Why was I not informed Bowie was this patrician? Wtf, this is great

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It's a sublime album. Which of his albums have you heard? There are plenty of patrician ones.

About half of TRAFOZSATSFM and most of his "greatest hits" (I know, I deserve to be crucified). What else is like this then? If you could point me in the right direction, that'd be great.

Everyone has to start somewhere. You can always listen chornolpgically from the start because minus his debut album, everything in the 70s is fantastic. Low is the first part of the Berlin trilogy, which also consists of Heroes and Lodger. Collectively they form his most patrician and experimental period.

Just before the Berlin trilogy is Station to Station which in my opinion is his finest work and contains his best song, the title track (many others on this board would agree with that second point). He made it in a blitz of cocaine, paranoia, hallucinations and Nazi sympathising, and recalls nothing of the recording sessions. Well worth checking out. It also gives Low some more context, because he escaped the cocaine addiction alive and left America for Berlin, where much of Low was recorded. The album title reflects his mood at the time.

After the Berlin trilogy comes Scary Monsters, another highly patrician Bowie album and some here would say his best too. Best deacribed as art pop. That has Ashes to Ashes which you might already know.

His 80s output is very weak though and you have to wait until the 90s' Outside before he returns to form, with another patrician album, I suppose you could say.

It's No Game Pt1 is underrated

SHUT UP

SHUT u---

Love scary monsters and also Fashion is in scary monsters another great song.

>why was I not informed that one of the most critically acclaimed artists of the last 50 years who is constantly talked about on Sup Forums and has had even more discussion this year in light of his recent death made quality music?

The only possible answer is that you're 13 and this is literally your first day on the internet. Now fuck off.

actually Low used to be Sup Forums's favorite Bowie album. But the he died and everyone actually started listening to the rest of his discography. Didn't help that the normies were all over Low and Sup Forums being ever the contrarians couldn't have the same favorite Bowie album as the general public. But check the archive, as recently as 2015 Sup Forums was crazy about Low.

Now try this

A masterpiece right there.

I mean Sup Forums still is pretty crazy about Low not as much but it's still there.

Teenage Wildlife remains one of the best songs ever

I mean some critically acclaimed artists make shit music. Like the Beatles.

people have been informing you forever, but you've havent been listening

Correction; nobody was "all over" Low until Pitchfork released their Best Albums of The 70's list and then everyone gave it a fast listen. Regardless, thanks Pitchfork.

Outside is probably my favourite album of his other than Blackstar.

It's a difficult album to appreciate at first due to its industrial and abrasive sound, frequent narrative intervals and a non-linear semi-coherent concept. When you read deeper into the story and its surrounding concepts of death, art and the turn of the century, it clicks. Most of the songs work out of context as well, they're just not as catchy as his other stuff.

It's one of those concept albums where buying a physical copy for the insert is essential to understanding it.

His other post 80's albums worth checking out are Black Tie White Noise, Earthlings, Hours and Heathen

What do you guys think of let's dance i personally love it?

Contrary to popular belief not all of us browse P4K.

>not appreciating the true patrician Bowie phase
I pity you plebeians

Krautrock doesn't automatically equate to being patrician. This needs to stop.

Low as a matter of fact its a second rate Another Green World

And Low is actually very good

The song itself is genius but I've never listened to the album, despite having listened to over 10 Bowie records (something I rarely do with any artist)

I literally only listened to Low because Trent Reznor said it was his favorite album

meh
wake up OP, half of his Berlin trilogy was written by Brian Eno; listen to Another Green World/Before & After Science instead.

honestly for a "pop legend" yes it is

There are many other great tracks on lets dance like Cat people and Modern Love and China Girl.

Cool, I'll give it a spin

Never listened to the 90's shit. Is it good?

>TRAFOZSATSFM
i feel like there's a certain point where some acronyms are more trouble than they're worth

especially since he literally could've just said ziggy...

jesus.. i couldnt even tell what he meant

off topic but i'm a big fan of fiona apple's WtPHtCHTlaKWHKTtBWHGttFFFNjfnfoqvnOCNWI

OP here, did you just assume my gender?

