Int, why do we have right wing renaissance worldwide?

Int, why do we have right wing renaissance worldwide?
Trump and altrights in USA.
Hindus nationalist party taking over India.
Theresa May and Brexit in Britain?
Putin going full conservative.
Islamists chimping out all over the MENA.
Right wing parties taking over Latin America.
What's going on?

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People are mad at the state of their nation and since the leftists are in charge they think the right has solutions, which they don't.

Everyone's lagging behind us, we voted right for the first time in like 50 years and that just made everything oh so much worse.

Nationalism replaced religion as the opiate of the masses, which was then in turn replaced by consumerism. Now we're going back to nationalism, it's the convoluted circle of life

It's indeed happening. The left became quite tyrant forcing their ideals for some time. There are like 100 genders now.

the fire rises

>The left became quite tyrant forcing their ideals for some time. There are like 100 genders now
It's only in the West, but we see right wing renaissance worldwide.
What do you mean? I've heard your economy is thriving now.
Religion should be next according to you, not the nationalism.

right wing parties in South America are completely different right wing populism in Europe. For example, Macri would probably be considered a pro-Europe liberal conservative here.

It's the cycle of most nations
>start as a poor cunt
>vote conservative to get the country on it's feet
>become successful
>become decadent
>become weak and naive
>vote left
>things are great at first
>welfare gets drained
>leeching hordes move in
>country goes to shit
>vote conservative
>repeat

it never went away in italy

Religion is already proven to be not working. There are still people who think nationalism is working and globalism is bad.

>muh circle
this is the first time in history that we're being invaded by shitskin immigrants and it's an irreversible thing, there is no cycle, just before and after the "enrichment".

Rome would beg to differ

shitaly has always been shit

from what I can tell most politicians are staunchly anti nationalism.

Even confiscating their own country's flags on occasion

t. Butthurt mud hut vs Coliseum

>he thinks "leftists" did this

Yeah tell me Reinfeldt isn't a fucking neo-liberal who thinks immigration is a great way to create a new underclass of cheap labour which will undermine the unions, the welfare state and put the corporations into an even more powerful position.

Shitalians have shit skin, it's a fact. Maybe they always had. So invasion from the middle east and africa is less noticeable than it is here.

Rome was mostly invaded by Germanics

It's not a cycle, it's a pendulum. It swings to the left to the right and vice versa but the whole pendulum is moving to the left constantly. For example, Trump would be considered very liberal 30-40 years ago - not a real racist, has nothing against gays etc.

This is a good point

well if you think everything will be fine because "lol Rome" you go right ahead, I think it's a very strange way of thinking

Pendulum swings back and forth, every progressive or traditionalist movement only swings it away from equilibrium.

Impetus leading to the momentum propelling the pendulum leads to it swinging far past any reasonable point and into the extreme we were 1 political generation removed from. Lather rinse repeat everyone loses

>if you think everything will be fine
I'm saying the exact opposite
Look at Rome today, and Europe in the middle ages

It wasn't really invaded. Hunns invaded, but most of barbarians just actually settled in roman territories and become Romanized very fast. Rome failed because of civil wars in second century and change of social formation to feudalism.
It's kind of pendulum too. You guys butthurted about Slavs at first, than about Africans, now about Arabs. As soon as old group integrates you always find a new one.
And India barely has any immigration, yet votes for right wingers, as well as Latin America. Arabs don't have serious immigration but there are islamists all over the place.

The babyboomers and hippies are getting old, so the next generation takes over. And they see the mess the last generation left behind.

>it's a pendulum
i agree but id like to add that the whole "pendulum is moving to the left constantly" thing gets reset in times of crisis

>Europe in the middle ages
Well, serfdom was better than slavery. 70-80% of population of Roman Empire were slaves, and being serf is better because serf is little more than walking tool. Also it's an idiocy to compare slaver society with capitalism.

And the ones prior thought the same thing...

