Do all Europeans hold the fork in their left hand or is it just an American meme that they do?

Do all Europeans hold the fork in their left hand or is it just an American meme that they do?

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It's the norm in table etiquette

I hold a fork in my left hand when I need to hold something down to cut it with a knife.

Otherwise I eat with my right.

It's the proper way to use a fork and knife. Only uncultured plebians use it the other way around.

Yes, it's very common.

We serve burgers and fries to the Dutch at our global meetings. It's fun to watch them eat that way.

"Nice technique there, Geert."

Right is my better knife hand so yes, usually i just eat with spoon

> tfw left-handed and the most used implement is in my main hand

I think everyone does that.

Nope nope. Americans swap the fork and knife back and forth clumsily. It's why they have so much finger food.

>Americans talking about table manners
>He cuts up his food with a knife, puts it down, switches the fork into his other hand, eats, resets and repeats
slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2013/06/fork_and_knife_use_americans_need_to_stop_cutting_and_switching.html

Time to get liberated, Nige

>tfw left handed and instantly switch everything to the otherside in restaurants when sitting down

If you're right handed yes.

I'm left handed, what's wrong with using the fork with the right and the knife with the left?

I didn't think Americans actually do that

I do that just because I`m left-handed.

Well, how the fuck else do you hold the fork if the knife's in your right? What, do you—
>He cuts up his food with a knife, puts it down, switches the fork into his other hand, eats, resets and repeats
Holy shit. Nuke the US immediately.

I just use the knife in my left. Is that so wrong?

Yes, because some dude on Sup Forums says so.

It's inconvenient if you're right-handed. I bet it took you quite some time to get used to cutting things with your left hand.

>Yup. The cut-and-switch is originally European. According to Darra Goldstein, a professor at Williams College and the founding editor of Gastronomica: The Journal of Food and Culture, when forks first came to the European dining table, diners took their cues from the kitchen, where the fork would be held in the left hand to steady a slab of meat, say, and the right hand wielded the knife. So far, so good. But around the early 18th century, particularly in France, it became fashionable for diners to put the knife down after cutting, and swap the fork to the right hand—i.e., to cut-and-switch.

Why do all of America's problems inevitably come back to the French?

It's the right way. Your strength and dexterity from the dominant hand are better used for cutting with the knife, all the fork hand does is pick up food and take it to your mouth, or hold it steady while you cut with the knife.

And if you're a lefty then tough luck.

Well, at least they noticed it was retarded and stopped eating like the literal 1700s

> fork in right hand
Barbaric. This Americanism will never catch on.

Do you only hold the fork in your left when you need a knife, or would you use the fork in your left for eating things like pasta too?

Eating with your left hand is haram

Americans pre-cut their meat into small bites then swap knife and fork back and forth. It's fucking retarded.

Apparently that's the normal way to do it.

I've always had the fork in my right hand and knife in my left though, it's just the way I'm used to.

When I was a child, I once tried eating that way just to see if anything would change. I spent three eternities just trying to cut myself a piece and eventually had to resort to holding the fork to the knife to do it. How the fuck is anyone able to eat that way?

Did you read the thread? Handling the knife requires more manual dexterity than your non-dominant hand can afford, that's the entire reason why knives are held in the right hand. When the fork is used without the knife, it's obviously held in the right hand.

> Do you only hold the fork in your left when you need a knife
Yes

> would you use the fork in your left for eating things like pasta too?
Yes, because I'm left-handed.

How else would you hold it?

>american "culture"

>tfw autism and switch when I eat

I use right hand to cut with knife, and then switch to eat with fork with right hand

Went to America for the first time last year and witnessed Americans eating in restaurants. It's truly bizarre.

I love American restaurants, your cup gets refilled without even asking for it

I hate they don't do that here

Americans never ceases to amaze me.

I'm left handed so I hold the knife with my left hand and fork with my right hand. I can use both hands when holding the spoon though

I will confess i have done that when i am feeling really lazy and tired

I never seen or heard of anyone doing that in real life.

Fork in my right hand
Knife in my left
I never switch
Cuz I aint no bitch

Thanks Eminem.

what.
I thought everyone held their knives in their right hand, and forks in their left. These are the proper manners, why would you switch them? Don't they put the knife on the right from the plate anyway in America?

I hold it in my right hand, with the knife being in my left, everyone thinks I'm weird for it, but I just think it's more easy this way

there is no point using a knife when you eat all your dinners lying on the couch

t. manchild

>Handling the knife requires more manual dexterity than your non-dominant hand can afford
Are you serious?
I'm very-righthanded and I have literally never had a problem cutting with a knife in my left hand.
It's easy and quick.
Or maybe I'm more dexterous with my left hand than I think.

Either way, it's always been knife in left, fork in right for me.
I can't use a fork in my left hand, it's like trying use chopsticks. Impossible.

I have literally never seen anybody do this "cut and switch" thing.
I've always eaten with a knife in my left hand and a fork in my right and I eat my entire meal that way without putting anything down.
Are you sure it's not just dirty New Englanders or commifornians doing the "cut and switch" method?

HA
Makes sense now.

