Fall of my bike while cycling

>Fall of my bike while cycling
>Cut my knee
>Go to Hospital Inc
>Get a plaster put on my knee
>Go to the checkout
>"That'll be 2499.99 sir, us tax"
>mfw

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland
usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-04-08-fda-tobacco-costs_N.htm
adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/why-police-booked-cyclists-22000-times-in-the-last-four-years/news-story/b59ffe39b4ba60f2eabb53cf2e2a2c53?nk=616347182a8943635e8a6a4a8f152b10-1477626228
telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12207571/Revealed-Britain-is-third-worst-country-in-EU-for-nanny-state-regulation.html
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nanny-state-index-excessive-regulation-and-sin-taxes-make-britain-the-worst-place-to-live-in-the-eu-a6962671.html
fee.org/articles/how-the-uk-became-the-third-worst-nanny-state-in-europe/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherlands
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572446/Budget-2016-cigarettes-40-packets-make-Australia-world-s-expensive.html
politicususa.com/2016/02/10/why-americans-cant-have-universal-healthcare-like-europeans.html
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Why would you go to the hospital for a cut on your knee?

>mfw OP forgot to tip

>vast majority of americans have health insurance
>don't have to live in a nanny state where cigs and drinks or other unhealthy stuff is taxed to shit because of "muh healthcare costs"

I'd much rather a system where people pay for their own costs any day.

I actually have very affordable very good health insurance, and I live in a particularly poor state

This.

This is what happens when socialized care is in place

>hurr smoking causes a ton of costs to our healthcare system so we will tax it to oblivion and eventually get it banned(even though smokers actually save the government money in the long run because they die earlier)
>hurr drinking, fast food, candy, chips, riding a bicycle without a helmet, etc cause a ton of costs to our healthcare system so we gotta tax the shit out of it or ban it

Fuck socialized healthcare. All it results is in an inevitable loss of many negative liberties.

>forget to tip
>hospital staff shoots you on your way out
Way to go faggot

It isn't that it costs a ton to our healthcare, they're taxed to discourage their use. What's your problem anyway? Lmao, you a poorfag?

Stop being so assblasted

imo swifzerland has the best healthcare system

it isn't socialized or state-provided. it's a bigger and far more efficent version of obongocare

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland


>Healthcare in Switzerland is universal[3] and is regulated by the Swiss Federal Law on Health Insurance. There are no free state-provided health services, but private health insurance is compulsory for all persons residing in Switzerland (within three months of taking up residence or being born in the country).[4][5][6]

And their healthcare and social services are better than virtually all EU countries and put bongistan and their NHS to shame.

This is how you have god-tier healthcare without being a nanny state or robbing more than half of peoples income for "free" care

That's literally the justification.

Look at Australia. The public health nuts have gone full batshit tyrants and keep banning or heavily increasing taxes on anything remotely dangerous or can cause harm because of the "healthcare costs"

Now Ausfailia has one of the highest taxes on alcohol, cigs, fast food, candy, etc. You can't even ride a bicycle without a helmet. It's the biggest nanny state in the world.

UK follows behind.

Fuck socialized healthcare my m8.

>be a brit
>need a surgery
>go to hospital
>put on the wait list
>wait until they are done with all the pajeets that fell off their bikes
>die after waiting for 30 days

The less people that smoke the better, and I'm a smoker. It destroys your lungs. Raising taxes on smokes will discourage people from starting. You're so assblasted about your shitty healthcare though, LMAO

a lot of things like the helmet thing are technically laws but never enforced

I enjoy the freedom to smoke so cry harder faggot. The healthcare costs argument does not hold water because smokers save money by dying earlier.

usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-04-08-fda-tobacco-costs_N.htm

And multiple studies have confirmed this.

Your nanny state is shit and I enjoy living in a country that doesn't treat you like a retarded toddler. If I want to destroy my own lungs, that's my own choice.

>highest taxes on alcohol, cigs, fast food, candy
im quite literally fine with this as a smoker
it discourages vices which amount to probably 80% of our nation's health care costs

>Nanny state
>Coming from a yank
L M F A O

Nice lie.

adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/why-police-booked-cyclists-22000-times-in-the-last-four-years/news-story/b59ffe39b4ba60f2eabb53cf2e2a2c53?nk=616347182a8943635e8a6a4a8f152b10-1477626228

>Police pull up cyclists more often for their failure to have a front light than failure to have a rear one, but riding without a helmet is by far the most common offence.

>Other cycling offences include riding without having at least one hand on the handlebars and leaving before bicycle crossing lights go green.