What a tired meme. You do realize that the years before the baby booms were 2 largest global wars in history and the largest global economic depression ever?

How does the current mess or the post dot.com boom mess compare?

The world wars destroyed the European colonial empires.
The baby boomers destroyed the integrity of the European nations for future generations.

I can't say which one is worse.

>You guys butthurted about Slavs at first, than about Africans, now about Arabs. As soon as old group integrates you always find a new one.
we are still butthurt about all groups even slavs because slavs
1) dook our jerbs
2) do lots of crime

Now we're in a state of constant conflict within our own society with minorities.

Not really. Hitler was a leftist compared to 19th century German monarchists - he wasn't a huge fan of church, he thought government should be active in the economy, allowed women to work etc.
How does it matter? They had become old long time ago, in 80s-90s. And old people nowadays seem to be conservative mostly, look at Brexit where mostly old people voted to leave.
>mess
Europe not waging a war for 70 years is not a mess, lol, as well as creation of EU, high level of liberty etc. Europe before 60s was pretty shitty place to live, and world at all was too.

This so completely bullshit, you can read back through modern history and it's the same story of blaming the generation before them

There are always going to be problems facing humanity's present it takes a combination of conceit and naivety to hold that view point.

That doesn't mean it isn't true. The next generation can see the consequences of the decisions the generation before them have made. And the baby boomers have been exceptionally selfish and destructive.

This generation is going to pay for the debts of the former generation, the pensions, the houses, the migrants, the usage of our natural resources, while they haven't invested in a better future for us.

You know, at least the world wars were a personal sacrifice with the goal to make a better Germany for future generations.
You can't say the same for the baby boomers who seemed to put their own selfish interests and the interests of non-Dutch people first.

>destroyed the European colonial empires.
>it was bad
Lol. You spent a lot of money for colonies, making lifes of people there real hell with little payback, that's why colonial system was dismounted.
>integrity of the European nations
Nation states haven't worked by natural reason. In a global world where corporations and so are global there is no point to have wars and serious competitions between nations, it gives no profits and creates problems for business. So after that nations have started to fall apart, people started moving worldwide etc.

Colonialism wasn't sustainable. That's true. But before WW2 we were already shifting to a post-colonial age, as we were trying to educate Indonesians. But the German and Japanese intervention abruptly stopped that process. And a lot of chaos ensued.

>In a global world where corporations and so are global there is no point to have wars and serious competitions between nations
The Netherlands has been run by corporations for centuries.
We were neutral in WW1 and WW2 for a reason.

My point is there will always be problems and they will almost always be due to those who preceded you. There are so many articles going back even to the 19th century spitting the same bullshit in this thread about how the last generation was just the woooorst because x and y and had it so much easier because ___.

We definitely have our problems to deal with because of the follies of those before us and we are actively creating and ignoring the problems we are creating for our children and I think we can all identify a few.

People fucking suck overall, I suck, you suck, we're gonna make problems. What is the point of this pity party of acting like we have it so much worse than every previous generation, just like every generation did?

>So after that nations have started to fall apart, people started moving worldwide etc.
That's where you're wrong. You can't just move here without the permission oft he locals.
Before WW2 we had racial migration laws, but the fact we had to pull back out of colonies meant we had to let Dutch people, mixed people and pro-Dutch Indonesian soldiers and politicians in.

This was a good decision. But the decision to continue this policy and let Africans in, and especially Islamic ones, was a terrible and unnecessary decision. And denying the problem for decades was even worse because we've seen the effects for many decades now and still nothing has happened. And that's their fault.

Majority of voters don't remember world wars or the impact of nationalism and fascism. Compare the situation in Spain, where people remember Franco and there's a sudden emergence of populist left wing parties, with somewhere like France that has been fairly centrist since the 50s

>baby boomers have been exceptionally selfish and destructive.
Lol. First of all, problems you face now is a meme compared to world wars, cold war, struggles of monarchists and republicans.
And all you fucking westerners can't explain why do we face right wing renaissance worldwide, not only in the Europe and the West. India, Russia, Arab world, Latin America. We all didn't have baby boomers in the Western way yet we have the same problem of right wingers taking major position in political life.

