Ok lets be realistic for a second

Ok lets be realistic for a second
The show is over, he is elected
There is no changing that (well maybe)
What interests me is how people are going to react when all of his "promises" go into the drain
There is no fucking way to build a wall without going broke
There is no fucking way to deport all immigrants without losing billions of dollars in taxes created by them
There is no fucking way companies are going to bring their cheap labour into america, even with fees and restrictions its still cheaper to outside labour

He is a businessman, he knows he cant do any of that shit.
So how are people going to react when they find out he was full of shit? Full of false promises?

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>build a wall
make mejico pay for it
>tax loss
force neets to work
>cheap labor
tax reduction can make up for the increased labor cost

Mexico will not pay, NEVER, not one cent

Yes you will, you have no choice.

>he thinks white people want to work
TOP KEK

Yes, we do have a choice, we don't surrender, I know that's difficult for you to understand

honest question, why on earth would Mexico pay for it? I know memes are popular and all and everyone on here says USA bullies Mexico, and they do, but there is LITERALLY nothing USA can do to make Mexico build the wall.

and no, they wouldn't start a war over it.

sometimes, people aren't very smart

Most of those posting under the US flag on Sup Forums, are self-hating whites and millennial progressives of the following type:

youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c

They will try their best to undo the results. Do not let them! You must kill, rape and mutilate every white American aged 20-35 you can catch. They are millennial progressives and Hillary supporters.

>There is no fucking way to build a wall without going broke

Putin will help.

>There is no fucking way to deport all immigrants without losing billions of dollars in taxes created by them

Make soap and shoes out of them, that way you'll earn gazillions.

>There is no fucking way companies are going to bring their cheap labour into america

Conquer Europe, establish deathcamps = free labour.

>what are tariffs

>So how are people going to react when they find out he was full of shit? Full of false promises?+ 0 post omitted.
Everyone who supported him knew he wasn't gonna build a wall since the beginning.

Low quality bait.

They will react by not giving a chance to the second non-establishment candidate promising the same stuff. Just look at his speech, We need to thank Hillary for the amazing job she has done for our country. Sounds different than Ill lock her up. Sad, nothing will change.

>So how are people going to react when they find out he was full of shit?

Liberals will act smug. Cuckservatives will be angry. Neo-Cons will be delirious from power.

No you don't, fucking sudaca.
Your whole economy consists in selling shitty goods to the USA, Americans have the means of making you pay. You're simply their bitch.

THE WALL JUST GOT TEN FEET HIGHER!

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>sudaca

spotted the argie trying to false flag. also nice memes, Mexico is only afloat because US. lol

kinda like you and Germany.

I enjoyed your KIKEpost, It gave me the lulz. Not terribly bright are you?

Are you retarded? Did you even read my post?

Yes you will or we will tax your cheap shit when it comes in and no-one will buy it because it's too expensive.. You will go broke in 2 years or less. Your economy depends on exports to the US.. Pay for the wall or go broke. The choice is yours.

Please do explain, under any scenario it's bad for us, with Trump threatening NAFTA and our diaspora even if we were to pay we would do badly. Trump overplayed his hand we've got nothing to lose. And then there's his dismal understanding of Mexican history and politics, the US was traditionally seen as an enemy through most of our history, the real reversal in that is only a couple of decades old. No politician can accept the terms of a proposal the overwhelming majority of Mexicans find insulting, they would be hanged on the streets for treason the very next day, any government that would sign a deal with you is a government that collapses within a week.

You can destroy our country, and even that only to some extent, you will never be able to force us to pay. Trump can throw whatever he wants at us but he will never have a comitment from us to pay, he can't steal the wall's worth out of our country and any war would be far more expensive for him and CERTAIN to spill into the US.

Meanwhile with his pledge to denounce China as a currency manipulator he will start a trade war the US cannot win, he's even threatened NATO and is looked upon as encouraging the splintering of the EU. He will have no real friends or allies.

In the best case scenario things are going to get very expensive for the American consumer short term. Screenshot this, the US economy will badly underperform during this holiday season on just the expectation things will go sour soon. You wanted change you got it.

We will NEVER pay.