My favourite is Youthmovies' H!AYSTOWBBTTLTIMOPWLUATH

I dunno OP, do you live under a rock?

Blackstar is a contender for AOTY
Low, Station to Station, Hunky Dory... Are all great.

I still cant into Rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust tho.

>I still cant into Rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust tho.
Why not? It's his most accessible record.

Speed of life-not bad
Breaking glass- pile of shit, talking heads
What in the world- wtf are you doing
Sound and vision- 60’s? pleasant enough I guess. Kinda boring
Always crashing in the same car- another vampish song. Again not much happens
Be my wife- not even kidding you here. Bowie’s utterances sound like something a toddler would spat out

Ok that’s it I’m done listening. Pretty sure Bowie is pure façade based shit. Jesus what you people listen for in music I will never know……….

Listen to station to station.

People here mostly like it for the ambient songs on side 2

OP here. Nah, I'm on about the first half m8. I was alright with Warzsawa but it got a bit too much by Art Decade.

>everyone actually started listening to the rest of his discography
lol, at least you know people that expanded their taste.

I know so many people in real life who never cared about David Bowie or his music, but all the sudden after he died people keep talking about how much they love his music. The real kicker is that they've never heard any of his albums, they just know like 5 or 6 more Bowie songs than the average person.

Never understood why Heroes and Low gets more praise than this. Both those albums are mostly just Bowie dicking around in his apartment and releasing first cuts.

These songs are coked-out masterpieces of sound.

I'm with him. But then Station to Station and Man Who Sold The World are my favourites, and nobody really talks about them.

Seriously. Go listen to Station to Station to subtract the Eno bloat from Low.

Or skip to "Heroes" and Lodger for some real Bowie shit.

Is Man Who Sold The World worth it?
If I listen to it, I'll have listened to every Bowie album from the 70's.

this. I really don't get it. I like em all, but Station To Station is kinda better as a whole.

>Is Man Who Sold The World worth it?
Are you retarded my man, it's under an hour of your life and you can shitpost while you listen to it

I still dont...

I'm not retarded, fuck off. I'm busy making music and I don't like outside influences creeping into the work half way in.

>Is Man Who Sold The World worth it?
Holy fuck man. You know nothing. Go listen to it right now. And blast that motherfucker.

Mick Ronson will teach you a thing or two about love.

I'm listening to it right now.
Jesus I was sleeping hard.

It's like a raw, ready to fuck Hunky Dory, without the intellectual dick-showing ("look at me, stupid schildren and adults, I love psych Dylan and Warhol") and less conceptual than Ziggy.

Honestly, it's more Mick's album than Bowie's.

Just wait until you get to Saviour Machine. This is Bowie as he honestly as never heard before, and never again. It's a dive bar rawness, the gospel of that garage band of prodigies that went on to become accountants.

Bowie exhibited many flashes of lightning in his career, this is the criminally underappreciated one.

A bit of a story

On that fated day in January, I was on my way to class. 40 minute streetcar ride, and I saw the news on...Google news? Twitter? Don't remember. All I remember is that first sentence drew out a surprised, loud yelp of "WHAT."
Now, I live in Toronto, people are used to the crazies, but that drew a few glances. In shock I queued up this album. Man Who Sold The World. That is Bowie to me.

And thoroughout that streetcar ride, while I was playing this album nearly as loud as I could, I saw on other's faces, as they settled into a seat and checked the news, the same shock and a sense of "Well what the fuck do I do now?"

That memory is special to me.

I can tell.
A quick research taught me that he wrote the songs and lyrics, then couch fucked his wifey while Ronson and Visconti worked it out.

So far not a single song has missed the mark.
God damn that riff on Black Country Rock.

Woah.

I remember being in a big group chat on fb and hearing of it that way.
I was already steeping myself in Bowie, having listened to Blackstar again that day.

No one cared in my life; no one except me and my older friend, whom I look up to.
We just rolled through a day soon after smoking and listening to his entire career.

We discussed briefly whether or not Sold The World was worth listening.

I haven't listened to Blackstar yet.
It's not a Bowie thing. It's a psyche thing. This may sound insane: This year, 2016, has been...effervescent in self-suffering.