Cold war was comfy AF for the west though

>India

Well India already has thousands of ethnic grozps in ots borders any kind of immigrant would just be one new cult or group among many.

They have the great hindu muslim conflict tho, Hindus want more power and fear being outbred after not really controlling their country since the marathanas fell.

Good for them I guess.

The difference is most of those problems weren't by our own doing.

Not to mention nothing happened here in the cold war despite an arms race, we were neutral in WW1 and we haven't had monarchist/republican problems in 450+ years.

If Franco wouldnt have gone all retarded with his catalan chauvinism and respected the smaller languages, would he be more liked today?

>impact of nationalism
Tbh there are absolutely horrible examples but also positive ones like kemal amd the like.
Most of our first democratic movements where nationalistic but people tend to forget this as it doesnt fit the historical narrative.

Dude literally thinks because he can't get a top 10% job he's stuck with so much bullshit when the generation before saw their cities reduced to rubble, millions die, rations, etc. Then the generation before that was living on streetcorners unemployed because of major worldwide depression

The kid is a coddled naive little child that wants to complain about how shit his life is when he's got it better than 90% of humanity

Eh, the 68ers where the generation whose birthrate fell under replacement and who flirted with communism despite the horrible example of it bwhind the wall, thus biasing our media for them to this day.
Its true tho that every generation fucks up in some way, still NOT being mad about these problems makes you not tend to them or remember hos they were caused.

>there's a sudden emergence of populist left wing parties
Seriously? You don't have that right wing populists? Cool. What's going on in Spain?
>world wars
But can a nationalism, and moreover, the right wing ideas to be livable in modern world, if they are directly contradicting interests of global corporations, interests of world economy etc? I mean, countries with right wingers in charge would stand still while others would go forward.
Well, it happened everywhere in Europe because European economy was thriving and needed more people. It has also happened, but in a smaller scale, worldwide by the number of other reasons: transnational corporations have become and started moving goods, people and resources worldwide. That's why tons of different trade agreements appeared after 50s and immigration laws become less strict. Btw in Europe since 90s immigration laws are becoming more and more strict. As the economy boom stopped you didn't need so much people anymore so you were tightening the laws. It's way more difficult to move to Europe now than it was in 90s.

>generation before.
Generatoon before werent the guys who fougjt in the war, it were their children experiencing great prosperity and peace in the west like us.

I'm actually quite successful and financially independent as an entrepreneur.
But if you just run the numbers the decisions the generation before us made don't make any sense in hindsight. They were just riding the wave avoiding every touchy subject and pushed all problems forward for future generations to solve.

We are now investing in green energy, housing and addressing the migrant issues, cutting on welfare, but all those issues could also have been addressed 30 years ago.

>can't just move here without permission of locals
>moves into other parts of the world without permission of locals to take their coffee
???

Depends how you define right wing.
Japan is rightwinged as fuck in comparison to us but their only problem is that they dont make children because its so comfortable not to.

There are many shades of right and left, some nativism should be possible in the 21th century espeacially if you are a very specialised market that does not need much import of "human ressources" like denmark fkr example.

> the decisions the generation before us made don't make any sense in hindsight

This is exactly the point I'm making. Hindsight is 20/20. We're making big mistakes now too... You touch on many of them later in your comment but ignore many overlooked ones. And there definitely are issues we aren't even aware are unfolding before our eyes.

It's too easy to reflect and criticize the mistakes of the past and it's so difficult to address and anticipate the mistakes of the future

That's the law of the jungle.

Do you wanna make him feel guilty for his nation acting in its interest?
May be backhanded yes, but the principle behind why it was good for them doesnt change just because they violated it themselves for someone else.