That's simply the best way to cut your food

>why would you switch them?
Or, you know, maybe they never switched and that's how they normally do it.
I bet I could out-cut AND out-eat you with a knife in my left hand and a fork in my right.
Truly my way is the easiest.
Yurop is full of barbarians as usual.

That's how civilized people eat.

Who cares

> I've always eaten with a knife in my left hand and a fork in my right
You're no better than the people you shit on.

> I bet I could out-cut AND out-eat you
And they wonder why they're fat.

I eat that way even pizza and sandwiches

Nope, it's objectively superior than pussy "cut and switch" techniques used by the underdeveloped.
"Cut and switch" is like pecking at the keyboard with a single finger. It's amateurish.

Yes, it's because of us being an efficient and effective people.
Why do you think America owns you?

Fork left Knife right.

Why does the Guardian always go on about how some yank thing is catching on when it isn't?

I thought lefties were anti america?

The thing that weirds me out about American's etiquette is that they don't use the fork's spikes facing down to stab a bit of already cut meat.

They either scoop it, or they tilt the fork all the way forward to be able to stab it.

Just rotate it with your fingers.

> "Cut and switch" is like pecking at the keyboard with a single finger.
And reverse hold is like always keeping your hand on the mouse even when you're doing nothing but typing. It's not amateurish, it's just stupid and inefficient.
> us being an efficient and effective people
I can't reply to this. Just pic related.

If you're so lazy and tired you struggle using a knife and fork you need help

>And reverse hold is like always keeping your hand on the mouse even when you're doing nothing but typing. It's not amateurish, it's just stupid and inefficient.
That honestly doesn't make a bit of sense.
You need to work on your analogies, my clearly inebriated friend.
It's simply a mirrored version.

> It's simply a mirrored version.
Unless you're perfectly ambidextrous, there's no such as a "simply" mirrored version when it comes to questions of fine motor skills. Using your non-dominant hand to cut is more inefficient than the cut-and-switch method.

>Or, you know, maybe they never switched and that's how they normally do it
Well, no. They switched from the original, traditional way of using them. The question is - for what purpose.

We thought French to use forks, so I'm a super specialist in this matter.

right-handed and use my mouse with left-hand
fork with left-hand
guitar chords with left-hand (like everyone)

If you could read, you would remember me saying that I cannot use a fork in my left hand.
Plus, I use a knife better in my left.
Not everyone has pathetic hands like you, apparently.
I'm probably more dexterous than you are with this method.

same

The proper way is to hold the fork in the left hand and knife in the right hand.

But I don't care, I just hold my fork in my right hand, and if I need to cut something I switch. It's wrong, but people rarely comment on it

It LITERALLY doesn't matter which hand you hold the fork in

It's probably because we globally eat less and less real food. Few things need to be cut with a knife. Before malbouffe or junk food, knives were certainly used much more.

Much food even seems to be pre-chewed. We don't need much muscles in our jaws anymore.

you have to ask in Europe?

You're supposed to hold the fork in your left hand and the knife in your right hand, but I hold the fork in my right hand when I'm eating something that doesn't need to be cut.

I hold them that way, knife needs more force to cut, I'm right handed, fork is just to steady, not difficult.

> you would remember me saying that I cannot use a fork in my left hand
I reread this thread and found no mention of someone saying that they can't use a fork in their left hand. Are you sure you weren't projecting when you spoke about me being drunk?
> I'm probably more dexterous than you are with this method.
I am in Japan, so guess how I usually eat.

This is an interesting point I hadn't considered. But you are right, most of the food can be cut with my fork, if it needs to be cut at all. That's probably why it doesn't seem worthwhile to learn to eat the proper way

times they are a-changin'

Unless you're talking about huge slabs, it's often more convenient to simply hook the whole piece on a fork and take parts off it by biting them, no?

And pay. We're no filthy beverage socialists.

We can have as much water as we want, though. Have you ever tried it?

cannibal!

As a Muslim I do it the other way around

>better knife hand
>flag
Story checks out.

Funny, but I actually ate human meat. Tastes somewhat like pork, in case you have to ask.

It is standard table etiquette here.
I thought this was the standard wherever people used knife and forks.

nice

Didn't have nearly enough salt, so it wasn't.

story?

i do it because id rather have a knife in a hand i have better control with

Wtf. Did you kill someone?

An acquaintance, a medical student, got away with a leg of some cadaver, thought it'd be nice to taste it. I still don't know exactly where and how he got that leg, and how old was it.

2 nukes were not enough.

You're either full of shit, or you need to find new friends.

How did you cook it?

AFAIK Japan made a celebrity out of a child serial killer. Forever degenerate. Spirit of Rape of Nanking lives in them.

You never had a medical student for an acquaintance, did you?
I didn't, but it was roasted.

In fact, I do. But he doesn't steal legs from corpses.

You should ask him to, then. :^)

I wouldn't believe it if it was another flag but it's japan
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149879/Japanese-man-22-cooks-genitals-serves-paying-dinner-party-guests.html

Why? To taste something that tastes like pork?
Also, It's not like he have acces to corpses just like that.

Yes, we all do it this way.

Never seen or heard about this ever.

>Being an unculutred pleb
Because of your flag you get a pass.

So do Americans if we have something to cut. How would you cut a steak with your left hand?