Best Right-Wing Musicians

Best Right-Wing Musicians

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He seemed to be a libertarian, which makes me like him more.

he is so underestimated

jason aldean

There is no good right-wing music
Go back to your containmemt board

>There is no good right-wing music
edgy

I'm somewhat new to this board and have yet to listen to Zappa. What's a good starting place to get a general understanding of his music?

Hot Rats. It is his best album and is immediately engaging.

Hot Rats for jazz
Apostrophe for classic rock
Joe's Garage for a concept
We're Only in it for the Money for something between the Velvet Underground and Faust

Hot rats. Check the wiki for a zappa flowchart

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Hot Rats
We're Only in It for the Money
One Size Fits All
Uncle Meat
Roxy & Elsewhere

i farded then pooped (DiscReet, 1975)

>James Brown
>Ian Curtis
>Johnny Ramone
>Bryan Ferry
>Dave Mustaine
>Frank Zappa
>Eric Clapton
>Ted Nugent (at least for the Amboy Dukes)
>Elvis Presley
>MF Doom (voted McCain)
>Lynyrd Skynyrd
>Alice Cooper
>Jeff Baxter
>Lee Ving
>Michael Graves
>Dave Smalley
>Neil Peart
>Billy Gibbons
>Morrissey (sort of)
>Varg Vikernes
>Josh Homme
>Billy Corgan
>Buzz Osborne
>Probably shitloads of previous centuries' classical composers
>Probably shitloads of country musicians
You don't have to agree on their politics, but surely you must think at least one of those is good

>we were composers and such
goodness

>Josh Homme
>Billy Corgan
>Buzz Osborne
i've never heard anything about these 3 being conservative

>Homme has described himself as "very politically conservative" and "very socially liberal", considering himself a "fallen libertarian".
>Corgan has also become increasingly outspoken in recent years as an advocate for conservative causes and conspiracy theories, frequently appearing as a guest on the Alex Jones radio show, where he has endorsed conspiracy theories such as "chemtrails" and the connection between vaccines and autism, likened "social justice warriors" to the Ku Klux Klan, decried the "emasculation" of men in contemporary society, and praised the candidacy of Donald Trump.
>In a 2011 interview with the music magazine L.A. Record, Osborne stated when asked about American politics that "I hate conservatives, but I really hate liberals. Here's the thing. I have my own opinions about everything, and it's basically classic liberalism."
(which I assume means Libertarianism which usually gets lumped in the with the right for some reason)

I don't think Varg Vikernes was the best choice.

Why? He's a talented musician and right-wing.
There's actually very few people on this list I see eye-to-eye with politically, but it annoys me when people write off a whole group of people who actually have made some really good music.

There is a large subset of people who just can not even listen to music made by people with different political views from them, even if the music has nothing to do with those views.

>(voted McCain)
what? why?

vaguely related, big boi voted for gary johnson in either 2008 or 2012, but he was a berniecuck this year.

I don't care about his political views. It's just the whole murder and arson thing that turns me off.

checked 'em.

>Ian Curtis
When will this meme end

But he was though. Even outside of voting for Thatcher he had mostly quite right-wing views (according to his missus)

>he doesn't know that billy went full Sup Forums
this guy
someone already explained homme, i heard his bandmate jesse hughes is also right wing. voting for trump, likes guns i believe.

he voted for thatcher my dude

What a classcuck

youtube.com/watch?v=GLa9YxV1Xps
????

>Morrisey (sort of)

I'd take supporting Nigel Farage and those alleged racist comments as either rare contradictions or ironic jokes.
Otherwise the guy has always bashed right wing leaders and the right in general and shown more sympathy for left wing leaders. He's for the most part a leftitst.

morrissey's weird
he is pretty racist, wants foreigners out of england, and supported are nige and brexit, but also hates the monarchy, hated thatcher, supported bernie, all the vegan shit, and all the gay shit.

>Shitloads of classical composers
You already got btfo in the previous thread fascishill

Kek, I didn't even know there was another thread and I'm far from being a fascist, mate. How am I wrong though? Surely most wealthy European people from the 17th century or whenever would be right-wing by today's standards. I doubt Bach was a socialist.

>Bach was wealthy
Keep going, I love seeing people expose their ignorance.

Why do people really care about what popular musicians have to say about politics? Most of them either go with the shadow of a leftist position that they don't really understand or go contrarian right-wing. In any case, they don't know what they're talking about. Well, when they go with the former they aren't really doing much harm at least. I mean have you ever seen what Zappa said about unions? While he's a great musician he's an idiot when it comes to talking about capitalistic structures and they're implications. Can I get some more Zizek now?

*their

I thought I was on Sup Forums where you were meant to talk about music.
But apparently this is Sup Forums.

Zappa was right wing? What kind of views did he have?

Concerning social issues like abortion he had left wing views. He was a right-winger when it came to the economy though.

Idiotic views of a self-obsessed hack

That wasn't an intended implication. Surely you must find it incredibly unlikely though that composers who were devoutly Christian, at times very wealthy and often with direct links to royal families would be anything other than right-leaning. And that's not to mention the elements of nationalism that begin to arise in a number of composers' works.

