It's still legal in half of Europe to beat your kids

>It's still legal in half of Europe to beat your kids

Reminder that no study shows any benefit in this and every study say it's bad.

>inb4 I'M SO TIRED OF EXPERTS

My mother used to beat me and now I'm here in Sup Forums

Don't worry Jamal, I'm sure your government will adapt to your culture eventually.

nothing wrong with consensual parent-child BDSM
if the children weren't into it they'd leave

>implying that 4 years old babbie will understand anything but slap when you deny him newest pokemon toy and he starts yelling full rambo on whole shop in rage

>implying all kids are the same
>implying you can use reasoning all the time (pro tip: look at history or current happenings in world mate, and that are allway full grownups)

My parents beated me sometimes and I am glad now they did.

>no study
yea, because studies about subjective matters are alway objective
no study about subject != subject is wrong

Also mild physical punishment != turning your kid into punching bag

If you can't control a 4 year old without resorting to physical abuse you are failure at life.

That's why I prefer psychological torture

Yeah just lock your 4 year old in the cage and problem solved.

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But it's fun. You own your kids, why can't you do as you please with them?

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My father has beaten me since I was born, and I'm perfectly fine, except I hate him...beating is a way parents use to express the mistake they did when they decided not to use condom or other safe-sex measure...

Never got beaten, father only had to take out his belt for me stfu.

This, sadly there are a lot more failures than success stories when it comes to life. That's why we make things illegal in the first place.

I'm against beating kids in practice, but I against banning it.
The option should be there.

Yesterday I was watching a TV. A son sued his mother for throwing slipper at him. She is now charged for 5 years.

Btw it's not beating anyway. It's just a simple slap or a pulling the ear down.

t. Someone who never met 4 years old

My father used to beat me

Haven't talked with him since i move from home 5 years ago.

My dad used to beat me when I was a child sometimes pretty rough.

Now I have several mental issues.

I think it's not really a good thing to do.

Lawsuits put people in jail in Turkey?

I mean, having the wrong political opinions I get, but lawsuits?

Literally nothing wrong with slapping your child, unless you want to raise some feminine bitchboy

>teaching your child to be subservient under threat of physical violence WON'T make them a feminine bitchboy
I'd think that one over again m8

Most people in these kind of threads don't know what child abuse means . They think a slap on that face twice a year means a beating.

My father used to punch me in the stomach if i took even an 8 at school , I had only high grades during schools but i dropped out in the last year so i can get a job to get rent (cause i turned 18 ) just so i can get away.

Now that he's retired his pension is too small and called me for help . Telling him to go fuck himself was just beautiful .

Fuck yeah, you did it right, it's just bad you had to drop school right at the end, damn it
First time my dad beaten me, they have told me (i couldn't remember) had been when I was a crying baby, and he broke the diaper with hits...i can't forgive that man

All the beatings did was make me more paranoid

Based

My parents never hit me one in my life and i ended in Sup Forums
We should make it legal tb h

if beating my kids had a chance to prevent them from becoming alike pathetic swedish castrated hominidae, I'll give them a fucking beating every day

I grew up in a quiet and peaceful environment so i never really "learned" to be loud and throw tantrums when things didn't go my way, which is a big reason why parents never hit me
i could be a little shit mind ya, but my parents told me that usually just giving me timeouts and what not worked pretty well
that being said, there is a place for mild physical punishment in the home when necessary, but many of those homes are naturally violent and loud environments which is what creates a tantrum throwing nutcase of a kid in the first place

what really constitutes physical violence, though? the way i see it, there's a vast difference in slapping your kids ass because it tried to run in traffic, or kicking them down the stairs because they didn't properly clean their room. i think the former is perfectly acceptable

Once*

Ukraine is a better country than Belgium on this

really makes you consider things

This.
Should be forcibly sterilized desu.

>all from blue countries

hmm

reminds you of circumcision debates 2bh

I was never beaten by parents but I'm an undisciplined, lazy failure at life.
But I was beaten by my brother a lot, maybe that has something to do with it

Ahh yes, because for the thousands of years, all the men on earth were submissive and fragile. Only now in the current year, in the West, that we've abandoned corporal punishment, do we have a continent filled with alpha males

>people don't realise that exposing children to the kind of stress and pain associated with regular beatings can permanently alter the chemistry of their brain, much like victims of circumcision

>regular beatings
A slap to the back of the legs or head, is not a "beating"

>a reasonable and wise post on Sup Forums
>from Canada of all countries

I think some spanking / slapping is okay,
BUT, the problem is most people ( myself included mind you ) are unable to control their anger and a little spank can turn quickly into beating.
Never trust people to use physical punishment with moderation

Because that's the only type of corporal punishment there is right?

>the average parent will go wild with rage and leave their child bloodied and beaten if they give them just one little slap
Talking out your hole Pierre

;_; Do you really know?

Yes. Slapping your child in these countries is legal, punching your child is illegal in these countries

ah yes you can trust the typical runt who thinks hitting your children is fine with a reasonable level of beating

Non-Nordics, when will they learn? They aren't even socialist

That's not what I said

He is right, in the situations where spanking is appropriate the parent is usually really pissed and can't judge shit.
Stop being an armchair parent and think about the real life situations.

I certainly trust them more than you, a childless anonymous poster on this Hibernian Curtains online auction forum.
>hitting your children
>level of beating
Lets not twist words here, a slap is a slap. It leaves no bruise or cut, and the pain subsides almost immediately
Then why did you say?
No decent parent will vent their rage onto their children, you're thinking of parents who would already be abusive, and would beat their children regardless of the law

Imagine being so impotent that you hit a child hahahahaha

This. Violence is the lazy answer and it kind of works, but allowing it causes way more harm than good so a semitotal ban is the only way to go

>No decent parent will vent their rage onto their children, you're thinking of parents who would already be abusive, and would beat their children regardless of the law
2bh from my experience, the law is the last thing on even the best parent's mind when setting ethical boundaries and parenting styles within the household
they 99% of the time just follow what they have experienced themselves from either their parents or idolized guardians around them in their childhood

My father used to beat me up on the regular for 7 years starting at 4, and the only side effects were depressing me at an early age, making me target of bullying and leaving me emotionally scarred and socially stunted lmao.