Do you ever get scared of listening to an album? Do you ever feel not ready for it? I may be a coward, but for a time, I've preferred what I know.
I look forward to that day I'm ready. Maybe today.

And you. Your job now is to preach the gospel of Sold The World.

I will, user, I will.
And one day you'll listen to Blackstar.

Just know it's a letter scrawled in the final hour by a man who had a lot left to give with so little time.
Such a big man perceived himself via record so small by his fate, yet a man became something bigger that day.

I hope this makes it easier for you; genuinely it's written for and to you.

I weep for the man, not for who he was or could have done, as I know he exited this world happy.
I weep for all he touched, the spark of genius and life. His children, his wife, his influencees.
That's the tragic beauty of confidence. Everyone is left agape when it leaves.

You're right. I will take time in solvency [and I have a few albums to recommend that are my own Detroit], but it is definitely nearing the time.

I miss him.
I wish he were alive. I don't know why I need him to be alive, but I often have fleeting moments of sadness that both he and Prince have left us. I'll never see them or hear their new works.
I'll never read their words on the events and sounds to come.

The pen is out of Bowie's hand, which now can rest.
But his story will never been over thank God. Here we are talking about him months later. And I'm on the closer (Supermen) of the album I never listened to before.
It's perfect.

And remember, Bowie has fifty fucking years of muscianship, releases, and effort.

You never listened to a landmark. What else have you missed?

I have been saving Scary Monsters in the pocket, but was going to listen to it very soon, actually.

That's the only real imperative one I know.
I just finished Man Who Sold the World, so I've listened to everything from that to Lodger, and Blackstar.
The rest of his career, 80's and 90's and 00's I have not listened to. Or The New Day.

Reality is fucking good. That honestly was my introduction. Living in a podunk town, I knew the name, picked it up from a CD rental in 2002.

That was it. I fell in love. Think I'll listen to Reality right now. After The Superman. Oh, I've been listening too, alongside a visit to the provincially supervised liquor store of broken souls. I'm an alcoholic.

But, Reality is a fine album. I recommend it.

>outside influences creeping into the work
Good god end this meme

Reality I have been saving, too. Because I knew it was good from somehow finding out about this song, which is one of my favorites.

youtube.com/watch?v=h3PHnLR_LWk

Damn, user. Drink for me and Bowie.

? fuckin lol you little twat. Tell me how something I personally struggle with creatively could be a fucking meme?
I absorb what I love in music I listen to, so if I listen to stuff like Bowie, which is wildly different in tone and approach to what I'm making rn, I'll sub consciously start to make it like that way. It's happened before, so I know to watch it now.

You obviously don't connect to creatives often.

Reminder: youtube.com/watch?v=fHOThV5AbiA

Scary Monsters, Reality and The Next Day are on the hot list now. anything else?

No, man. You do you. i've awakened some kind of existential, empathetic pain about 9/11, so I'm useless for the next...hour.

Also not drunk enough on vodka. God, us alcoholics are so unreliable!

If you have a contact you'd be willing to share with an user in Toronto, share it. I'd be willing to continue this conversation.

b urself :^)

No I guess not.

But hey, do listen to Reality. Most people would write it off as part of that new millennium commercialism, but there's that Bowie energy and songwriting brilliance there.

You know, I meant to do my usual "Jump into a Bowie thread and never shut up" thing, but I was particularly struck by this.

I'm a huge fan. His work has changed my life, and influenced me since adolescence and I never knew it for years, weaving in and out of my life. Blackstar coming out was huge for me; what followed was worse.

I thought I was the only one like that. I understand exactly where you're coming from on that, because I still haven't listened to it, either.

I remember what I was doing. I was at home, up past midnight. I was playing a game from my childhood that I love dearly, put way too much time into, and was playing with my best friend in the whole world whom I'd bonded with greatly over that game. In between rounds, I checked Facebook. Not the news, not anything like that, just a quick look at Facebook. Within ten minutes of posting, I'd just caught the news when the official Bowie page posted it, and posted the last picture of him. I immediately poured and downed a double of scotch.

