

>pc music is a by product of hypnagogic pop anyway
no it isn't

what did i literally just say? it's not a meme word. stop thinking everything revolves around memes you idiot.

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it's a meme if you're incapable of saying anything but said meme word