Have you attempted to read his plan which has been on his site from day one or are you one of these people who has been content to just say "WHY HOW WHAT" all this time

I did. you called a Mexican a sudaca, you talked about how a country is so dependent on another, which is rich coming from France.

the wall will happen because Trump wants it. but Mexico isn't building it, as it isn't them that want it, and there is zero reason for them to do so.

We'll go broke anyway, that was certain the second you elected Trump.

They need us as much as we need them, their economy might have been able to take the hit if they were going after us alone but Trump is also going after China, trading partners like Japan and Korea, and as per his Ghettysburg pkedge even after other trading partners like Brazil. Things are going to get very expensive for Americans without illegals on the fields or at the back of restaurants and with tariffs putting a premium on everything they import. If Trump does half the things t¿he pledged he would do within his first 100 days he will start a global recession. Good luck with that France.

Kek they are triyng to go to China for help
Just ask peruvians how that shit is working for them

>They need us as much as we need them
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Americans have convinced themselves that their. Global dominance is a product of internal strength rather than a network of diplomatic and economic arrangements.
That's why they think they can tell Mexico to build a wall, force China to give them back manufacturing and to tell Europe to pay 2%.

Everything south of the Rio Grande is a sudaca. All of you are the same.

It's different, unlike the Peruvians we have a common enemy and are not asking for money

>but there is LITERALLY nothing USA can do to make Mexico build the wall.
Trump could make an executive order to tax money transfers to mexico on day one m8.

>Have you attempted to read his plan
I've read it and it's retarded. Mexico is never going to pay. It would be political suicide for whichever party agreed to it. All they have to do is wait four years.

>That's why they think they can tell Mexico to build a wall, force China to give them back manufacturing and to tell Europe to pay 2%.
We actually can do all of this though.

>That's why they think they can tell Mexico to build a wall
Tariffs or taxing remittances/money transfers to mexilard land. They can't do anything about it and they pay for the wall.

>force China to give them back manufacturing
Force American companies to bring back manufacturing or we'll fuck them with tariffs*

>and to tell Europe to pay 2%.
You don't and we walk from NATO. I'm sure Russia would like to be bffs with us, and I'm equally sure the EU would pony up however much cash we demanded to stop it from happening.

It's easy to demand whatever you want when you literally hold all the cards.

Yes and people will stop using wire transfers and go to the underground economy. If there's one thing Mexico can do is informal economics.

Mexico doesn't have a choice, chucklefuck. Either they pay it or we make them.

There is literally NOTHING mexico can do to stop us from taxing money sent to their shithole, or from placing tariffs on goods coming to the US. NOTHING. It is entirely an internal American decision.

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As long as the dumb fuck doesn't fuck up in terms of global warming, then I don't give a fuck about what happens to the US.
Fuck your own country up, just don't be a retard and destroy the world for the rest of us.

>all of them will stop
A fraction of them will, maybe. Not enough to matter. You send so much money back home that we could set the tax at 10% and have the wall paid for in 4 years, before he even leaves office.

>There is no changing that (well maybe)
Not maybe
>There is no fucking way to build a wall without going broke
You honestly believe the wealthiest country on earth would go bankrupt from a fence?
>There is no fucking way to deport all immigrants without losing billions of dollars in taxes created by them
They cost more in taxes than they ever produce, not to mention the jobs they take from actual tax paying citizens
>There is no fucking way companies are going to bring their cheap labour into america, even with fees and restrictions its still cheaper to outside labour
Not when tariffs and incentives make that impossible. Just the corporate tax reduction from 39% to 15% would make a lot of business cheaper to manufacture in the U.S. once taking into account transportation costs.

We'll see. Him winning was already improbable enough so nothing is impossible at this point. If the Republicans want to fuck him over on those regards than they should be prepared to lose the last remaining support they have from their base. Trump is a wildcard and that's what scares so many people. There are some things he can do that are within his grasp potentially:
>propose a constitutional amendment to limit congressional term limits
>a permanent foreign lobbyists, including the Israel and Saudi Arabia lobby
>ban congressmen from becoming lobbyists for 5 years
>Raise import tariffs on Chinese and Mexican goods. Hell, the fucking EU already does this shit.

If he does those 4 things than it would represent a major change in US politics.

Permanent ban*

>tariffs
It will be American consumers paying for the wall retard, we only have things to do things cheap enough we can still turn a profit and since you'll also go after other competitors it's only dumb fuck American manufacturing we have to beat.

