/nfl/ General: Frugal Edition

NE: WR Amendola restructures deal to stay in New England
TEN:Titans give TE Walker two-year, $14.7M deal
NYG:Giants call 5th-rounder Perkins 'complete' RB
DAL:Jerry: Jaylon Smith (knee) not headed to IR
WAS:Jordan Reed signs five-year, $46.5M extension
WAS:Skins OC: Matt Jones can be every-down back
CLE:Hue: Crowell and Duke 'as good as I've seen'
DEN:Von will stay with Denver 'no matter what'
TEN:Bishop Sankey on the Titans' chopping block
SF:Gabbert 'taking control' at 49ers' workouts
OAK:Raiders GM: DeAndre Washington a complete RB
FA:Falcons look at free agent slot CB Leon Hall
BUF:Bills give Glenn 5-year deal, $36M guaranteed

First for best defensive player in league

Cut it out with the anti-Semitic nonsense in these pictures. This isn't Sup Forums.

>tfw one year Owl drought

Hold me bros

SHIT IT DOWN

>posting b8 this early in a thread

Bosa will be elite

Most tortured fanbase desu

goin to bed crossed
night boys

TYBJBC

Why are defensive coordinators so terrified of Gronk?

I think it has something to do with him being the greatest TE in history

This desu

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Has Sam Bradford become Chad Pennington 2.0?

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Aaron Rodgers

No. Pennington was actually good. If anything Alex Smith is Pennington 2.0

Reminder that Montana was a cuck

That's that Belichick defense right there

>post yfw paxton lynch starts this season, and completely crashes and burns

Who has the best defensive line in the league and why is it the New York Football Giants?

The Raiders.

That shit is sick.

He's more like, I don't even know if there's an equivalent.

I can't think of any other QB who got picked #1 overall, busted hard, got injured every year, never had a winning season, never played much less won a playoff game and still jewed ten gorillion shekels from multiple teams. He's even a bigger bust than Manziel. With Manziel people at least realized the meme is over after a year, but Bradford somehow keeps busting over and over again. Trent Richardson of QBs.

A bust so bad, that he literally caused his team to move cities

no way he starts

San Francisco here.

Is there any hope for the Niners?

not if york has anything to say about it

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Post which QBs you think will have top 5 stats next season.

Mine:

Stafford
Roethlisberger
Luck
Rivers
Rodgers

ELIte will have a 38 TD - 13 INT ratio

match made in heaven

Pats are done

this offseason is dildos

ravens

Would the Browns make it to the play offs if you gave them Aaron Rodgers, JJ Watt, and Julio Jones?

word, bill isn't even jewish

They wouldnt win past the wildcard round because their defense is so bad

because aaron rodgers is a choker*

I swear to beans, Dorsett better fucking play better this year. Not that many DB's that can run/match his speed. Too many receivers on this team.

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yeah the celtics and bruins are terribad now and the red sox keep collapsing to finish last

patriots carrying new england sports right now

The Celtics made the playoffs fuck you on about

The Celtics werent actually that bad this year

they finished with the 6 seed I think

they lost to the atlanta literally who's in the first round, who are getting swept by lebeta

Sherman instead of Watt, then yes.

It's not necessarily about the players, it's more so about the coaching and front office.

Shit coaching and tension in the team and organization is mostly the reason they were so shitty. I say were because the organization is turning around into something good.

mfw the Cowboys are going to be constant superbowl contenders from now until 2025

Bosa will be a bust.

>GOAT

His progress bar to LT-tier is maybe 10% full by now

that's what the cowboys always do, though. they just contend. they have some potential, but always either fuck it up or get injured (being healthy is the fluke, not the norm) and don't actually win. I mean I guess if you were a titans fan or something you might be thrilled that you're just a contender, but the cowboys shouldn't be bragging about only being contenders.

Same could be said about Packers who are always considered to be superbowl contender before the season and then when they get near or to the playoffs they Peter out and fail. Cowboys will have a year where it all goes their way and they win. And that will happen before 2020

that webm was so cute

I'm not saying that's necessarily wrong, but it doesn't make a great argument because it implies that the cowboys always had a better roster than the packers on paper, which isn't true, or that when the cowboys failed they usually end up doing better than the packers failing, which isn't true either.

to me it feels more like if the packers won it all it would be an "about damn time" moment, whereas if the cowboys did it would be "wait shit, they actually pulled it off??

When you are constantly a contender you have a higher chance of winning a superbowl, stop being stupid. The more often you play in a superbowl the more likely you are to win one.

Buffalo is the only exception to this rule.