Its not an argument but whataboutism.

>Hindus want more power and fear being outbred
Meh, that's a poor explanation. Hindus birthrates don't really differ from Muslim ones. Hindus nationalists don't like and attack Christians too btw despite the latter are pretty irrelevant group in India.
You don't live in isolated world, and trends in countries surrounding you were influencing you and echoing in your country, especially if you are a small country like Netherlands. And they all had world wars, great depression, revolutions and wars all the XIXth century etc.
>kemal
Well, he was nationalist, but he was progressive. I mean, his accomplishments stemmed mostly from secularism, bringing the education and creating economy, not from genociding Greeks and so.

Im saying he needs to find a different principle instead of committing doublethink in his post. If he instead just said "I dont like brown people" i wouldn't have criticized.

That's true. And the people who rule now and don't act on the problems that we can already anticipate will probably end up being frowned upon in the future as well.

Trump is not right-wing

Nationalists are not right-wing, nationalism is an anti-traditional force.

Theresa May seems more left-wing than David Cameron. I mean, Cameron was more liberal but more economically right-wing.

It wasn't. Back in the days it was physically impossible to move here for non-white people.
And we still can make it impossible if we so desire. Although the there is now a lack of will.
The fact that we could force ourselves on them despite their wishes doesn't change that.

>Islamists chimping out all over the MENA.

And across europe. That's why there's so much right wing momentum everywhere else. Because muslims are chimping out, and leftists are defending them, so naturally, people are becoming more right wing.

It's always Islam.

It's always the Russians who use logic in these kinds of threads while the rest just memes. Kinda weird honestly

You'll notice that whenever there's a push from the far left, or Any authoritarian force for that matter, you'll notice there's an equal yet opposite reaction.

As for what's going on? Chaos, m8.

Absolute chaos

Mexico might be an exception, given our own particular history (a 20th century regime brought about by the Mexican revolution and its ideals) nationalism trends strongly left in oposition to a traditionally pro-American right wing. Regardless of the results in the coming American election there will definitively be a backlash to Trump's rethoric, especially given weariness with the war on drugs and anti-Mexican stances in the US. Unfortunately, and I say this as a leftie myself, we don't have good options on that front with a Chavez style personality cult having hijacked our left wing oposition.

People are tired of all the greed that has prevented economic growth from trickling down and of government incompetence and corruption, a bad economic scenario would certainly make things unsustainable.
We might go old school pseudo-commie soon enough.

Well, economy is only a part of the whole political position.
>green energy, housing and addressing the migrant issues, cutting on welfare, but all those issues could also have been addressed 30 years ago
I don't see you solve them now. I mean, I haven't seen western countries who have solved these problems, except, maybe green energy being a bug thing now. You have made your immigration laws more tight but you have many immigrants already, and I haven even heard about housing and welfare issues solved anywhere in the West. Well, maybe France and Britain are okay with integration, Brits did Brexit etc but others suck balls.

Its not, hindu birthrates are falling, muslim dont do as much.
Ofc they hate christians as these aggressivly proselytize which is seen as a foreign attack on their country.
A deep rooted mistrust since the mughals wanted to destroy hinduism and the british dreamed of a christian india, producing literature made to discredit the native religions while trying to educate native elites as christians.

Also nobody wants american proddyniggers founding jesuscults in your countryside.

>but he was progressive
Duuuude check out the spring of nations in europe, nationalism begun as a movement in favour of secularism so of course most of its proponements, be it arab baathists, gaullists or the kuomitang-while varring wildly in their extend of authoritanism and religious questions-had an overally progressive and laizist message in comparison to the theocrats and feudalists.