Yes, you're that stupid you might call it a victory because some Mexica business will suffer. It's still YOU paying.

>remittances
see first loophole that comes to mind is persons coming to visit can carry $10,000 with them, Trump will put some hurt into people doing transfers but he'll never be able to close all loopholes, hell people might start doing transfers using fucking bitcoin or steam

>labour

You're not really American are you?

Why are yuropoors so buttblasted about the US potentially walking away from NATO because you don't contribute enough?

At this point I think we should just because you faggots are useless. Russia would be a better ally anyways.

Why wouldn't you? It would help reduce the amount of drug money the cartels are getting which would help in combatting them in Mexico. A wall would be in Mexicos benefit

Or we could triangulate then send the money to Canada then to Mexico for cheaper see there will be a lot of ways to get creative and screwing Trump over will be an incentive

>It will be American consumers paying for the wall retard
Wew
>gets over 20 billion a year injected into your nation from money sent from beaners living into america
>thinks this cant be confiscated
:^)

>b-but people will stop using wire transfers, m-muh butt coins
No, they wont. See:

I'm not saying it wouldn't help with the cartels or human trafficking, we still will never, under no conditions, pay for it, you're forgetting the problems it helps resolve are also problems you created. see it adds insult to injury, fuck Trump, you can't create debt for a foreign nation out of the blue

If he starts a trade war with Mexico, the picture for our Hispanic brothers will be grim.

Just pay for the wall and accept that you are an US bitch, Mexico.

Yeah, it's not like the US economy is the largest in the entire fucking world, nor is it true that 80% of R&D for drugs, electronics, and genetic research is done in the US. It's not like the US has a long history of having increadibly economic growth despite having an isolationist foreign policy

You're underestimating how remittances work, they used to be illegal some decades ago you know? people still managed

And besides that's not the government or people of Mexico paying is it? The overwhelming majority of people wiring money are also American citizens, Chicanos will fight you on the courts over confiscating a part of their money

You are so fucking naive it hurts.

No, fuck you Brazil, how is the real doing btw? You think we are alone in this one?

>There is no fucking way to deport all immigrants without losing billions of dollars in taxes created by them

I'm pretty sure illegals don't pay taxes. Or atleast not to the extent Americans do.

>we still will never, under no conditions, pay for it
Just loke Trump would never, under any circumstances, become president

If Trump seriously threatened to end Mexico's portion of NAFTA, the Mexican government would bend over backwards to vuild that wall. America has Mexico by the balls economically, they are in the position of power, not Mexico.

>you're forgetting the problems it helps resolve are also problems you created
So you're saying that the entirety of Mexico would rather suffer out of spite rather than chip in to pay for a mutually beneficial project? Ok

>We will NEVER pay.
Delusional beaners seriously believe this.

Also if you care about the vermin that make up your "diaspora" then be sure to welcome them as we shove them back over the border.

>Chicanos will fight you on the courts over confiscating a part of their money
Doesn't matter. Taxes are legal and citizens can't do shit about new tax laws. They tried with obama care, and failed.
Lel, it's hilarious how you think you spic lovers have literally any bargaining power here.

There is NOTHING Mexico can do about this. They will pay for the wall, or we will fuck their economy so badly to ensure that they pay for it anyways, that they'll wish they'd sucked it up and done it our way.

They pay sales tax, which is minute compared to the amount of social services they and their anchor babies eat up.

Fuck NAFTA
OH BOY, i cant wait till Mexico berters irs relations with asia

Shit they might go communist
Fuckign secret commies of PRD might win the next election

It's still a net loss and the jury is out on how big

Again leaf, most Mexicans will rather be out of NAFTA than pay Trump's wall, it will be treason if the government cuts a deal, the fucking army itself will oust them rather than protect them, Mexico doesn't pay under any scenario, if it means the Americans wreck our economy then that's what it takes, Trump came up with the idea on his own, we don't owe them shit, it's fucking theft, just because they have a gun doesn't make it right.

This, CHYNA, does what USSA couldn't.

>Muh tariffs will destroy the economy
Yeah, it's not like the EU has massive import tariffs with China or anything. And look at that, none of their major industries are fleeing overseas en masse.

