Discuss the awesome Canuck electronic artist Claire Boucher known as Grimes.
Suggested topics: >How and when did you find out about her? >Rank/rate her albums and post your favorite songs of hers. >Did you see her live? Do you plan to? >Who would you like to see her collab with?
But here’s where things get a little confusing. When asked to describe the direction of the new songs, Grimes says, “With Art Angels, it was all like [growls]. This would be more chill vibes, downtempos, synth-y shit. That makes it sound boring. It’s not boring.” And when asked if that upcoming record is a b-sides album, she explains, “You know how Lana Del Rey put out Paradise Edition after Born To Die? It would be like that. There are songs I seriously considered for Art Angels, but they fucked with the momentum when I tried to put them on the record.”
So if I’m understanding correctly, the b-sides will be packaged as an EP with a reissue of Art Angels, and the synth-y new songs are something totally separate that she’s also working on and will not appear on the record that she’s halfway done with. It’s also a bit unclear if these b-sides are the scrapped version of the album that eventually became Art Angels, which she has said she’ll probably release at some point, or other b-sides that she ended up leaving off of Art Angels later.
Jaxson Torres
>UPDATE: Grimes has posted a clarification on her Tumblr, which indicates that no new music is coming soon.
>Hey! :)
>contrary to what some press is saying, I’m not ‘half-way done’ another record, nor will i be playing new music at upcoming shows. Of course im always working on new stuff, but i havent taken even a weekend off in years at this point, and i’ll need to chill when this cycle is over so please don’t set expectations too high.
>last time, everyone wanted the visiosn follow up right away and any off-hand comment i made about new material became the weapon by which i was attacked, so to save my self grief i am publicly stating that there is no new music coming any time soon. I really need a break and I intent to take one.
>I’m sure this will be referred to as a delay or a lost album or a rant/ screed/ melt down. just fyi, it is none of these things. This is literally nothing besides a ‘clarification’ that new material is not imminent.
>much love to y’all :)
Lincoln Collins
That made you really mad
Wyatt Thompson
There are 3 sets of unreleased Grimes songs: - the scrapped album (made beyween Visions and Art Angels); - additional songs made during Art Angels (AFTER the scrapped album); - other older unreleased songs.
Daniel Nelson
perfect. literally perfect.
Easton Cox
Well, I have tomatoes growing in my garden. I don't post pictures of me holding them on social media as i'm not a cunt. My father has tomatoes in his garden. He doesn't post photos of himself holding them on social media as he is not a cunt. Grimes finds some tomatoes. >hey u no what wud be kewl
Actually, I find her quite unattractive. I've known girls with her style: unwashed; drug using; more masculine than feminine; artsy; alternative. Not my kind of thing in a woman.
However, I think most artists in their respective genres can produce cringe photographs, but only when they are trying too hard. On the other hand, all artists in their respective genres can create really good photographs. Usually candid.
u no?
Samuel Lewis
>I don't post pictures of me holding them on social media as i'm not a cunt. So you must be a cunt if you post pics with you holding some tomatoes? Are you ok, dude?
John Young
She once said she was making a KLF inspired album. I'd like to hear that stuff too.
Logan Gray
rudimentary comprehension and english language 101 for you next semester?
Josiah Rogers
i went and saw grimes play at an outdoor concert. literally the first time i ever heard her. Lots of people went, lots of people said it was awesome. i seriously didn't fucking get it at all. her voice is just horrible sounding. i dug the dancing and the beats and shit, but it all sounded very very similar and her cutesy Aqua-esque voice just wasn't my bag.
Alexander Miller
her live performance is very dance-oriented she makes pretty varied music otherwise
Jose Bennett
>I find her quite unattractive. I've known girls with her style: unwashed; drug using; more masculine than feminine; artsy; alternative. Not my kind of thing in a woman.
see this is the kind of entity who hates grimes. the kind with a plank of wood up his arse who hated all the greatest artists of the past.
you really shouldn't have been this honest. someone as unimaginative and conservative (in every sense) as you will never appreciate art- or women.
Kayden Bennett
I tried to fap to her and couldn't mantain my boner, and I thought my entry to the waifufags was almost complete
oh my fucking god, and everyone jumped at my throat last thread when I criticized her
Kayden Thompson
So, you're a dumb cunt.
