This is the skyline of Brazil's 8th largest city, with a population of 1.7 million people (3...

This is the skyline of Brazil's 8th largest city, with a population of 1.7 million people (3.5 million including the metro area). Say something nice about it.

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I like that bird

it's the best capital of brazil

>TFW the 8th largest city of Brazil has a much better skyline than any city in Central america (except Panama city)

Actually it looks really nice. Is Curitiba safe?

Eh, stats say it has one of the highest murder rates in the world but more than 70% of murders are directly related to drug trafficking and use.

So which Brazilian city would be the best and safest choice?

I believe São Paulo is the safest state, the capital is kind of a shithole in a big metropolis kind of way but there are plenty of comfy smaller cities there.

It's still Brazil tho so don't expect euro-tier safety anywhere.

Also I should point out that Curitiba is often considered the city with the best quality of life despite the murder rate thanks to its urban planning and such, it's also cheaper than SP.

The city is okay, people not so much,

I said that already that the skylines of most large Brazilian cities (particularly the coastal ones) give it a 1 st world country look. I don't know if any other country in SA has that many high rise condos. For example Fortaleza is one of the most dangerous cities in the world but its skyline awesome.

Well, I learn Brazilian Portuguese so I obviously want to visit Brazil, SP was my first choice, there are numerous flights to this city and they seem to have really pleasant weather in winter, but some Brazanons told me that SP may be not the best choice, for example due to high prices. Curitiba has large Polish community, so I was obviously interested, but it's harder to get there.

the trees do a good job of obscuring the favelas

user with graphs and shit here.
Pic related is a 2 years old homicide rate chart (1/100k ha)
So..

1) Santa Catarina
2) São Paulo
3) Roraima
4) Tocantis
5) Mato Grosso do Sul

Overall, since São Paulo is by far the most populous and developed of the bunch, I'd pick it without thinking twice if I were you

Colombia is like that too

Murder rate may not be that important, for example I was in Moscow where they have about 1500% more murders than in my city, but I never felt threatened, usually these crimes are commited among drunken "friends" or among some gangsters.

He asked for a city not a State you retard.

SP has very hihg living costs the closer you get both from the center (i.e. google "centro expandido" ) and from the Alphaville region.
Countrisidish places tend to me much cheaper

Good luck finding a city by city chart like that.
I threw in the best next thing backed up with actual data, from which anyone could infer a city's violence index from its parent state, you ignorant gaucho.

It really depends on what you want to do.
Tourism (beaches and cool sights): Santa Catarina, Rio, Northeast
Ecotourism (forests and shieet): North
Living or urban tourism: São Paulo, Paraná

same in Atlanta the crime rate is pretty high like similar to Rio's but it's not that bad just don't walk around in the ghetto and don't do drugs
i have walked around in the ghetto though and also walked from downtown to midtown at 1 am it took me about an hour
When i got to midtown the gaybars were letting out so the streets were filled with drunk gays who scared away the hobos made it easier for me to get to my hotel

Yea, probably SP would be the best choice. BTW, why were these numbers growing during that Lula's prosperity era? I thought that during his presidency some social problems like poverty were significantly reduced, no?

>Say something nice about it
I can't, it's full of brazilians

This picture shot of it looks nice at least. You use it for ads?
Pretty much. The tourist areas tend to be safer.

>anyone could infer a city's violence index from its parent state, you ignorant gaucho.
This has to be the most retarded shit I've read today.

Whatever makes you sleep tight at night mate

Kek, I didn't know that drunken gays are that scary.

poor shits moving into the cities
Fertility boom
lack of jobs once the favelas fill up with out of state folks
Brasilfags please correct me if i'm wrong

You also find a large number of polish people here in the south, more precisely here in Porto Alegre - Rio Grande do Sul.

He didn't do shit about crime but poverty did decrease but no thanks to him really, the commodities boom was the real boon.

At least people aren't starving in the Northeast anymore.

i met like 12 homophobic homeless guys so they are scared of gay people for some reason one guy asked me to help him beat up a gay guy i said "i'm tired"

>I said that already that the skylines of most large Brazilian cities (particularly the coastal ones) give it a 1 st world country look.

Maybe because your definition of first world skyline is wrong.