Fuck PRD, MORENA has now beat them. I'll vote for the EZLN candidate, we very likely will go communist

not income tax, but they certainly pay rent to the people they're staying with and sales tax on the shit they buy

>he will never file his candidacy
>he will never win the nomination
>he will never win the presidency
>he will never start a trade war and build a wall
r-right guys?

Thats a myth
The only ones that dont pays taxes are a couple of fags that work day by day construction jobs, and Trump because he is smart

a-america
t-there's angry protests

what's going on???

You're the one who's delussional if you don't, your wrecking our economy only ensures you've made an enemy in your next door neighbour, the very scenario American foreign policy has been looking to avoid since the Mexican revolution.

>Putin will help
Uh oh Russia aren't you pretty poor yourselves

ITT trumptards vs reality.
So much kek.

We only imposed it on steel because they were dumping.

You dirty spics swarmed our country without remorse. You became 40% of our population in a couple decades.

Don't act like we're the bad guys.

So this shit is true? My co-worker was telling me about this shit, about how mexico is going low-key communist and might just go to China for help.
This shit is unreal, i cant even imagine how the US govermant would react
I thought he was full of shit

>all immigrants become refugees because communism

>40% of our population
There's little over 5 million Mexican illegals in your country, it's not our fault you can't tell us apart from other latin Americans, meanwhile 1 in 10 American citizens, something over 30 million, have Mexican ancestry, no atter what you do they'll stay.

Mexico use to be pretty red before NAFTA, I figured burger knew that was why the deal was drafted originally.
to fight communism

War with mexico?

Down to invade and wipe out beaner fucks.

Yes. Please pay attention nexttime

The thing is it wasn't true until you elected Trump, traditionally nationalists in Mexico have always been socialists as our country in it's current form was founded by a socialist revolution. We will all be looking to vote nationalist and anti-American in the next election, the more the country suffers in the meantime the more extreme we'll go, the current status quo,the PAN and PRI parties are pro-American as fuck, they'll bear the blame for having put us in a position in which we became dependent on the US.

I can't wait to see this entire thing blow up in their faces :) ha

You won't go to war, see it will spill over and we'll have plenty of other allies inside your country if it does, you might as well plan for a civil war.

You do know many aren't Mexicans right?

Your economy will be devastated paco.

Mosr police are white

Most feferal agents are white

Most most militia are white
Most gun owners are white

We withdraw all aid from kekxico, confiscate illegal immigrant income and taxation to finance the wall

then operatiom wetback 2.0

The only aid we get is a paltry billion for the war on drugs, and that's mostly just training and shit. I honestly don't give a fuck what you think, you must be stupid not to understand WE WILL NOT PAY. Do what you must, I for one I'm ready.

The contracts say 2%. They are right. Also if they get involved somewhere the media says warmongering US. If not then the question comes why isn't the US doing anything.If I'd be American I'd be sick of this too, least we can do is keeping what was agreed in the contracts

Praise for american version of Poroshenko, nothing more to say.

Come on Miguel, you can't always take take take. You have to give back to the US too.
You don't want to act like Greece, do you?

2% is a recommendation aka a nonbinding part of the agreement

Saakashvili is president soon.

Should be even higher, indeed. All this US mocking is absolutely boring shit, 90% of other countries in "charge of the world" would fuck up things much much worse.
Some oil war every 10 years in places nobody here will visit anyway - who the fuck cares man.

I assume you wanted to respond to the German and missclicked

And this wall discussion is ridiculous as well as no wall will be build. Trump will say smth like increased border control bla bla and drop the wall. No way this wall is gonna happen.

No, my mother forbid me to talk with strangers from Germany

Bulgaria is warmongering again.
Tri moreta when?

We don't owe the Americans that money, fuck you Hans

>Again leaf, most Mexicans will rather be out of NAFTA than pay Trump's wall
I'm okay with this, since you'll pay for it anyways and your economy will die.

I hope your pride is edible.
I don't care, I hate spics.
:^) Funny how we KEEP WINNING.
>something over 30 million, have Mexican ancestry, no atter what you do they'll stay.
Lel, we'll see.
>Trump wont win the nomination
>Trump will never win the election
>Trump won't build the wall
We should bet on it.

>KEEP WINNING
How?
Trump still did no steps.

He isnt even in office yet.

>Sup Forums
>commenting on foreign elections when they dont even understand how they work