>I have tomatoes growing in my garden. OK.
>I don't post pictures of me holding them on social media as i'm not a cunt. >implying that if you would post them you would be a cunt >but you're still a cunt regardless of posting them or not
Ryan Green
Her music is probably not for you. She has a cutesy voice which is like marmite. It's an acquired taste.
Dylan Hughes
she didn't make that video tho it seems this is kind of sweet of her tho, a little creepy but then again she is 16 instagram.com/p/BFP29czOj9V
Adam Ramirez
Worried? It's just a fan video, not gore or xxx.
Jose Russell
gpellison__: Didn't u post a vid of Jimmy the stalker singing and dancing and then u took it down immediately??? I'm assuming it's @jimmy.jimmy19844???? actually.claire: No, I don't even know what Jimmy looks like. I've only heard his voice before @synergy_group_
welll what the fuck did they mean by this? "jimmy"? so animejames? i bet these borderline stalkers know so much more than us and it's embarassing, also i don't get calling this crazy stalker piece of shit "jimmy", seems kind of weird
Wyatt Fisher
grimes is cool
Anthony Thomas
Can anyone post the latest flowchart?
Daniel Brown
yes that is animejames
maybe there's a secret society of ricardos that none of us knows about
Cooper Green
>people like this are the reason grimes stopped posting shit like she was in 2012 about drugs and stuff I mean it's cute and all, really, it's super endearing that stans like this exist.
But I miss my shitposting twitter Grimes. This new-age defanged Grimes that posts once in a blue moon and it's always an rt of what her friends are doing is lame af. Not that I blame her at all, it's not her fault, it's just a consequence of rising fame. I'm just not satisfied that it has to be this way, even though I've accepted it.
I can only imagine how amazing that "oh shit" moment she had when she realized just how obsessed people were getting with her. That realization of "fame giveth and fame taketh away".
I guess it's a net positive because she's gotten off of the hard shit, and I'm super proud of her for that. Her twitter in 2012 was just GOAT and the archive doesn't do it justice, and I'll always miss that time.
Liam Murphy
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Nathan Wood
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Juan Collins
2013 first half of the year was peak twitter, maybe even more than 2012. after moving to rural squamish she had much more free time and constant internet for the first time in (supposedly) seven years. she also didn't have a cell phone at all until she got an iphone that year, apparently. seems unlikely, but in any case she did spend more time online and increase her tweeting that year, maybe because she had less touring commitments and was procrastinating while making the "lost album" (=everything recorded in BC).
Easton Taylor
I think we can all agree grimes' social media game was peak when she still had no idea how famous she was.
Parker King
until she was spoiled by the drug, there is no way back, and there is no evidence that she stop it
Mason Ross
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Luis Phillips
she said so and she generally looks healthier now.
we have no reason to doubt her.
Nicholas Hernandez
>weed is not a drug
Dominic Kelly
weed is not a hard drug, which is what she said she quit.
Grayson Jones
grimes is ugly and her music is shit
Evan Wright
she was pretty damn famous in 2012 and the first half of 2013, but she was cool with the fans reading her random thoughts. what happened is she didn't realize the media would have a gossipy interest in her, even a political interest. they got to her tumblr, and started making headlines, bringing it to the attention of non-fans. that was terrible enough in her eyes even when the headlines were wonderful, like poptimist and feminist manifestos on tumblr in february and april, which were well received everywhere that wasn't Sup Forums.
nonetheless, she was angry, and deleted her entire tumblr briefly after that. it seemed like an absurd overreaction even to fans, but in retrospect she had the right idea in not wanting those headlines, because good as they seemed, they created an image of her as an ideological leader, which the left (including those with zero awareness or interest in her music- or maybe even any music) now expected her to constantly live up to in future statements, subordinating art to their dogma. Worse, it also made her a target of the alt-rapist right ever since, who imagine her as the prototypical sjw (ummm try Meredith Graves).
Everything fell apart by the end of 2013. Pouncing on alleged inconsistencies in her feminist image, Spin turned against her simply for defending her bf from attacks they may have designed just to get a "Grimes responds on tumblr" clickbait headline. Then the simmering real life beef with her old friends about who deserved credit for her success, which had been developing quietly, opened up into a twitter war by the end of the year.