Nope, classic liberalism is more of an FDR new deal era fiscal thing IIRC.

he certainly has a thing for nationalism, his support for farage was completely genuine as far as i can tell

it seems to me that he is some kind of romantic that yearns for britain to be how it was 'in the good old days', whatever that means

You're both fucking retarded. Bach lived during the very early enlightenment. Most of the thinkers that frame our current political debates hadn't even been born yet. That includes Adam Smith, Edmund Burke, Rousseau, Montesquieu and JS Mill -- not to mention people like fucking Marx or the founding fathers. The American and French revolutions were decades away when he died. Whatever the fuck kind of "conservatism" Bach did or did not endorse, it's not the kind that you're thinking of.

this is a good post

Why did you quote me, this is my exact opinion.

> mfw literally all of this is shit aside from james brown, mf doom and buzz osborne

Hence why I said "by today's standards"
The Bach remark was off the cuff and not meant to be taken as seriously as you're all taking it.

i dunno. The ramones were pretty damn good. So was Joy Division. At the very least, you have to admit that they were musically influential even if you don't like them.

Joy Division =/= Ian Curtis

I love early Burzum, but since he got out of jail his releases have been getting more and more lackluster to say the least. I can't help but associate that with him becoming more and more of a truther and getting deeper and deeper into pseudo-scientific esoteric bullshit.

Didn't he say that he was trying to remove as much blues-influence from his music as possible so it's as white as possible? If so then that's one of the few examples I can think of of an artist's politcal views negatively affecting their work.

Burzum went to shit once he went to jail. Everything Varg wrote that people praise was written and recorded before he got convicted.

I've watched quite a few Zappa interviews.

Zappa called himself a "practical conservative".

He said he was pro-business, and wished the Republican Party focused solely on that aspect of their platform. However, he regularly attacked the GOP in his work (and other interviews). He is on the record saying that, in the 1980s at least, he was registered as a Democrat (as a temporary, "lesser of two evils" sort of thing) and, AFAIK, is also on the record as being a fan of Barney Frank. He said that elements of the Libertarian Party platform were appealing, but he detested others (namely, the idea that businesses have a right to practice racial segregation).

In terms of Presidents, he hated Nixon and Reagan (Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover as well, if we're mentioning "conservative" personalities). He was dismissive of Eisenhower, praised Kennedy, and said that he had started to view Lyndon Johnson in more favorable terms towards the end of his life.

Nah, I think that quote gets thrown around a lot, even though it's bullshit. He's said in interviews that the reason he turned to ambient music in jail was solely because he had lots of limitations in regards to what instruments and recording devices he could bring to his cell. Not that he has a very high opinion of black people, though.

Couldn't agree more. Some of my friends get on my case cuz I say I really don't like his ambient albums. I like ambient music, but Varg just can't compose decent ambient pieces if his life depended on it.

>roxy music shit
suck a dick
>unlikely though that composers who were devoutly Christian
again, you're just making ignorant assumptions
just because the times were devout doesn't mean the people were
I bet you think such a thing as "dark ages" existed too

Bach scribbled down some of his work on the paper that they wrapped the fish he bought for his sevens sons in
he was a poor a composer on the payroll, churning out masterpieces on weekly basis
he wasn't even recognized as a genious during his lifetime, that came over a century later, and largely due to the interest Mozart took in his works
Luly on the other lived the decadent lifestyle in the palace of versailles and rubbed shoulders with the rich people you describe

notice which is the best composer in the history of music and which is the hack who just wrote a pile of mindless garbage

Dem Beach Boys

Hot Rats is a great starting point but its far from his best IMO

He was a capitalist who supported civil rights. Somehow people equate supporting rights to be left wing, but that's really just not being an authoritarian. Zappa was essentially a libertarian.

Pretty sure he even produced a pro-2nd Amendment song for Grand Funk Railroad.

W.b Yeats

fugg wrong medium

You're objectively wrong, the best Burzum albums were made in his prison cell.

The right has Pet Sounds. Case closed.

But that's wrong. "Classical Liberalism" is concept specifically relating to 18th and 19th century philosophies like laissez-faire capitalism. Why would someone say how they are a conspiracy theorist right-winger and come on the Alex Jones show, and then suddenly identify as I pro-government left-winger?

that's a contrarian opinion if I've seen one
his best is by far filosofem and there is merit to his first albums
the ambient shit is completely trite
the burzum ambient tracks were genious because of the way they contributed to his albums, when you take 45 minutes of it and add attempt to make them actual musical pieces it's complete garbage

Hvis lyset tar oss is the best album and he made it in prsion, piss off little kid

>hvis lyset tar oss was made in prison
god you're fucking stupid

nice buzzwords why avent u told me to gb2 pol yet?

>laissez-faire capitalism
lmao no

Hvis (along with s/t, Aske, and Filosfem) were all recorded prior to him killing Euronymous. Their release was spread out over the course of a couple years. Do some basic research

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