>he doesnt know the Netherlands is going to MH17 the Russian economy

shell.com/media/news-and-media-releases/2015/shell-to-install-nationwide-network-hydrogen-vehicle-fuelling-pumps-germany.html

We're now working on tax reforms and reforming pretty much all our social laws. But its a work on progress.
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-king-willem-alexander-declares-the-end-of-the-welfare-state-8822421.html

>le neo-liberal maymay
Are you gonna talk about the bourgeoisie too?

They are following the major shift. Islamists became active in Europe only with all this ISIS shit, since a few years ago. They are also a very minor political force, neonazi tier. Also Latin America had no interaction with Muslims at all, not talking about islamists, yet they face the same process.
>muslims are chimping out, and leftists are defending them
Leftists defend freedom of religion, not Muslims. And not leftists, but a liberals, leftists are mostly secularists. Lol, mayor of London is Pakistani yet supports gay marriage. And no one in the West sympatizes to islamists, the latter are ultraconservative movement which has no support from any side, right or left.

>leftists defend them

Rojava would disagree with you on that

The left became victim of their own success.

They achieved everything they set out to do.

Now all that is left for them is minority politics.

Which pisses off the majority and rightfully so.

Now everything has to be torn down, so it can be built back up again.

It's theee citcle of life.

Liberals defend freedom of medieval brainwashing.

A true leftist fights religion and especially Islam.

Both Marx and Lenin specifically called out Islam as the enemy of the left.

>#notallleftists

This is what I am talking about. Average pol user doesn't recognize the difference between leftists and liberals. For example, many western leftists are fighting islamism in Rojava now.
Maybe it's true in Europe. But we see it worldwide while there are tons of things which could be fixed by the left wingers. I mean, here in Russia we have a nude capitalism with no welfare and so but we have this right shift here too. Same goes to Arabs, Indians etc.

they showed us that extremes are always without exception awful

like I used to be so idealistic that I thought all of this left politics was utopian, but when it's actually put into practice you just end up seeing lazy cunts riding on the backs of the able-minded, and people actually fighting and lobbying for law that is based around the way it makes people feel and not justice or reason.

I mean I didn't think the Bush years were good, but we've rubber banded and ended up in this weird race baiting transgender dystopia without any real benefit. People are still obese, the infrastructure is still in disrepair, the education and job system is failing, and despite all of this we're opening the flood gates to any Nigerians and Bangladeshis who want to come live here. That's aside from the ten million people who live here illegally, the media insists they're NOT CRIMINALS regardless of how their being here impacts American workers and their wages and labor rights.

I just think that is what happened. The left pulled too far and now everybody hates them.

don't think you get it. Hillary is absolutely going to win regardless of what you think about her. And only countries in europe that are truly right wing are eastern european shitholes

No, I wouldn't. Are you saying Reinfeldt was a leftist? It was his politics that opened the flood gates. Something Carl Bildt made possible in the early 90s after he overruled Ingvar Carlsson's "Luciabeslutet". Reinfeldt contributed way more than pretty much any other politician to ruining our political climate.

Yes, I'd say he was a socialism-shilling leftist.

Oh, so you're a fucking retard. Okay, I'm sorry I wasted my time.

Not an argument.

>nude capitalism with no welfare
Isnt that more of a corruption and syndicate problem then a capitalist problem?
America and Singapore arent perfect societies but they still achieved some greater wealth without much welfarr but lots of capitalism.

Also you are wrong with arabs only recently being theocratic, the saudis have been like this for the last 500 years and they now have power in the region due to oil and thus project their power on magrehbians and mesopotanian arabs.

Rojava is a leftist posterboy but you dont see them doing much against muslim brotherhood like structures in the west which have been growing since the 90s.

Elaborate please. I am not into Swedish politicians but would like to know more.
>we're opening the flood gates to any Nigerians and Bangladeshis who want to come live here
It's a meme, USA is really difficult country to move to and this year you have even banned Nigeria in DV lottery which is the main way to come to USA.
Also Bush was a real moron in my opinion, Obama is way better. He has fixed your economy at least.
USA and Europe are only a part of my question. I am actually more interested to know why is it happening everywhere. Americans are simply tired of Obama, Europe was rulled by the left wingers since 70s (with exceptions like Thatcher of course) so they are just tired too. But what's with Russia, India, Arabs, many others?

