How is this man still considered by anyone to be a good manager? He's been a serial failure for over ten years.
>Valencia Comes into a very good team and has some success. This was over 12 years ago.
>Liverpool Obviously Istanbul was an incredible match, but it was a complete fluke. Any match where you are 3-0 down at half time is a disaster. The fairest test of a manager is in the league, and in that respect he completely failed. Getting to a second CL final showed he clearly had the quality to win the league, but he fucked it up repeatedly. Eventually sacked.
>Inter Takes a treble winning team and turns them into dogshit. Sacked.
>Chelsea Can't actually say anything bad about him here. Took a team in crisis and finished with a degree of respectability. Only there for a few months though.
>Napoli Fails to qualify for the CL despite Italy being at a low point in terms of club quality with a very good squad then gets sacked.
>Real Madrid Despite having many years experience at big clubs, he completely fails to manage the players. Hilariously cocks up in the Copa Del Rey, getting the team disqualified for fielding a banned player. Sacked.
>Newcastle Takes over a team which, despite its problems, has some obvious quality and should be mid table. He is given a job; keep them up. Draws against one of the worst sides in premier league history and now looks certain to take them down.
How is he not being demolished in the media? He's basically a more expensive Steve McClaren.
>Hilariously cocks up in the Copa Del Rey, you're a retard if you think this was Benitez's fault.
Julian Richardson
How is it not? It's his job to know his squad. The buck stops with him.
Jonathan Murphy
It is absolutely his fault senpai
Anthony Harris
>How is this man still considered by anyone to be a good manager? because Liverpool fans don't let go of the past
Jason Thompson
No, it's not. Keeping track of suspensions is the club's job, the Federation informs the club of suspensions, not the coach.
It's not.
Nicholas Stewart
I used to think this but I realised literally everyone in the media seems to rate him, not just the Lawro-Quinn-Carragher-Aldridge ex - Liverpool axis of delusion
Jose Barnes
>Obviously Istanbul was an incredible match, but it was a complete fluke.
He won the FA Cup a year later though.
>Getting to a second CL final showed he clearly had the quality to win the league
Not exactly, Liverpool's problem in the league was that they had no depth. They had a starting midfield of Gerrard, Alonso, and Mascherano, but they had Championship-tier players coming off the bench. And getting to two CL finals in 3 years is a pretty clear sign that the manager is good, plenty of guys we consider "elite" managers have achieved far less with a lot more (Pep with Bayern, Mourinho with Real Madrid, Wenger with Arsenal, etc.).
Robert Barnes
>the club Benitez was part of the club. It's his job to know these things. There isn't some "Head of suspensions" at Real Madrid, and even if there is, as head coach, Benitez will appoint and be responsible for his staff. By extension it's his fault.
Justin Jackson
When I said it was a fluke, I meant he got lucky in the second half. Any match where you're 3-0 down at half time indicates something has gone very wrong tactically and the second half was far more down to the spirit of the players than anything the manager did. The league is the fairest test of any manager and Liverpool getting to two CL finals just proves my point - they obviously could play with quality when they wanted to, but it's a failure of the manager that they didn't replicate it domestically. Any team doing that well in Europe should be winning the league at least once, maybe not in the same season but certainly within a period of a few years.
Luke Sanchez
>Federation sent an information with a suspension to Real Madrid >Real Madrid officials claim to never have seen it >this is somehow the coach's fault
Robert Collins
>Draw against Liverpool and Man City >Fail to beat Sunderland, Norwich or Villa
If they do happen to go down it'll be those results that cost them.
Leo Cook
Of course they're going to say that to try and overturn the suspension. The fact is the manager didn't know his own squad.
Even if you don't think that was his fault, he fucked up at Madrid. He clearly wasn't good enough and managed the players horribly. You can say the players were cunts but when you're as good as Ronaldo, you're allowed to be a cunt.
Tyler Sanchez
Spurs have STILL not wrapped up second place
Carter Cruz
The game itself was definitely a fluke, no question. But Liverpool still got to the CL final in the first place, you don't get that far without a good manager no matter how good the team is.
>but it's a failure of the manager that they didn't replicate it domestically
It's a failure of the club for not providing the funds to give Liverpool a decent bench. Like I said, they had no depth, even in that 07-09 stretch when they were one of the top 4 or 5 teams in Europe and wrecked Real Madrid 4-0. This is partially thanks to their dick of an owner, Tom Hicks, who took over the club in 2007 and has bankrupted or nearly bankrupted every single sports team he's ever owned (5 of them so far).
>Any team doing that well in Europe should be winning the league at least once, maybe not in the same season but certainly within a period of a few years.
The Premier League was insanely good at the time, though. IIRC, every single CL final from 2005 to 2009 had at least one of the "Big Four" in it. And I'd argue that Liverpool really only had the quality to win the league starting in 2006, 2 years after Benitez became manager. And all the debt from Hicks started destroying the club in 2009, so there was basically a 3-season window where Liverpool could have won the league. Going 3 seasons without winning the title in such a difficult league isn't that surprising, after all, Real Madrid have gone 4 seasons without a title in La Liga when they would be favorites in any other league in the world.
Cooper Gomez
>Harry Kane scores a hat trick in the first half >Newcastle come back and score 3 in the second half >Arsenal beat Villa 13-0 >Spurs finish 4th on GD >Everyone shitposts about Newcastanbul until the Euros start
Eli Diaz
Gary Neville is a better coach than Benitez, but because he's english and the whole world is ABE he'll never have a chance to manage top clubs like Benitez
Carson Wood
Apart from 13-14 that period was probably Liverpool's best chance to win the league. You can make excuses, but it was a pretty incredible team he had, and you've got to count it as a failure.
Adrian Lee
Liverpool had no depth because Benitez wasted hundreds of millions on fucking terrible players.
That Milan team was stacked. And you posted the wrong year anyway, Istanbul was in the 2004-05 season.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Gerrard dived at Istanbul la
Jeremiah Diaz
>Newcastle >Takes over a team which, despite its problems, has some obvious quality and should be mid table
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Christian Rodriguez
It's as much as a fluke as Carlo Ancelotti being a dumb fuck who kept watching his team losing a lead while he keeps chewing his gum on the bench...like he always does.