>Cyclists get booked for helmet infringements most often in the afternoon, with almost one person each day on average getting booked between 4pm and 5pm for not wearing a helmet.

>going to the hospital

P U S S Y
U
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S
Y

Why the fuck should the government be discouraging anything? Ever? Free people have a right to decide these things for themselves, the government should stay the fuck out of it.

i ride my bike everywhere and despite the cops obviously seeing me they've never even said a word about me not wearing a helmet

Honorary american.
And i mean that with the utmost respect.

>I'm ok with my retarded nanny state

And I'm ok with my freedom.

Lmao.


telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/12207571/Revealed-Britain-is-third-worst-country-in-EU-for-nanny-state-regulation.html

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nanny-state-index-excessive-regulation-and-sin-taxes-make-britain-the-worst-place-to-live-in-the-eu-a6962671.html


fee.org/articles/how-the-uk-became-the-third-worst-nanny-state-in-europe/

John Locke and Mill are rolling in their graves my man.

slightly higher drinking age > slightly lower drinking age but taxes out the ass on alcohol

triggered

>muh anecdote

don't care

We have a similar system of mandatory insurances. That's why you stole Obongo care from us.
Only in the Netherlands every person has a family doctor. He's always your first stop to medical care and he assesses which care you need.

>In 2015 the Netherlands maintained its number one position at the top of the annual Euro health consumer index, which compares healthcare systems in Europe, scoring 916 of a maximum 1,000 points. The Netherlands has been in the top three countries in every report they have published since 2005. On 48 indicators such as patient rights and information, accessibility, prevention and outcomes, the Netherlands secured its top position among 37 European countries for the fifth year in a row.[6] The Netherlands was also ranked first in a study comparing the health care systems of the United States, Australia, Canada, Germany and New Zealand
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherlands

>taking bait

well the life i've lived and the australia you're proposing exists are very different. i think i'll stick with my impression

You're as fucking dumb as the retardeds supporting universal tax funded healthcare and the government stripping you of negative liberties for the sake of "your own good."

Ever heard of bread & circuses? That's fucking America. Give you a couple guns and cheap cigarettes and you won't ask too many questions about things that actually matter like your finances. Canadians might pay more for cigarettes because they are children willing to let papa Ottawa tell them how to live, but Americans have far worse with far more important shit, like your retirement savings. You have way less options or fluitidy with yours than Canadians do with ours.
They are both fucking bullshit nanny state nonsense, but I would rather put on a helmet and pay $15 for a pack of cigarettes than have my own retirement savings be outside my control.

>being this jelly of our freedoms
enjoy your socialism and sharia law, yurofag
lmao

I'm the commentator the person was replying to.

While I don't agree with a completely handsoff approach to stuff like alcohol or cigs by the government, I'm fine with anti-smoking ads, banning smoking indoors in public and even slight taxation (like a dollar per pack to offset some of the costs). There has to be some set of regulations. Educate people about the risks of smoking or drinking, offer incentives for people to kick the habit, fund safer alternatives like vaping, etc.

But ultimately let adults make their own decision.

The thing is that Australia and the UK excessively regulate it to the point of insanity. 50 dollars for a pack of cigarettes is disgustingly draconian.

>be american
>cross the road
>get shot

>50 dollars for a pack of cigarettes is disgustingly draconian.
b-but that exists literally nowhere

>a system where people pay for their own costs

this is not how insurance works

you're paying for other people's costs through the insurance

the only difference is you're paying more because a lot of the insurance money goes to the insurance companies and other ends than actual medical aid

add on top of that the massive costs for medicare etc that you need to fund through taxes to make up for the problems of having privatized healthcare system

>muh retirement payments
>50% inclme tax

kys my man

>american actually defend their healthcare system that's the laughing stock of the western world

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572446/Budget-2016-cigarettes-40-packets-make-Australia-world-s-expensive.html

>50 dollars for a pack of cigarettes is disgustingly draconian.
buy loose tobacco and role your own it costs virtually nothing and is probably better for you relatively speaking anyway

That's what I do.

that's forty kangaroo dollars which is 30 in real money, ie 40% less than $50

A business owner can decide whether or not they choose to ban smoking, that's up to them, your doctor and parents can teach kids that smoking is bad, or even privately funded organisations that want to buy commercials or signs, taxes shoukd not be paying for this shit.
Also, offset what costs? Healthcare? A dead smoker at 50 is a lot cheaper than a guy that lives to be 90.

The problem is the "anti" everything campaigns become 600 million dollar a year industries who wind up exaggerating and lying about shit to keep the anti-gravy-train rolling.