It's odd; I'd always been a huge fan and people around me have known, but I wasn't expecting the reaction I got. People were calling me apologizing like I'd known him, for some reason, people asked me for listening recommendations or whatever, but the emotional support really took me aback.

As to the rest of it.
Scary Monsters is 10/10, I was shocked how much I had loved it, after listening to the rest of his 70's stuff non-stop for two years. Reality is stupid underrated, actually, VERY good album.

Speaking of that, and the Supermen, check out A Reality Tour, as well as Santa Monica and Ziggy Stardust: the Motion Picture. It's great to hear it live, and on those latter (Earlier) two, he loved to do a lot of the MWSTW stuff. I deeply recommend it.

I think you guys have inspired me to finally listen to it. Was waiting to get through it all, but I'm going to do Next Day and Blackstar tonight. I think today is appropriate, somehow.

The only Bowie I like is some of the songs from Labyrinth.

Man I'm afraid. Ever have those incredible albums, those bands like "Holy shit, this is ME" then listen to their follow up and it's alien? Almost offensive?

Fuck it.

It's time to grow the fuck up. Turning point, as I'll say to my therapist.

The day I grabbed ahold and shook it until it relented. Thank you for getting it.

Right and you gotta listen to what the man behind TDS recommends.

>TRAFOZSATSFM
autism
took me like 10 minutes to realize what album you meant jesus

Yeah, man. Has to happen some time. Like I said, somehow, today is appropriate. Some somber emotional nexus of a day, sounds about right to me. Feels right, anyhow.

Definitely listen to Reality. And, hell, might as well go for Heathen, too. He actually wrote that one, in some sense, nut fully but "coincidentally" in response to 9/11. The man was an avid New Yorker, more that than British.

Don't get too drunk. I remember the week after Blackstar and his death. The point being, I don't remember that week at all. Don't want to forget all of it in a haze later.

Funny enough, maybe I misread it, but I swore to God he said Scary Monsters was his favorite. At the very least, I sort of remember him telling a story about that being like the first album he really listened to and loved, so that's something.

Fucking hell man, Blackstar [the track[ is like a Pharoh's sister inviting me into her...sanctum.

I'm in love. And it feels warm. I could get lost in this. Consistently. The jazzy chaos of Tis' washes over me now. I'm reminded of several dates ending well.

And no, the vodka's gone. I drink like I plan, chaotically.

But that's wrong you silly shit, Low was consistently among the favorites here for years, only dropping when he died and the general opinion on his best albums became more scattered. Even if it has received a resurgence from being on that list it's irreverent to Low being big here far beforehand.

>TRAFOZSATSFM
what the fuck is wrong with you?

Ah, man. I woke up that morning, took a while to get out of bed, strolled into the to kitchen to make a cup of tea, turned the TV on as the kettle was boiling, the news was on, and there it was. The single most crushing line I have ever read, "David Bowie dies". I was speechlees at first and then fell into a fit of tears, I'm not embarassed to admit. Everyone who knows me is well aware that he is my biggest inspiration, so I had floods of texts coming in to say sorry.

I composed myself and got dressed, then went to the shops to buy Blackstar, something I had intended on doing that day anyway. I'd already listened to it online and adored it. I don't know if other places were like this, but I live in the south of England, and walking down the road that mornign you could feel the sadness. The record shop was in a stunned silence and one guy in the queue even had tears in his eyes, it was so surreal. So many people had done the same as me and were there to buy his new album.

I then got home and blasted my own playlist of his favourite songs through my speakers at defeaning volume for the rest of the day, without even asking for my housemates' consent. I couldn't even listen to Blackstar, I was too shaken.

I'll never forget that day, I don't think any other artist will have such an effect. McCartney's death will hit me hard, as will the death of any other Clash members, but Bowie's death was so monumental, I'm still not over it.

Blackstar is wonderful.

And the lyric pages have a memoriam for him.

I'm glad he left us on his..own terms. The best he could get, anyways. Incredible that a man at the end of his tether can still do what he does best.

youtube.com/watch?v=aE__wlvTVg8

Take your legs and run into the death-rays of the sun, aah

user from earlier you were talking to here.