First world skyline is something like Shanghai. Beautiful and striking, it catches your eye immediately.

A bunch of high rises and some trees isn't a first world skyline, since there hundreds of third world cities that have a skylines like that, including Nigeria and South Africa.

If you speak the language you will be able to have fun about anywhere, going to bigger cities will be better if you have friends to show you around (and avoid getting trouble). but it all depends on what you are aiming for.

If you look for sun and beaches, go to the north.
If you are looking for a cultural trip, Rio and São Paulo (and perhaps Curitiba) are the best choices.
Looking for a comfy countryside, travel around Minas Gerais, or maybe down south in Rio Grande do Sul.
Indeed Paraná have a huge polish community, but I don't know how much they care about their heritage.

What do you expect to find in SP? It's a grey sprawl. You would be better visiting Curitiba indeed, but If I were visiting another country I would like to experience exotic things, so places like Rio Grande do Sul, Rio, Pernambuco, Bahia or MG would be much better choices.

Bill gates said Brazil is one of the few counties that went from very underdeveloped to intermediate levels at sonic speed
So you guys have so much potential but your politics are retarded seems like every party in Brazil is stupid

>seems like every party in Brazil is stupid
Yeah, you`re right.

That's a popular park, but the most famous spot is the botanical garden.

Curitiba has a fucking lot of parks and stuff, I'm actually at walking distance from the park in OP's pic.

youtube.com/watch?v=3POKLGqfU_0
This is the most voted deputy from São Paulo.

Wow interesting stats.
Rio Grande do Nord: a 5 fold increase in 10 years? Yet the average homicide rate pretty much remain the same. How can that be? Sounds like murder rates get "redistributed" across different states, going up and down while remaining the same on average? So weird.

Nobody actually knows.
Personally I'd wager that the social discrepancies have gotten even more accentuated in the past few years and that got to be one of the chief factors for the violence index raising throughout the country.
Lula and his party just focused on the very poor and most miserable of the bunch but as they say: when you focus so much in the tree you risk ending up missing the whole forest surrounding it

I went to middle school and high school with this guy whose family was from Curitiba. I had no idea that he was Brazilian because he was white (I was stupid at the age of 11). He would make fun of me because I used to be fat around the ages of 11-16, but after we got older he became a pretty nice guy. He's a stoner who didn't graduate high school, but pretty cool dude.

Oh really, thanks, I will need to check it out.

I'm a basic bitch so i'm just going to Rio
maybe he should too
O_O
whenever i'm frustrated with american politics i should just watch this video
wouldn't this be due to migrations to Rio and Sao Paulo?

Just bringing in some delicious (you)s because why not

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That's exactly what happens, a state tightens up security and the criminals migrate to other states.

federal deputy*
The second biggest city in the country (Rio de Janeiro) just elected a pentecostal bishop as mayor.
You are right. Crime during the 90's 00's was concentrated in the cities of Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo, but they spread out. Those are the two richest places in the country (both cities and States) so in time they managed to make a great advance, however other parts which weren't as rich saw a explosion in crime rates and didn't have the money to deal with it, so the results were catastrophic, specially in the northeast.

Yes, I know, there were some migrations from that proverbial Eastern Poland in the late 19-early 20th century.

This kind of stuff is some sort of daily reminder to me that we're still a good whooping 50 years or so from becoming a serious country.

And he happens to be the most honest and level-headed politician we have.
Really makes you think.

>whenever i'm frustrated with american politics i should just watch this video
I wish I was joking mate, but the masse of Brazilians managed to impress me with their dumbness from time to time. He was the most voted deputy with the following slogan:
"Vote em Tiririca, pior do que está não fica" transl. "Vote on Tiririca, it won't be worse than now". Sad, but true.

>The second biggest city in the country (Rio de Janeiro) just elected a pentecostal bishop as mayor.
i saw that absolutely disgusting just stay catholic do not adopt the turbo retarded Protestant evangelicalism

We regressed. Brazil was much better in the past. From 64 to now was downhill morally speaking. I blame the boom of our population. Too many uneducated brats being throw to the world.

>Bill gates said Brazil is one of the few counties that went from very underdeveloped to intermediate levels at sonic speed

Actually not much has changed in 30 years.

