Friendly reminder that all subgenres and microgenres are fucking stupid and if you regularly use terms like "shoegaze" and "post-rock" you deserve to die.
No good shoegaze album has ever been made as a result of the sentence "let's make a shoegaze album!" As soon as a subgenre becomes a 'thing' it's on borrowed time, or possibly already dead in the water.
This is why there hasn't been a good shoegaze album since Souvlaki, hasn't been a good post-rock album since Agaetis Byrjun, hasn't been a good IDM album since MHTRTC, hasn't been a good grunge album since Dirt etc.
There is no genre for which this doesn't apply. Anything less broad than "rock", "pop", "electronic" or "hip hop" is retarded and if you disagree with any of this you're a fucking pleb. The only use for subgenre tags is for autists to bitch and moan about what does and doesn't constitute X genre
Christian Reyes
>there hasn't ben a good shoegaze album since Loveless ftfy
Hunter Phillips
There maybe truth to this but yuo dont have to be an ass
god i hate anonymous boards sometimes
Noah Hill
i agree
Benjamin Sanchez
>"there hasn't been a good shoegaze album since Souvlaki"
Sure there has, you obviously haven't done enough looking around.
>pic related
Dylan Baker
If we didn't have subgenres it would be really tough to find albums that actually sound really similar to other albums
I went through a small phase where I just listened to shoegaze and I found some great stuff like Lsd and the Search for God, the Depreciation Guild, and Candy Claws
also, >there hasn't been a good IDM album since mhtrtc Ahahahahahahahahahahauahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa
Jordan Barnes
ugh, leave that tired meme in the trash
Brody Fisher
That isn't really a shoegaze album though
In fact it's a prime example of a group not trying to conform to some preconceived genre notions. It has bits of warp records, bits of stereolab, bits of mbv etc but it's very much its own thing.
Levi Hughes
>humans using words to organise things is bad
Nolan Hall
>hasn't been a good post-rock album since Agaetis Byrjun
Skinny Fists was released after Agaetis Byrjun you idiot.
Thomas Hughes
Go on, give us a list of great IDM records from fresh faces that came after the late 90s. And obviously stuff from the old guard doesn't count, I don't care if you think geogaddi is better or you really liked syro since that's obviously not what this fucking thread is about
Adrian Butler
Not inherently, but you can't deny that the culture of pedantry it creates is cancerous, as is the inevitable endless barrage of bandwagon acts you get when a hip new genre tag pops up
Easton Ross
Skinny Fists is literally the cancer that killed post-rock. Everything bad about the genre can be traced to that band. The folks from Godspeed are possibly the biggest hacks of our time.
Anthony Reed
>there hasn't been a good shoegaze album since Souvlaki
Jaxson Powell
Chris Ott posts on Sup Forums now?
Tyler Richardson
Could you give an example of what you mean by bad?
Hunter Powell
Lunatic Harness Ultravisitor Go Hawaii Cosmogramma Of course I can name a ton more but you don't want me naming Aphex Twin Autechre and shit
Benjamin Myers
Ok this is bait
Jacob Watson
You do realise you just gave me an album that dropped in 97, a squarepusher album (I would argue he counts as part of the old guard) 2 more, then gave up?
FlyLo is definitely great but there's really more to him than "IDM". haven't heard the other one so I can't comment. I'd love to be proven wrong, but this post isn't exactly promising
Juan Harris
It's the exact same crescendocore bullshit as everything that came after it, but it gets a free pass because they did it first.
Jaxon Wilson
funny fish meme
Jaxson Fisher
There's been a lot of discussion in /metal/ about a similar case, but lots of bad music being inspired by a certain album does not make it a bad album.
Samuel Garcia
>friendly reminder >you deserve to die I don't want to be your friend.
Mason Garcia
>There's been a lot of discussion in /metal/
I find that hard to believe based on past visits
What album tho?
James Nelson
Deserving to die was conditional tho, if you read that and that's what you took from it it's your own fault :^)
Carter Jackson
Slaughter of the Soul.
Alexander Hughes
bump
Carter Nguyen
asdf
Logan Ortiz
dilettante
Joshua Cruz
>using genres to find similar sounding music is stupid you are literally retarded
Jordan Williams
>Souvlaki
slow dive sucks, you just have poor taste and a stick up your butt.
Jack Lee
that casino versus japan album is good and worth giving a listen. if you are interested in a list of more stuff here's a few more things:
o9 - church of the ghetto pc phthalocyanine - no one said you didn't hrvatski - irrevocably overdriven break freakout megamix proswell - konami team doyobi - choose your own adventure nettle - build a fort, set that on fire lexaunculpt - the blurring of trees jega - variance
Isaac Thompson
Thanks for the recs :)
Dominic Gomez
IDM is a bad example, first of all only you amerifags use this term, and also you can use it to describe any electronic music that is a bit experimental and stuff. for example most of the "seapunks" albums that came out around 2012 were mainly IDM to me (even sometimes good ones) Also subgenres are convenient for searching new music (but yeah, not for making it). And don't be so dogmatic, it's music, so it's art so it's inherently subjective. Let the people have their subgenres if they want to