Int, what all these European right wingers who are rising in Europe now propose to do?

Int, what all these European right wingers who are rising in Europe now propose to do?
They wanna stop the immigration. Okay, despite they may reduce their economy development by that, but having ethnic tensions is worse. But they have significant amounts of 2nd+ generation immigrants who have citizenship and so. What are they going to do about it? Especially mentioning their conservative agenda would prevent them from assimilation.
They wanna be conservative, okay. But how can they make people go to church if they don't want it? Gays are pretty like 7% of population, they will severely oppose any attacks on gay marriage, especially if they have common property etc.
And so, and so. What are they going to do?

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Well the more peaceful method would just be birth control. Like in China.

Let's say arabs can't have more than 1 kid/couple.

Then, we take away the child-welfare from the brown people and give it to the white people, so they can afford more than 2 kids.

Here, problem solved. In general fixing the problems isn't a problem, the real problem is being willing to do it even if you think it makes you a bad person, a racist, or whatever

>Gays are pretty like 7% of population,
Whaaaat seriously ?? I thought it's like 0,1%
Anyways gays much like jews support the fn because they're scared muslims would behead them
So i say the gay problem has been subverted and settled already in this country

FN is not real right wing party, in OP post I was talking more about AfD and so. FN are not conservatives and so, they are actually anti-immigration left wingers with secularism, welfare state, social justice and so.
>birth control
It doesn't matter, after 2 generation immigrant birthrates are pretty similar to locals everywhere. And France has no problems with birthrates at all, your mother support system is great.

Also even if there were actual right wing parties with such a proposals it would not mean anything. Conservative policies would prevent them from integration while number of immigrant population would remain. Also how would you define an Arab? What if he is from mixed family? Such an idea is unrealistic.

Well yeah i think those should copy the FN more t b h

Also
>Conservative policies would prevent them from integration
Meh i'm not sure so far the overtolerant approach doesn't work at all meanwhile the more conservative way to view arabs, like Soral's, is somehow much better received by arabs

>Also how would you define an Arab?
Approximatively so

>What if he is from mixed family?
Then it's ok. Racemix is fine it whitens and assimilate the arabs population, the issue is when arab marries arabs and shit out 20 kids together

>more conservative way to view arabs, like Soral's, is somehow much better received by arabs
Of course he is received well because it allows them to stay in mental retardness with religion and traditions. If you treat them like that they would never integrate and would be like Jews in pre-WWII Europe.
>the issue is when arab marries arabs and shit out 20 kids together
It's rare shit, you know. Birthrates aren't problem (and they don't really differ). The problem is that they shouldn't make up insular communities, they should assimilate, accept le degenerate values and so. Instead conservatives are the real multiculturalists because they urge them to stay with their traditions which can't help with integration no way.
My opinion that immigrant problem in Europe should be solved through mixing them with local population and settling them among the local population, so they would receive more and more progressive agenda and lose backwardness, religiosity etc.

>what all these European right wingers who are rising in Europe now propose to do?
Whatever their kremlin puppetmasters tell them to do.

Vova doesn't care about domestic policies of foreigners, he just want them to put down the sanctions.

>significant amounts of 2nd+ generation immigrants who have citizenship and so
Funnily enough a big percentage of those vote right wing

Afd is a joke m8

Segregate communities with not well accepted cultural background like what China have been doing for centuries?

>Assimilation
That could work but it takes long time and target group's low acceptance could extend the period of time required

People close the door behind them, it's obvious. Also many may like anti-gay, conservative stances. Russian immigrants often vote right wing because of the latter.
But they are a good representation of an average right wing party in Europe. Also they are becoming popular, aren't they?
>Segregate
Which creates huge problems USA faces until now. Segregated communities become cradle of crime, poverty etc. Segregation and insular communities are the worst things possible.

>so they would receive more and more progressive agenda and lose backwardness
Implying westerners won't become backward instead.
youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Face it, your egalitarian world view leads to degradation.

>westerners won't become backward instead.
Lol, how do you imagine it? Westerners would adopt retarded customs and become religious? It's pure bullshit. More developed cultures always influence less developed, not the opposite. Black people worldwide act like American blacks, and American blacks aren't interested in cannibalism and walking nude.

What are you even talking about towards the end? I'm all for freedom, justice, unity and peace....for white people. I don't care if people go to church, or gays get married, or anything like that. Just make a law that says "Syrians not welcome" and that's the end of it.

Simple. Remember the old Russian saying

"Only mass executions can save the Motherland"

>American blacks aren't interested in cannibalism and walking nude.
i have some doubts about that
they definitely are interested in walking nude, now cannibalism is only one step away

Leave the EU

I am asking how do they propose to problems West has. You know, Syrians aren't the only problem of Germany. You had big immigrant population before them too. And the immigration is not the only problem you have. Low birthrates, lack of specialists, EU issues.
I don't think any western right wing party proposes genocide. Yet I remember in 90s you had an idea of exiling immigrants using transport jets. Yet I don't think getting rid of up to 10% of your population many of whom are decent and influential people possible and would have positive effects on your economy.

