Friendly reminder that all subgenres and microgenres are fucking stupid and if you regularly use terms like "shoegaze"...

Friendly reminder that all subgenres and microgenres are fucking stupid and if you regularly use terms like "shoegaze" and "post-rock" you deserve to die.

No good shoegaze album has ever been made as a result of the sentence "let's make a shoegaze album!" As soon as a subgenre becomes a 'thing' it's on borrowed time, or possibly already dead in the water.

This is why there hasn't been a good shoegaze album since Souvlaki, hasn't been a good post-rock album since Agaetis Byrjun, hasn't been a good IDM album since MHTRTC, hasn't been a good grunge album since Dirt etc.

There is no genre for which this doesn't apply. Anything less broad than "rock", "pop", "electronic" or "hip hop" is retarded and if you disagree with any of this you're a fucking pleb. The only use for subgenre tags is for autists to bitch and moan about what does and doesn't constitute X genre

>there hasn't ben a good shoegaze album since Loveless
ftfy

There maybe truth to this but yuo dont have to be an ass

god i hate anonymous boards sometimes

i agree

>"there hasn't been a good shoegaze album since Souvlaki"

Sure there has, you obviously haven't done enough looking around.

>pic related

If we didn't have subgenres it would be really tough to find albums that actually sound really similar to other albums

I went through a small phase where I just listened to shoegaze and I found some great stuff like Lsd and the Search for God, the Depreciation Guild, and Candy Claws

also,
>there hasn't been a good IDM album since mhtrtc
Ahahahahahahahahahahauahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

ugh, leave that tired meme in the trash

That isn't really a shoegaze album though

In fact it's a prime example of a group not trying to conform to some preconceived genre notions. It has bits of warp records, bits of stereolab, bits of mbv etc but it's very much its own thing.

>humans using words to organise things is bad

>hasn't been a good post-rock album since Agaetis Byrjun

Skinny Fists was released after Agaetis Byrjun you idiot.

Go on, give us a list of great IDM records from fresh faces that came after the late 90s. And obviously stuff from the old guard doesn't count, I don't care if you think geogaddi is better or you really liked syro since that's obviously not what this fucking thread is about

Not inherently, but you can't deny that the culture of pedantry it creates is cancerous, as is the inevitable endless barrage of bandwagon acts you get when a hip new genre tag pops up

Skinny Fists is literally the cancer that killed post-rock. Everything bad about the genre can be traced to that band. The folks from Godspeed are possibly the biggest hacks of our time.

>there hasn't been a good shoegaze album since Souvlaki

Chris Ott posts on Sup Forums now?

Could you give an example of what you mean by bad?

Lunatic Harness
Ultravisitor
Go Hawaii
Cosmogramma
Of course I can name a ton more but you don't want me naming Aphex Twin Autechre and shit

Ok this is bait

You do realise you just gave me an album that dropped in 97, a squarepusher album (I would argue he counts as part of the old guard) 2 more, then gave up?

FlyLo is definitely great but there's really more to him than "IDM". haven't heard the other one so I can't comment. I'd love to be proven wrong, but this post isn't exactly promising

It's the exact same crescendocore bullshit as everything that came after it, but it gets a free pass because they did it first.

funny fish meme

There's been a lot of discussion in /metal/ about a similar case, but lots of bad music being inspired by a certain album does not make it a bad album.

>friendly reminder
>you deserve to die
I don't want to be your friend.

>There's been a lot of discussion in /metal/

I find that hard to believe based on past visits

What album tho?

Deserving to die was conditional tho, if you read that and that's what you took from it it's your own fault :^)

Slaughter of the Soul.

bump

asdf

dilettante

>using genres to find similar sounding music is stupid
you are literally retarded

>Souvlaki

slow dive sucks, you just have poor taste and a stick up your butt.

that casino versus japan album is good and worth giving a listen. if you are interested in a list of more stuff here's a few more things:

o9 - church of the ghetto pc
phthalocyanine - no one said you didn't
hrvatski - irrevocably overdriven break freakout megamix
proswell - konami
team doyobi - choose your own adventure
nettle - build a fort, set that on fire
lexaunculpt - the blurring of trees
jega - variance

Thanks for the recs :)

IDM is a bad example, first of all only you amerifags use this term, and also you can use it to describe any electronic music that is a bit experimental and stuff. for example most of the "seapunks" albums that came out around 2012 were mainly IDM to me (even sometimes good ones)
Also subgenres are convenient for searching new music (but yeah, not for making it). And don't be so dogmatic, it's music, so it's art so it's inherently subjective. Let the people have their subgenres if they want to

You're not wrong

>There has never been a good Shoegaze album.

Needed one more tweak.

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