At least last I don't watch anime.

It can happen to anybody to lose his temper, of course decent parents won't hit their child like a meatbag I'm just sayin' violence escalate easier than you might think.
It's kinda like driving drunk, it happened to me several times and nothing happens, yet it's illegal for a reason.

>At least last I don't watch anime.
Dodged a bullet there.

>ITT: people debating whether or not to beat your kids
Disciplining isn't beating them. And beating them isn't disciplining them.

>At least I don't watch anime

well, looks like he did good desu

>beat your kids
But...Sometimes it's really necessary.

Parents who don't discipline their kids must hate them.

I can confirm it doesn't work, my parents used to beat the shit out of me and now I'm a loser

Nothing wrong with little whack with a belt in extreme cases.
No shit beating the kid over everything doesn't work.

Light corporal punishment is a good thing if the kid goes out of line. We're still animals, we react and remember a lot more to a slap than being told "no". Limp-wristed modern parenting is a plague on society.

Might be because I'm Italian but while it should ideally be avoided, slapping your kid is absolutely not "too far".

>most people ( myself included mind you ) are unable to control their anger and a little spank can turn quickly into beating.

There is something wrong with you mate.

poofs in green

Eastern Europeans and shitskins will defend beating their kids

you ended up on an anime website though so it's the same.

>permanently alter the chemistry of their brain

Yeah that's the point, kids get shaped by their childhood, as they should. Light corporeal punishment teaches them to shape the fuck up and mature. It's like bullying, excessive bullying is bad but moderate "bullying" is something all kids are exposed to when among other kids and it helps them mature and grow. Had I grown up in a safespace shielded from everything, I'd be a limp-wristed faggot whose wife fucks refugees.

It's always necessary.

Beating teach pain and make them more resilient and more obedient, it also make make men and not pussies.

unless one is physically threatened i dotn see a reason to hit a kid.

I've never been beaten and now I'm here on Sup Forums

You're setting up a false dichotomy by assuming that the alternative to slapping your kids is them growing up as sheltered weaklings.

Corporeal punishment isn't there to be used all the time, only if it happens to be needed. If you preclude the option, the kids that did need a slap every now and then will keep their shitty ways and grow up into something insufferable.

Normally other kids would fix you up at school if you were too much of a shithead, but that is being forbidden too because nowadays banter and light scraps that are normal among children will get the parents, headmaster, police, military, EU, and NATO involved.

an easy slap or two can be useful when they're young and cannot understand
anything more than that shouldn't happen

Since when has it been the place of the government to decide how parents raise their children? This reminds me of that Norwegian family that had their children taken away for raising their children "too Christian".

The same question has been also asked in the United States.

In most of the United States, it is completely legal to refuse vaccination for your children for "religious" or "philosophical" reasons. Refusing immunizations is a lot more deadly than slapping your child when it misbehaves.

I can't even begin to imagine what constitutes "too christian" in Norway but there is no sense of too much Christianity here. The vast majority of home-schooled students are from evangelical families. If purposely isolating your children to live in a dream world of SuperChristianity(C)(TM) isn't child abuse, then I don't know what is.

I can't stay for certain whether Europe is moving in the right direction on child abuse. We're so far behind Europe that these issues are so alien to us.

>it's only become a problem now that the boomers are in academia
What a surprise

>>>Corporeal punishment
I understand that English may not be your first language but come on, man.

As opposed to corporal punishment.

They were taken away because their parents beat them; they even admitted to it.

incorporeal punishment is much more effective t b h

This is now a metaphysics thread

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Shut up you swedecuck. There's no problem for them to beat some discipline into their kids. Or else you're going to be walked all over by your kids and going to be one of those parents that are literally sent to an old folks home.

except kids are little shits and deserve to be beaten from dawn till sunset

My mum used to beat me and now im a sub trap, really makes you think

>This reminds me of that Norwegian family that had their children taken away for raising their children "too Christian".
>I can't even begin to imagine what constitutes "too christian" in Norway but there is no sense of too much Christianity here. The vast majority of home-schooled students are from evangelical families. If purposely isolating your children to live in a dream world of SuperChristianity(C)(TM) isn't child abuse, then I don't know what is

That was a meme. They were never taken away because the parents were "Too christian" They were taken away because they were beaten. The mother even admitted that she did beat them and that she didnt know the law was so strict on this.

>not pulling the ear up
what

Oh, I see. Was the meme, perhaps, perpetuated by Americans?

Are americans actively waging a hybrid war on norway and other nordic countries?

is that violence against me or ME

Yes. They think we're socialists despite actively fighting socialism for like half a century.

how? Be specific. My parents slapped/spanked me when i misbehaved but never went beyond that.

only slaps and spanks, no punches or things that can leave bruises

I didn't know it was illegal in Spain, our Prime Minister beat his kid on Live TV

This

Dad rarely slapped me, and when he did it was because I fucked up badly(like one time when we got a costly phone bill because I was secretly buying those stupid ringtones they promoted on tv back in the day).

I turned out alright I guess(college degree, etc...).

My cousin on the other hand was constantly slapped and spanked for the dumbest shit, and I'd say it affected him to a negative degree.

>t. childless cuck

waterboarding is ok?

It was perpetuated by pentecostals in Romania wich was where this family was from and it escalated from there