But according to your graph, we spend less on public care than a couple of european countries

We obviously spend the most on private care because healthcare here is not government provided

nonetheless there are many illegals here who get free care without paying a cent. It should be illegal and those fucking spics shouldn't recieve any sort of care or automatic citizenship for being in the country illegally.

My annual salary is close to 100k. I have more disposable income here even after paying for a 90/10 plan a month than if I lived in Sweden and was taxed to shit for free care

So?

30 USD for a pack of cigarettes is still absolutely ridiculous.

so you almost doubled the actual amount
$30 is still very high but not nearly as insane as $50

That's what I was doing for a few years but eventually I switched to vaping.
An actual natural tobacco rolled cigarette is a far cry from what you get with a name brand pack, especially since they forced them to add the fire retardant poisons to them. That's when I switched to rolling.

Yeah I know smokers save money in the long run because they die earlier, (it costs a shitton to take care of the elderly and alzheimers alone is probably the costliest disease)

I don't mind if the givernment had a dollar tax on a pack just to get some money to fund their shit as long as the taxes remained low at a dollar and weren't continually hiked up every few years.

America has a higher tax rate than Canada, although both are shit and waste retarded amounts of it. Canada's maximum tax rate is 33% on all households making over $200k. America's is fucking 39.6% on households making over $415k and the same 33% betwen $190k and $415k
You seem pretty sharp, and not a government cuck like most itt, but get your facts straight.
Oh, and wait until Hillary takes the reins and pray she doesn't get the seats in the house.

>he goes to the hospital over a cut on his knee

wew

I referring to aussie dolly not usd

>a pack of XTC pills is cheaper than a pack of cigarettes
nice

>But according to your graph, we spend less on public care than a couple of european countries

are you dumb?

you're paying both for private and public healthcare

you're paying for an insurance that costs more than other countries pay for healthcare, and on top of that you're paying for socialized healthcare for people who can't afford the insurance

it's literally a lose lose situation

>taxed to shit for free care

that has nothing at all to do with healthcare

taxes are high because welfare is high

This is accurate

A pack of cigs here 5 to 6 euros. A single XTC pill 4 euros.

Did you not read my entire comment retarded somali cint?

I have more disposable income here even after paying for a 90/10 plan than in Sweden where I get taxed much harder for "free" care. So my situation in America is better than Sweden in terms of having more disposable income to spend.

If we followed your system, our taxes would be much higher.

are you literally retarded or something? did you pass high school?

the reason you have more disposable income has nothing to do with healthcare, it has to do taxes that go toward welfare

even if you have a higher disposable income, you're paying more % of that towards healthcare than I do

if american healthcare was socialized like in other countries, you'd have even more disposable income because of higher efficiency

do I have to spell it out in a 4th post or do you understand now?

And us spending the most on healthcare has to do with many other factors. Not just because we didn't socialize our health system.

Look at Switzerland in your graph. Healthcare is not socialized there and they spend nearly the same as Germany and Austria on healthcare.

If there was a healthcare system we should follow, it should be Switzerland.

If you can come up with a plan for socialized healthcare in the US that doesn't include having to jack up taxes massively or tax the shit out of beer, pack of ciggies or any other sin taxes let me know.

I think the reason that your health care system is so expensive has little to do with the services you provide. But more that your education is so fucking expensive that professionals will ask ridiculous prices to get their money back and then continue doing it throughout their career.

switzerland pays less for healthcare because their system is more straightforward and controlled

in USA a lot of the money of your insurance goes to the corporations profit, extremely high doctor salaries etc

it doesn't necessarily have to be socialized, but it needs to be transparent and efficient, neither of which the US one is

Holy fuxk you cannot put two and two together.

If we implemented universal socialized healthcare in the US, income taxes would be raised significantly. This was proven in all models. Our income tax for 100k would be something like 49 percent and for 300k over 50.

Let me spell it out for you.

We cannot have socialized care here without hiking up income taxes significantly.

It is irrelevant if we pay more for healthcare than any country. What matters is how much disposable income I have on a salary of nearly 100k AFTER paying for a 90/10 health insurance plan compared to making the same amount in Sweden but getting taxed far more for social services which include healthcare and other stuff.

I'll say it again to get it through your thick wkull.

We cannot have universal socialized care in America without increasing income taxes greatly.