Actually Austria had a right wing coalition in the 00s.

They are the ones that imported 30.000 chechens which were the worst group of people until 80.000 Afghans invaded last summer.

Now they stab each other in parks, subway stations and other public places, when they are not busy playing sharia police, raping 70 year old women or foreign exchange students.

>arabs
living in theocratic poor shitholes. Some are rich I suppose, but the younger and well educated people are already much more liberal than their leaders. Any real rebellion is supressed because usa is usually allies with the current leaders, or has already fucked up the country beyond saving
>russia
us becoming more right wing is a reaction to the west increasing liberalization, just another scapegoat so putin and co. can control us more. our education system is pretty good so I don't think many vatniks will exist in maybe 30 years

The internet happened, and I don't imply that Sup Forums or Sup Forums has made a lick of difference.
People consume media in a completely different manner than ever before and it has created a new mindset.

>greater wealth without much welfarr but lots of capitalism
Well, our problems stem both from capitalism and corruption. Our nude capitalism combines both, eradicating one would improve the situation significantly.

>Also you are wrong with arabs only recently being theocratic, the saudis have been like this for the last 500 years and they now have power in the region due to oil and thus project their power on magrehbians and mesopotanian arabs.

Well, I am int level expert on MENA affairs and I would dare to say I know something about that region. I made few lections on int about the issue, but a long story short political islam became major political power only in 70s. Saudis were not the least but weren't also the major force in this process. It happened because arab nationalism and leftism which both were the major political forces among arabs before have discredit themselves because of defeat in a five day war and their economical policies which were total fail. But the major political islam chimpout happened few years ago, after Arab spring and destruction of Iraq by Americans. There was also chimpout in Maghreb in 90s but it was defeated by Algeria and now Maghreb is pretty okay 2bh. Also 500 years ago Saudis were just a rich clan in Arabian peninsula ruled by Turks.

Reinfeldt was the leader of the swedish Moderate Party (our cons, basically) and prime minister between 2006 and 2014. At the start of his term it was decided that the moderate party would recieve the support of the green party for their budget and in exchange would be adopting the green party's immigration politics (that by extension became the politics of the moderates). The Green Party which, in 2006, recieved 5,2% of the national vote and is pro-mass immigration. Reinfeldt then pushed these mass immigration policies into the mainstream for the 8 years he was PM. After Sweden made it out relatively unscathed from the financial crisis in 2008, the media hailed Reinfeldt and his minister of finance as geniuses. Falsely, I might add, because Reinfeldt and his buddy's plan to avoid a crisis of our own consisted of privatising (ie selling) several state run monopolies and companies. Ontop of that they relied a lot on the safety measures put in place by the previous social-democratic minister of finance and laterprime minister after the swedish recession of the 90s. The social democrats which in the late 80s passed a bill that declared that Sweden would not accept more than the refugee quotas from the EU in order to protect the welfare state.

TL;DR: neo-liberal leader of the cons pushed mass immigration politics as a way to maintain his power, letting politics that originally weren't supported by more than 5% of the pop take over mainstream media and ruin our climate for public debate for a decade.

Mh I agree with you.
But peninsula arabs were never secular was what I was saying, baathism only took off in the levant and the magrehb.
So they never got more "rightwinged" in anyway while you can speak of such a developement in the rest of the muslim world as you explained quiet well tho.

>The social democrats which in the late 80s passed a bill that declared that Sweden would not accept more than the refugee quotas from the EU in order to protect the welfare state.
A bill that was turned over during the moderate party's brief stay in government in the mid 90s by Reinfeldt's predecessor, Carl Bildt.