2013 started beautifully, but ended up destroying both tumblr and twitter for her. Her instagram account was founded in January 2014, around the same time she scrapped the lost album, left BC and went to LA. Twitter and tumblr are tied up with the past- like the album she left unfinished. Excavating her lost tweets would be a difficult but necessary task of the future scholar of Grimes.
Wyatt Howard
(not true, by the way)
Jose White
This is a good writeup. Post-visions, pre-AA grimes is so fascinating.
The more you uncover the more connections you see between what before seemed unrelated. This opens up new possibilities about her mindset leading up to the release of AA. 2012-2015 must have been such a huge rush for her. A shame she got burned along the way by web 3.0 psuedo-blogger journalism. Each passing day it looks more and more likely she's going to turn into your average popstar, and that's a very real shame. Grimes as a post-internet popstar who was wary of but still used social media to form a close bond with her fanbase was very unique and magnetic. I'll never forgive music journalists for betraying that because of a slow news day and they have nothing better to do than write about specifically she said NOT to write about.
Her time at Squamish is super fucking interesting to me, I think that's where the last shred of Montreal Claire died and the new-age Grimes was born. I have no doubt in my mind the falling out with Seb played a part in her running away just as much as her wanting to not get caught up in cheap celebrity scandals and not wanting to stomach LA.
I wish one day James would offer his perspective of just exactly what the fuck happened from March 2012 to Feb 2014, because it's basically one huge question mark and it's a huge part of her development as a person from Post-Goth Claire Who Stammers And Loses Her Train Of Thought to World Trotting Popstar Who BREATHES Confidence. But she'd never be okay with that and that's enough for James to not even think about it.
Adam Adams
qt
Nicholas Miller
she's not confident, she's just pretending
Evan Hughes
She's way more confident these days. The really shy Claire is a thing of the past. She's still awkward though.
Luis Richardson
Why do we love Grimes so much?
Me it's probably because my first girlfriend (who introduced me to her) liked her a lot. She broke my heart when she dumped me and to this day I still listen to grimes (3 years today).
Angel Kelly
She's very different from how she was in 2012 and before.
The Visions non-stop bullshit probably pushed her to the edge. It's here that I speculate James decided to put a stop to it, for whatever reason. My own hypothesis is that Seb didn't see just how close Claire was to a critical meltdown, or she had them in previous tours and he just accepted them (she was an awkward, shy girl being thrust in front of huge audiences afterall, it's only natural that it'd wrack her nerves)
Queue James loathing Seb's guts, convincing Claire to sack him, the alienation and vilification of Claire from Montreal's indie pop scene, and alongside whatever factors she saw in LA that spooked her and New York looking like a pit of scandals, she was once again pushed to the edge of her limits until she finally retreated to squamish to pupate and emerge from the cocoon as the Grimes we know and love today, much stronger mentally.
this is probably waaaay off target and not at all what happened, but it's my current hypothesis.
Colton Gomez
i just gave AA a shot and it clicked, then the others
Adam Flores
Because she's a truly amazing artist. I'm pretty sure I'll be a fan for life, no matter what kind of music she will release in the future. So far I enjoyed all of her songs.
Joshua Nguyen
beta
Benjamin Moore
What if James was the villain here and he alienated her from Seb because he was jealous of their relationship and then the rest so that they couldnt talk sense into her? i mean, he isn't exactly outgoing himself, so i don't see how he could be one to inspire confidence in her.
Brayden Lopez
she's pretty based and her music is good.
her visual artwork is sick, too.
Caleb Brooks
I think Grimes is quite surprised that fans love her so much and that her music is really appreciated. In many, many interviews she talked about herself in a self-deprecating way, like she was afraid to acknowledge the fact that she's great.
Jaxson Hughes
good smellin puss
Gabriel Powell
shes not even hot tho
Ethan Wright
i just realized why i'm still here for the memes
Thomas Morgan
grimes is a good meme material
Jack Baker
James is the only one who ever showed concern for the toll that touring was taking on Claire's mental health. I don't think Seb's crime was one of malice, I think it was just one of neglect.