You did it already. What's next? I've heard Theresa is pushing conservative ideas about le traditional values now and wants to rebuild British nation including Poles and Indians into it.

>would have positive effects on your economy
See, it would reduce unemployment, social security deficit and lower housing prices

The last part is why it won't happen.

>Yet I don't think getting rid of up to 10% of your population many of whom are decent and influential people possible and would have positive effects on your economy.

We should just replace them with americans

As you know, america is only 60% white
Hillary will win and when she's done, america will be like 40% white with no way to win elections

At this point white americans will have to go since they will start getting peresectued

And as we know americans are uneducated and brainwashed into submission since birth, which makes them perfect for menial jobs that Europeans are too good to do

So we welcome them back into europe, and we replace the brown underclass with the american underclass

Et voila, problem solved

Yes, so that we don't have to "discriminate" against the rest of the world i.e. the commonwealth i.e. India and Pakistan.

I propose to take in as much Russians as Americans for balance.

we should totally pit them in gladiatorial matches while we're at it

>Lol, how do you imagine it? Westerners would adopt retarded customs and become religious?
Sure, it's the current year, they will do that in the name of diversity.

>More developed cultures always influence less developed, not the opposite.
Influence is a funny way to put it. Superior cultures have always treated others as trash, and alien populations as subhumans. They also enslaved them if they could.
Basically if you're weak others will rather abuse than help you. It's like the fundamental law of life.

If you guys offered a decent paying job with socialized healthcare and a country made up of mostly white people quite a few Americans would come. Actually who the fuck am I kidding, you don't even have to pay us well since we'll work for basically anything.

you'll work 12 hours a day 6 days a week too since apparently that's the norm in your china-tier country

and on top of that you're white (somewhat)

you're perfect, come here

Nice memes. But it's working different way. People adopt more rich and developed cultures, cultures the most promoted ones. It has nothing to do with being arrogant faggot. No one adopted Viking culture, no one adopts African cannibal tribes cultures. Barbarians adopted Roman culture on the other hand, people all over the world is adopting American culture now (dude, we live in Russia and see at every year, our youth is westernized as hell) etc, etc.
I tried to be serious, stop memeing. Also Russians aren't better than Romanians and Poles you don't like.

>Nice memes.
no u.

>Barbarians adopted Roman culture
And it didn't end well for the Romans. That's was my point.

>And it didn't end well for the Romans
It was not the reason. The reason were civil wars and transformation to feudalism. Barbarians haven't changed anything culturally, but adopted Roman culture themselves and assimilated fast.

Funny enough, I genuinely wasn't memeing. People would absolutely move to Europe to work menial labor jobs. You forget America still has a relatively large white, blue collar working class. A lot of them would gladly trade America for decent healthcare and not having to worry about being broke and on the streets. Plenty of us still do menial labor jobs like fencing, plumbing, landscaping etc.

the only correct answer is that its already too late

>despite they may reduce their economy development by that

Oh fuck off. Do you really think all decisions of the nation should be made in terms of what yields the most profit to corporations?

>Especially mentioning their conservative agenda would prevent them from assimilation

On the contrary. They will feel no pressure to assimilate with "tolerance". And they MUST assimilate. That is out of the question.

All right-wing parties are corporate cocksuckers they just find different ways to masquerade it

>People adopt more rich and developed cultures, cultures the most promoted ones

Yeah but in turn it dilutes those "higher" cultures.
Also I think it's a huge stretch to say that Russians in Russia are fucking assimilating into Americans. If you really believe that, it seems to me you'd be an anti-globalist.

In what way exactly?

If the government is all about traditions and conservatism, everyone would keep their traditions and no assimilation would happen. Putin Russia or Tsar Russia are good examples.
>Russians in Russia are fucking assimilating into Americans
Young generation adopts your customs pretty well. People watch American cartoons and movies since childhood, listens to your music, wear your clothes. And shit like that is happening worldwide, we face retarded westernization everywhere.
>you'd be an anti-globalist
I am not globalist nor anti-globalist (the first are usually retarded liberals and the latter are retarded leftists). I just want to figure out what do different political forces propose to solve the problems the West is facing (really interested in the West because I consider moving there myself). Right wingers either support populist unrealistic ideas or try to act like it's 19th century. Left wingers just blame neoliberalism and support protectionism, local industry etc ignoring cultural issues and not realizing we live in a world of corporations now and it's impossible to oppose neoliberal ideas because world economy is based on them now.

>They wanna stop the immigration. Okay, despite they may reduce their economy development by that
I think most of the right wingers don't want to close the borders completely but to stop the 3rd world mass immigration.
How is that harmful to economy? It's just a marxist-multiculturalist claim that European economies are going to revert without 3rd world social tourists.

>but having ethnic tensions is worse
How does stopping the mass immigration create ethnic tensions?
Ethnic tensions are created by mixing ethnicities. Where's your logic?


In general, you're speaking like this reckless race mixing was some kind of inevitable destiny.