Cowboys are going to be the next football Dynasty in the /nfl/ after Brady retires in 2018

>When you are constantly a contender you have a higher chance of winning a superbowl, stop being stupid. The more often you play in a superbowl the more likely you are to win one.
yeah, I agree with that. I'm just saying that as far as contenders go, the packers have been clearly and undeniably above you for a while now. they're actual contenders, while you guys are "shoulda coulda woulda been contenders if we stopped fucking it up"

>Stafford without Calvin Johnson
>top 5

Well when you consider how the Packers are now sure. But the Cowboys will soon be considered okay they are there now it's only a matter of which year in this Era of Cowboys dominance they will win a superbowl"

My guess is superbowl 53,55 and 58

well okay buddy, if you feel that strongly about it then have fun with that. at least you're not so delusional that you're doctoring the past, like some cowboys fans, you just have blind hope for the future. I don't necessarily hate that, but seeing as it's the cowboys you can go suck a fat one.

How do cowboy fans doctor the past?

This team is setting up to be one of the 4 dominant teams in the NFC and Ezekiel Elliot helped solidify that. This Cowboys offense is going to be marching down the field on niggas for years to come and their defense is above average enough to ensure winning games.

Romo is trash and can't stay healthy.

Lol.

THIS is the year Romo stays healthy right?
THIS is the year Dez isn't cancer right?
THIS is the year the secondary doesn't get burned constantly right?
THIS is the year Sean "Glass" Lee stays healthy right?
THIS is the year you don't choke away a division game at home right?
THIS is the year you have a competent back up QB right?

neither of your teams will have a winning season for years to come now just shut the fuck up and make out since its obvious you want to

He isn't trash but he can't stay healthy. I haven't seen any cowboy fan deny his health. I do however think it's stupid to just count him out due to injury of a season that hasn't happened yet. Like this guy

>How do cowboy fans doctor the past?
well not you in particular apparently, but I've often heard shit like "the 20XX season should have an asterisk on it, the cowboys clearly deserved it more than anyone else. if not for [insert excuse here] we would've walked right over everyone else and gone 19-0". yeah, when you see things like that on Sup Forums it might seem like ironic shitposting, but I've had more than enough real life experiences with cowboys fans who legitimately think like that.

it's like the opposite case of sour grapes, where instead of saying that they weren't that good anyways they say that they were so good that the lombardi should belong to them anyways, the only reason they didn't get it is because they failed to.

>responding to cowshits

they live of (you)s and should have beens

Neither will yours user

See I can make v

I think if you are falling for "we would have been 19-0" meme you should consider leaving Sup Forums because this place isn't for the likes of gullible people.

However you cannot deny the progress of the Cowboys, their change in drafting philosophy, the change in FA acquisition, and their change in team Identity. This Cowboys team is building towards a successful franchise again, and any reasonable person can see that

that's the thing though, if something almost always goes down every season in a way that the season is shot, you can't really call yourself a consistently strong team. that's like saying that one kind of expensive aircraft is the best because if it works then it'd be awesome, but in reality on every flight one of the primary systems fails and it crashes. that's not awesome at all, and not worth being considered among the best.

>hey guys I see you are having a conversation let me just poke my head in. See I'm a trip please notice me
No one likes you are respects your opinions

ravens

again, I'm saying that it happens a lot in the real world too, the Sup Forums posting could very well be just memes (and almost certainly is) but it reflects what those fans do pretty well, which is why I find it appropriately amusing.

besides, I've been here being gullible on Sup Forums for more than half of its existence by now, so if there's anything that can make me leave for good (doubt it) that isn't it.

how coincidental, 88 get and the cowboys 2016 record all in one post

They aren't there yet to consistently good. But there is no denying if cowboys were a healthy team on both sides of the ball last year they would have ran away with that division and we would all be talking something different right now. Yeah this is a "what if" scenario but you can count a team to being shit and not good because of a heavily injured year.

That's why you need to look at teams objectively

What is your opinion on this Cowboys team taking out the injury equation which should be taken out when predicting teams anyway

8-8 Cowboys team. A team that will have 6 more wins than the Ravens.

>But there is no denying if cowboys were a healthy team on both sides of the ball last year

jesus you cowshits get more delusional every year.
every team in the league has injuries every single year. if your team can't overcome injuries then you're a shit-tier team.

>Yeah this is a "what if" scenario but you can count a team to being shit and not good because of a heavily injured year.
true, in most cases you'd be right by that logic. if a team has a flukey bad year, that doesn't mean you should consider them to repeat it the following season, since they could still look good on paper. however, in the specific case of the cowboys recent history, everything working as designed is the fluke and everything falling to pieces is the norm rather than the other way around. it's a bit harsh sure, but it's to be expected that people will see the cowboys that way when that's what they usually show us.

>hes literally hoping the ravens dont fuck every team in the NFC East this year

youre scared lol

>overreach on a shit-tier rb
>owl contenders for next 10 years
pick absolutely none

but yeah on pure talent I'd say they should at the very least play in the divisional round, maybe better if the chips fall their way. however, this guy has a valid and very good point. if you can't make do with what you have, or put together a good contingency plan on the fly, then you're not really the best. just like the draft is "an exercise in risk management", building a roster that can perform well despite injuries while still staying under the cap is "an exercise in preparation and adaptability". you gotta be able to do that too if you want it all.

Well you go on and keep living in the past and ignoring the inevitable that the Cowboys are looking like a top team in the NFC for a considerable length of time.