At any rate, try to imagine what James sees when he joins the tour courtesy of Bloodpop: A Grimes that's growing more and more disturbed and moody, Seb not paying attention/not caring about Grimes' emotional state, and a whole lot of people doing nothing while Grimes basically shatters in slow motion.
Grimes had before mentioned touring is super hard for her, but she was just out of a super long relationship with Devon, recently broke up with Picture Plane, and she'd never toured even half as hard as she did with Visions and for generally much smaller crowds. That's not a recipe for a stable individual even if they were well adjusted leading up to it (Grimes was anything BUT well adjusted at this point in her life.)
Yeah, if I was James I'd be fucking pissed too and trying my hardest to pull Claire out of that plane before Seb crashed it with no survivors. If he didn't she'd probably have developed some pretty severe levels of psychosis.
>Cause every time you look away >I think I love you more each day
Hunter Moore
>I like Roc Nation and I love Jay-Z >But on Westside I'm screamin fuck CB what did he mean by this?
Xavier Bell
CB is a gangster and undercut his business, popped his boys and made a fool out of him to all the other gangs.
It was a power play that made everybody start to fear the crazy waif white bitch.
Tyler Morgan
post your favorite grimes picture and list one (or more) fact(s) that makes you like grimes enough that you endure the tides of diarrhea that this thread seems to wade in.
>grimes actually gives a fuck about things >grimes also cares enough that she doesnt shill these things overtly into her art, instead only speaking to her personal experiences rather than a political agenda
Jace Flores
Does anyone have more photos where claire is waering tight shirts like this? If not, what about loose neck shirts where you can see her collar bone like this Please...
Zachary Ross
>POKIES
Leo Brooks
can you not
Daniel Parker
i hope you aren't requesting these for lewd purposes user...
Anthony Martinez
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Colton Ward
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Joshua Phillips
where can i read her pre-2014 tweetes?
Jason Green
>James is the only one who ever showed concern how do you know? it's all speculation. how you know that everybody just stood by and watched.
>I don't think Seb's crime was one of malice, I think it was just one of neglect. but the story did turn malicious when Seb supposedly tried to spread rumours that Claire was a sellout and alienating her from her friends. he just doesen't strike me as that kind of person either. and why did they all still turn on her if it was later shown that Seb had been a douche?
Zachary Cox
in the book of lord voignamir when you ascend to the sky
Evan Campbell
getting some mean comments
Nolan Sanchez
is Grimes the most popular artist Sup Forums has ever had? Ive been here for six years and have not seen this level of fandom save for maybe that big k pop band and now churches
Levi Perry
>how do you know? it's all speculation. I don't. It is all speculation.
Something's just not right about the way James went from "Wow I like Elite Gymnastics, their music is pretty sick" to "James is literally my knight in shining armor"
Jackson Ross
hahahahah
Jayden Hernandez
on the bright side she says that when she retires she'll turn back into queen bitch, so we might get some dank claire memes in 30 years.
Matthew Watson
What's the background on this pic?
Owen Gutierrez
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Dominic Sullivan
please keep posting stuff like this, it's the only reason i come here really
Bentley Price
I just love her music. It makes me think about stuff.
Ryder Fisher
>>>/reddit/
Evan Rivera
Why did Claire break up with Devon? He's hotter than James. Also, how did she met James?
Joshua Brown
>the last trashique 'spam' was 4 days ago im think i'm dying lads, just wiltering away waiting for the next set of videos class doesn't start for another month my friends all work 60 hour work weeks at a factory (lol nounion) i have nothing to do but stew and wait i should probably work on my music but whenever i try i just get distracted and come back here in less than 30 minutes
Jose Jenkins
> now churches
There isn't any Chvurches fandom on Sup Forums. Maybe there's some people (I like them) but for the most part it's just threads about Lavren and how much they hate/love/want her.
Connor Long
> she'll turn back into queen bitch
What did she mean by this?
Dominic James
He couldn't be in a relationship with her because she kept letting him down, like not showing up for dates, never returning his calls, etc.
Owen Diaz
>is Grimes the most popular artist Sup Forums has ever had? no, but one of the most popular for sure
Dylan Foster
her own words were something along the lines of: >when I retire I'll probably turn back into a huge bitch
in the context meaning she'd return to social media except really vocal with a deficit of fucks to give.