40 percent*

>We cannot have universal socialized care in America without increasing income taxes greatly
>This was proven in all models

what models? how was it "proved"?

literally every other example in the developed world proves you wrong

if anyone at any point has suggested the US's system is more cost effective than in any other country, it's because of massive lobbying from insurance companies

even if you did have to raise income taxes to fund the insurance costs, you would pay less than you're paying today

if you actually listen to the people who defend the US healthcare system, their argument is always about some loose idea of "freedom" and complaining about socialism and never has anything to do with costs, because if it became a matter of costs it would be blatantly obvious that you're being tricked by corporations

>I'd have more disposable income if healthcate was socialized

No I wouldn't. Not at a 100k salary. Maybe on a 50k or 60k.

Income taxes will be increased significantly as a rwault of socialized care. I would have less disposable income if I was taxed 40% than the 28% I pay now.

And you forget that many employers all provide additional healthcare benefits in tandem with your health insurance.

If you were a poorfag or a neet, then yes Sweden is better. If you are upper class and make 90k+ America is better. As even after paying for a 90/10 plan and other taxes you would still have more disposable money to spend than getting hit with the heavy taxation in sweden for all the DUDEFREESHIT lmao.

Wow. Didn't know healthcare was that bad in the UK.

politicususa.com/2016/02/10/why-americans-cant-have-universal-healthcare-like-europeans.html

Dude. I don't want to pay for more fucking taxes. Neither do most Americans. It's fucming insane how you can be robbed of more than half of your income in sweshit for healthcare and other free shit. This is why all your high paying successful people flee to Switzerland or the US.

I would pay less in healthcare costs, sure.

But because income taxes will be jacked up greatly, I will actually have LESS disposable income in the end than if I had just stuck to payibg for a 90/10 plan.

you're typoing all over the place and responding multiple times to my posts

are you drunk right now?

>Dude. I don't want to pay for more fucking taxes

yeah of course I understand that, but that has nothing to do with the topic

there is no real world example to suggest that more control over healthcare equals higher costs for citizens

every other country shows that citizens pay less % of their income for healthcare because more of the money that goes towards healthcare actually goes towards healthcare and not other interests

Why didn't you save what you didn't end up losing to taxes?

>Fall of my bike cycling
>Cut knee
>Walk home
>Pour some hydrogen peroxide on it
>Put some anti-bacterial shit and then two big band aids
>Takes a few months to heal
>mfw
Literally happened. Do you need the gubment to change your diaper and spoon feed you too, Bong? Need them to heat up your milk for you?

>>Takes a few months to heal
What? It should take a couple of weeks at most.

Also I doubt you can fix serious stuff with just hydrogen peroxide but since you're just shitposting w/e.

Well,
to be fair it wasn't a cut, I sorta like, scrapped the skin off a good chunk of my knee and it was dangling.
So I did that then put the skin back on.
It was pussy for a long time is why it took a while to heal, but nothing bad happened from not going to the doctor's to get my boo boo fixed.

Also I didn't say JUST hydrogen peroxide, I said anti-bacterial stuff.
That's neosporin for example.

Polysporin tbqhfamalam

Sorry, we don't care to pay for Jamalmand Guiterez's children they can't afford or their obesity.

I literally posted a link for you.

If the US were to adopt nordic Healthcare , our income taxes would greatly increase.

What the socialized system is greatest for would be for families earning 50k and such.

but for people who make around 100k, the taxation rate would be 40%. They would have less disposable income with your system had they simply payed for a 90/10 plan instead.
Americans are sick of increased tax hikes. Does the American health system need massive improvements? Yes. But the system we should be following is Switzerland, not Sweden. Switzerland provides god-tier healthcare that isn't socialized, has low taxation and doesn't tax the shit out of sin products. And this sysyem provides better healthcare and social services than almost all EU countries.

How about we come to a compromise. We give you our poor niggers and spics, you give us your rich who are dying to get out of your overtaxed cuckhole and wish for a greencard.

I would fucking take up arms if we got taxed like Europeans. Why do Euros accept such criminal tax rates?

I'm tired as fuck hence thebtypos and autocorrect on my phone and it will be my last post here.

Dude ot doesn't matter if ourngovernment will pay lessnin healthcare expenditure if we followed your system. The massive tax hikes completely pointless. For people who make close to 100k, we would have less disposable income under your system than paying for a 90/10 monthly.

How is this so hard to get?

render it*

I admore the Swiss because they have one of the best hewlthcate systems in the world, and isls not socialized

>go to hospital
People really do this?
For minor injuries and health problems I always go to the "family doctor".
Hospitals just drive health care cost up unnecessary.

>2 hour bump
Sue me

>americans are terrified of hoispitals
can't make it up