Yes injuries happen but injuries rarely happen on a magnitude of what happened to the Cowboys, and you are the delusional one if you are still hiding behind that excuse. The amount of injury that happened to the Cowboys in key positions was a fluke. And stop going into 2016 with the reply "doesn't matter ____ is getting hurt" that is a complete dodge of an argument.

Oh what a coincidence 52

The same number of interceptions Flacco is going to throw in the Regular season.

Oh hey the last number ends with 2 just like the amount of wins the Ravens will get.

Look at me I'm acting like a Ravens trip

You look shook because you know more than anyone the Ravens are going to be mediocre. Even JFFM thinks so.

>QB misses 3-10 games every year because of injury and never has a competent backup
>defense composed of literally whos and felons
>but R-Romo will stay healthy this season we swear, owl incoming


Get fucking defense or a backup QB. I'm sick of you deluded faggots whining every season about how you deserve to win but never do. I can't wait to find out which bone Romo breaks in Week 1.

>10%
So in order to be equal to LT, you need 600 sacks and 10 super bowl MVPs, as well as 40 pro bowl years? God damn you're retarded.

>Well you go on and keep living in the past and ignoring the inevitable that the Cowboys are looking like a top team in the NFC for a considerable length of time.
the main reason that people judge you the way I was saying is because that's your recent history. if you want to be seen differently, show us something different and buck that trend, then keep it going long enough to establish a new trend. if and when that happens then you can complain that it's not a fair assessment, but until then that's what's going to happen.

>the socialist is using the living standards of those in a socialist state as a reference for how bad ghetto niggers live
God I hate that fucking cuck.

It was funny when I did it because the Cowboys WILL go 8-8 or lower

Ravens will go 10-6 or better.

It actually takes a few years to make a competitive team. It took Pete Carroll 3 years. Cowboys had a change in draft philosophy only recently. It was only recently that they got smart in the front office. It was only recently Stephen Jones started making deals, putting the right coaches in and making the right moves.

This "Norm" you think of the Cowboys is you living in the past thinking "oh it's the same Jerry Jones, the same 2000s Cowboys"

This cowboy team is going to be scary, and it's going to be constantly the center of talks everywhere with the topic "who has the best chance at winning a superbowl"

>Dak was a reach in the 4th
You are retarded can you please not talk unless you actually know a thing about football?

He's talking about Ezekiel Elliott

What's "recent" is a Cowboys team that shows it's a dominant team when it hasn't been hit with an injury bug.

What's "recent" is Cowboys stocking up on players and depth

What's "recent" is Cowboys dominating in the draft every year

What's "recent" is Cowboys having arguably one of the best offenses in the NFL (on paper)

Ezekiel wasn't a reach either and anyone who thinks so doesn't watch college football

>It actually takes a few years to make a competitive team.
yeah, that's what I'm saying. it wasn't because of jerry jones or anyone else. the reason you could get better could come from several different places, having a better front office is just one of them. it doesn't matter what the speculative reason would be though. until you can capitalize on your potential on a consistent basis, and only until then, can you shake off the "unfair" judgmental remarks about your team's ability. if you can make that happen, then at that time you can rightfully complain that the treatment is unfair. as of right now though, you haven't proved that you can execute on an elite level, so you're not elite and nobody should really expect you to be. you can hope all you want, but it's still just speculation.

Is Marshawn Lynch a HOFer?

9,112 career yards rushing (10,049 with playoffs)
74 career TDs rushing (83 with playoffs)
83 Total regular season TDs

Would look up stat comparisons but I'm headed to work soon. I think he gets in but its close.

thanks for feeding into my point, I appreciate it.

No

>12,040 career yards rushing (12,686 with playoffs)
>70 career TDs rushing (75 with playoffs)
>82 Total regular season TDs
these are another guy's stats that I don't think will be a HOFer, so no.

he's in, if nothing else hes in because he got the Seahawks a chip and should have got them 2 if Pete Carroll would have called the right plays instead of trying to make Wilson look like the hero/mvp.

No. What's "recent" is a team that finds a way to be mediocre. One good season does not change this, and one bad season doesn't, either. Injuries are not some crazy Hallie's Comet-like occurance in the NFL, they are the norm. If your team is poorly equipped to deal with injuries, their record will show that. In case you forgot, the current super bowl champions were missing their QB for a portion of the season. Didn't stop them from winning it all.
There are no excuses, the Cowboys are a mediocre team in an absolute trash heap of a division. That's what they've been for the past decade or so. If something changes, then you can talk about it.

Why the fuck do coaches do that? Harbaugh threw away an owl by throwing it 4 times on the goal line to try and make Crappershit a superstar, then Carroll did the exact same thing. It doesn't even benefit them to do it, they'll just end up having to pay a mediocre QB a ridiculous salary next contract.

>ravens will go 10-6 or better

Top kek this delusion. Ravens won't win a single game in their division unless the teams name is Browns

this guy gets it, and said it better (and shorter) too.