It's just that the poor people of this country were so poor, that giving them 30 dollars per month was enough to make a huge difference in inequality statistics.

But in terms of infrastructure, it still the same shit. I have a house in a place that still hasn't been paved, the neighborhood i'm living in right now, only got pavement in 2003 and it has always been considered a "middle class" neighborhood. It's also worth mentioning i live in the 3rd most developed state of Brazil. So i can only imagine how bad it is in the other states which are less developed than mine.

>facepalm
is he missing some teeth? maybe it is a speech defect.

Eu não falo, só estou aprendendo, posso ler algumas artigas em periódicos, mas não entendo todas programas de TV, isso não é tão facíl.
For me everything in Brazil is interesting and exotic. I only know that I can´t go north of SP because temperatures are too high for me, even in winter.

Thing is... are you planning to settle in or you'd rather just tour a bit and then go back to your country?
Because if you are actually planning on living in Brazil I can't stress enough that SP is by far the way to go.
If you take the former, then you can go nuts in whatever the other BRBRs (and general propaganda ofc) tell you to visit

if you take the latter*
my bad

>I can't stress enough that SP is by far the way to go.
It really depends on what he works with.

In that case you will like Curitiba, it's on top of a plateau so it's the coldest capital and cloudy most of the time.

But in the last 4 years the city really went downhill tbqh, the mayor was in full austerity mode so a lot of stuff was left abandoned and decaying, there's also lots of bums.

Not really no.
Education, Entertainment, Health, Infrastructure, Transport, Mobility, Technology, etc etc..
SP has it better than everybody else and he don't even need to take my word for it. The numbers are all spread out

>This kind of stuff is some sort of daily reminder to me that we're still a good whooping 50 years or so from becoming a serious country.
Many countries have meme-politicians like that, in Italy some comedian started a new party and became one of the most important figures, they even had one city where both candidates in presidential election were ex-porn stars

iceland,Germany,and Swedan have the pirate party
They might win in Iceland

>the mayor was in full austerity mode so a lot of stuff was left abandoned and decaying, there's also lots of bums.

So the city is finally going back to reality. Many Southern states have been on a lavish spending spree like money was never going to end and now they're all on the verge of a default.

Not exactly, Paraná is one of the states with a good credit rating this year, with SP having the highest debt.

Let me just vent out a bit of anger about this one.
I think he should be FORCED to wear his clown costume at all times while working in the congress since it was the character "Tiririca" that got elected by the masses, and not the Francisco Everardo wathever is his full name, wearing suits and all that.
This'd be like a token from the mediocrity of our political caste.

>are you planning to settle in
lol, no, I simply want to learn some Romance language and Portuguese seems to be the most interesting option - it has hundreds mln. speakers, but people rarely learn it. One year ago our only Intituto Camoes started CELPE-Bras exams, so I thought about it, but I'm still too weak, I need about one year and then I would like to visit Brazil with some better language skills, just for intellectual lulz
>But in the last 4 years the city really went downhill
Kek, I'm, as you say here, an oldfag and I have some vague memories related to communist Poland so it's really hard to scare me, video very related:
youtube.com/watch?v=JauDtDthLh0

very nice city, but I tried the local food and didn´t liked it at all (charque)

Noice.
So as I mentioned, go nuts with the hotspots then. Curitiba for instance, as the other user said, has some nice views.
Minas has some cool old cities, Salvador has some nice beaches, SP... has some nice beaches as well if you don't mind wading through trees and shit to get to the isolated ones.
Ilha Bela is prety cool too.

Yes, these parties were really strong at some point, I was surprised when I heard that they are still relevant in Iceland, generally speaking European politicians aren't much better - for example this is one of the most important figures in the European Parliament:
youtube.com/watch?v=wqATkCXxIXI
see video above, it could be worse, really

>a literal pedo
REEE ANARCHY NOW

Honestly, that Curitiba really doesn't look bad, quite the contrary

Kek, actually he is an anarchist:
>He soon joined the larger and classic nationwide anarchist federation Fédération anarchiste, which he left in 1967 in favour of the smaller and local Groupe anarchiste de Nanterre and the Noir et rouge magazine.