Forgot to add that

The "populist right" is in many cases a populist left.
The reason why populists are on the rise is because of lack of new political ideas and centrism has created a political class that is far too homogenous to be representative.
The paradigm of capitalism, democracy and liberalism (left and right) has remained unchallenged for too long.
People feel railed into a future not of their choosing. So they vote for political diversity.

I don't agree with it, but I "get it".

Foes your green party also come from the 68er turnout?
Since I watched Yuri's vid I sometimes wonder if we were so retarded to come up with this all by ourselves back then or if it was some soviet shenangian to fuck us up as many green liberals had rosetinted glasses towards the redbloc.

Do you wan't more examples of countries built on nationalism? Why don't you just look to your neighbout and take a hint you dumb slav.

>Rojava is a leftist posterboy but you dont see them doing much against muslim brotherhood
Well, what can they do about predominantly Egyptian political party? They are in Syria.
>30k
Well, this is a meme number but why did they do it if they were right wing?
>living in theocratic poor shitholes
Theocracy is a thing only in Gulf states, other arab countries aren't theocracies.
>the younger and well educated people are already much more liberal than their leaders
Youth in these states is divided. Many are liberal, and in Maghreb countries it's a biggest group among youth I would say. But there are huge rise of Islamists still, especially after Arab spring. Compared to the West, I wouldn't say that altrights are the biggest political force among youth but it's still very big. Islamists are analogue of altrights in MENA.

Yeah, our green party is a meme. Funny thing is that they formed government with the social democrats in 2014 and were strongarmed into accepting some of the harshest immigration laws in Europe. One of their two party leaders literally cried a bit during the press conference when they announced it.

They're hypocrites about everything from the environment to women's rights. With the way the polls are looking right now, it's possible they won't even make it into parliament in 2018 (sub-4% of the votes)

THe irony that western lefties don't want to face is that Kurd nationalists are in fact Nationalists and are often more conservative than regular Syrians/Iraqis. I kek when I see anarchists get a boner for them especially cause they would be viewed as nothing but scum out there

Ok, but what makes you think that these Islamic chimpouts aren't also a reaction themselves to previous Western chimpouts???
Don't say "it's always Islam", there are also things that naturally trigger jihadism just like jihadism naturally triggered right-wing rise in Europe.
I don't understand why you guys are always so short-sighted. When I tell anti-Muslim Americans that American imperialism killed a lot more Muslims than Islamic terrorism have killed Americans, they always whine about 9/11 and how Muslims brought this upon themselves. But in truth, 9/11 itself was a response to mainly USA blockade of Iraq in the 90's that resulted in 3 millions of people dying due to starvation.
And of course I am not saying that these terrorist attacks are justified, however, they are understable. Perhaps if I was put in the same situation that these terrorists were put into as they were kids and teenagers, perhaps I would have become a terrorist too. Of course it's not right and never justified. But I understand them as much as I understand the skyrocketing hate crimes against Muslims in UK today.

The constant war of ideas on social media is making everyone paranoid and angry. Paranoid and angry people tend to vote for nationalist/authoritarian parties.

In the UK atleast, the mainstream media (All of Murdoch's new corp companies) operate on the pics principle pretty much, with the non English being the scapegoat, all of them, not just the bad apples. Hence the rise in hate crimes. The proletariat vote always swings the way of the tabloid papers, which with how close our two main parties are its enough to decide an election. Hence why Labour used to be the dominant party until the Sun newspaper switched sides for Thatcher

>Kurd nationalists are in fact Nationalists and are often more conservative than regular Syrians/Iraqis
Lolno, learn more about them. They repeat all the captions in Arabic, have Arab units among them and they force strict secularism. Kurds as nation are really conservative but kurdish communists are fighting with it.
It's wrong to blame media. Serious political shifts aren't caused by media only. Germany has mostly centrist or left wing medias yet they face huge rise of AfD. Medias have influence but it's not dominant.