I think you should tonight. I hope you find what you couldn't possibly hope to find in it like I did. But I was one of the few that got to hear the album with one meaning pre-death.

I'm sorry, man. It hits me still, almost everyday.

He means a lot to me and my confidence. As a creative and someone who struggles with living in conservative Christian bubble Tennessee, I try to cling to his inspiration to give me his confidence in my own curious sexuality and creative adventurousness.

I fucking agree, maybe it's because low is more "obscure" and "aquired taste" kinda shit, but station to station flat out jams, my personal fave besides young Americans.

Of course my man. I'll probably get abused on this email or some shit knowing Sup Forums, but oh well.

[email protected]

Why is Diamond Dogs so criminally underrated as well?
It needs to be known on the level of Ziggy.

This song, man. This song.

youtube.com/watch?v=CiydgQymvTE

I love it too, just never bring it up because I never think anyone likes it. Every girl who was a Floyd fan I impressed this album upon them and they loved it. Don't know why.

That's interesting.. Maybe since it's got similar effects on it.
Bowie himself produced it and I'll never not be impressed by that.

Well he was very glam and baroque at that time. Deserves more credit than just being the album Rebel, Rebel came from though.

That album is absolutely theatrical, considering how it was supposed to be a stage play version of 1984, so the Glam is wonderfully employed.
It's the best summary of what he was to that scene, that era.

You're not the first and you certainly won't be the last to be inspired by him in this way. Keep at it.

I'm glad of that. And thanks. I will.

I'm going to start now. I'd hope so, too. I'm excited and a little bit uneasy.

I don't know why either, but by God I'm glad to be in good company.

Diamond Dogs is, literally, a life-changing album for me. I'm a huge, pretentious, rock opera-loving twat with a propensity for distrust in the government, a fear of 1984, and a love of punky theatrics, so Diamond Dogs hit hard and well once I actually sat down and listened to it. This lead to me realizing David Bowie also made Changes, Fame, and Suffragette City, which were all my favorite songs as a kid, and also the Thin White Duke, who I saw in a picture once while re-inventing my style as a teenager and went "Yeah, like that" and has been a strong part of my identity since. He'd been influencing me since day 1 and I didn't know it until I was already past college.

For that alone, the album will always hold a very special place in my heart. And on top of that, it's still one of my favorites of his, and criminally underrated. I could blather for hours about the artistic significance of its many parts, or its cyber-before-cyber, punk-before-punk sound and style, but I won't.

I will say this. The Sweet Thing/Candidate suite is, hands-down, one of his best pieces of music, I love it dearly, and it's stupidly underrated. Also of note is the alternative take of it, which I think is one of his most overtly personal songs and I really, really wish it had made it on there in another form. The build of the song is so fucking amazing.

youtube.com/watch?v=DEmqcADmMJE

It makes me weep that it's the one he got like zero footage of. We at least have rehearsals of Isolar, all we have of Diamond Dogs was Cracked Actor, after he dumped the set, and some bootlegs.

And I'm yet another. I guess the sound will start in the next couple years, I hope.

Every time I listen to the song Station to Station I'm left stunned by it. I just cannot comprehend how someone can make a track that good.

Mordern Love is Bowie saying to the rest of the world "this is how you 80s motherfucker"
awesome shit

Hope you enjoy Blackstar. The title track is mindblowingly good.

I agree that Sweet Thing is one of his best songs. The vocal range at the beginning when he goes from "It's safe in the city" to "will you see, that I'm scared and I'm lonely" in a matter of seconds always gives me chills.

It is. I've listened to it a thousand times, on from November when it dropped and past.

Honestly, I know tons have said it and it's cheesy, but I sort of knew then. There was something about the lyrics, the video so bleak and somewhat demonic, if interesting, beautiful, artistic; somehow I knew then he'd die soon. It felt like a farewell note back then, and I'd hoped I was wrong.

ABSOLUTELY on that vocal range, though. Chilling, beautiful work. There's definitely a reason it was right up top when he made a mixtape of "Favorite things I really liked that I did that I wish more people looked at."