>Many people today stress what a great man/politician Bismarck was
>under Bismarck socialist were literally locked up and hanged/shot
>the same people praising Bismarck are likely to vote left/socialists today
>Hitler is le ebil mane while being socialist as fuck
>hate universally
Can someone explain this shit to me?
He was the last kraut who wasn't an autistic sperg.
>people praising Bismarck are likely to vote left/
They do, atleast in Germany, its ironic but leftists arent known for their intelligence.
What do they like about him? I can't see anything. they would like.
Bismarck actually made it possible to reform workers rights. It wasn't his idea and he had no other choice than doing it, but still..
That he united Germany.
That he wasnt a Nazi.
That he invented insurances for workers.
>That he wasnt a Nazi.
Debatable.
So you telling me, national socialism existed in the late 19th century?
I love what you're trying to do here.
Ideas exist as long as men exist, doesn't mean they have to be official.
Bismarck hated minorities and in some parts majorities, he tried to eradicate their cultures with Kulturkampf so the German one can be the strongest.
Isn't that Nazi?
Not him, but there was a lot more to National Socialism than muh German master race
But it was a big part of it.
Fight of the german people against other nationalities. Kulturkampf was exactly it.
>Bismarck hated minorities and in some parts majorities, he tried to eradicate their cultures with Kulturkampf so the German one can be the strongest
And where is the problem here? Sounds pretty good to be honest. We need someone like him now.
It caused downfall of the German Empire.
Why do you think there were so many uprisings against German rule? It's because Prussians treated Polish majority like fucking shit. Even Silesians were tired of their bullshit.
>It caused downfall of the German Empire.
Not Otto von Bismarck caused the downfall of the German Empire. The first world war caused it.
Kulturkampf prevented minorities and majorities from assimilating, since the whole action basically stated: YOU'RE WORSE THAN US.
WW1 wouldn't do shit to it if people that were living there started to identify as Germans. - It was possible.
Like that is something exclusive to the national socialist doctrine.
Sure, the Hitler administration took this idea to new lenghts, but you could might as well call Bismarck a Stalinist for doing that.
>but you could might as well call Bismarck a Stalinist for doing that.
Both Hitler and Stalin were socialist, both had special police, both did the same horrible shit to people.
They were the same, one of them just lost.
Well tbf a lot of the more "minor" parts of the Nazi ideology were very integral to it as a whole, and it would not be considered Nazism without them. But turning this into a semantics debate is a bit dumb because I do understand what your point is.
I don't really understand your point. Are you butthurt because Bismarck fantasised about exterminating the Poles?
The German Empire was fine till WWI broke out.
>socialist were literally locked up and hanged/shot
How can we go back to this?
Is any form of conversation butthurt in here?
My point is that Prussians were proto-nazis and doomed any chance Germany had the moment they united it.