>considers himself a music fan
>Cant play any instrument
Considers himself a music fan
:')
enjoying music/creating music
you fucking nigger i have other hobbies i specialize in
>considers himself a film fan
>never shot a major motion picture
>considers himself a movie fan
>hasn't made any films
>considers himself a music fan
>has never made a single song
>Considers himself an NFL fan
>Doesn't play in the NFL
>watches porn
>hasn't had any sex
this is half of you lmfaoing@ur life literally haha
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>is user on Sup Forums
>makes a fucking awful analogy in greentext
>considers himself a music fan
>doesn't have a record deal and never played a concert
if you play an instrument doesn't that make you less of a music fan and more of a musician
Absolutely correct. If you claim to be interested by an art form, you really can't say that in full earnest if youve never tried it yourself.
Not applicable, not art forms. Stay mad plebs
>considers himself a food lover
>hasn't cooked, or made food, ever
>Makes a terrible post
>Get's meme replies
>considers a sport fan
>doens't play a sport
literally true
>considers himself a film fan
>doens't like to use cameras
>considers himself a Sup Forumstant
>has not listened to all of Sup Forumscore
if this is you APOLOGIZE
>considers himself a rap fan
>has never written a hot 16 and laid it down on a track
what are you even doing with your life
Its only terrible if youre a talentless hack that "likes" music to obtain (or leech, rather) some shred of culture. You're only a consumerist if you cant play, on par with a top 40 listener.
>thinks he's a memer
>has never made an original meme
what about film fans in the past who didn't have access to cameras? were they not le true fans?
ITT: talentless consumerist hacks trying to use irony to mask clear butthurt.
I "like" music because I enjoy listening to it. Is that a concept you're incapable of grasping? Are you mentally handicapped?
>considers himself a fan of literature
>hasn't published any books
>considers himself a fan of film
>hasn't directed a movie
>considers himself a fan of theatre
>hasn't starred in a play
>appreciates painting
>doesn't paint
>considers himself a fan of sports
>doesn't play any
>appreciates photography
>isn't a photographer
>shitposts on Sup Forums
>sucks at it
You're a consumerist even if you do play an instrument, dumbass.
Then you are just a casual consumer. If you are fine with that, so am I.
>consumerist hacks
Did you throw that in just to get more (You)s? Either way, here's yours.
Cool. Your post is still terrible
All of these are absolutely correct. Would hate to not be smart/talented enough to spend lots of time delving into something then not being able to contribute myself.
>consider himself a man
>hasn't even been born yet
ITT: Pseudointellectual projecting his own insecurities about enjoying art.
>Is interested in history
>Hasn't made a major history changing event that will be remembered
yes you are correct, I am a fan, not someone who takes part in the actual creative process
>smart/talented enough to spend lots of time delving into something
Want to know how I know you're either a retard or, like, 18 years old?
History isn't an art form, try again.
but me fucking your mom is
are you guys itt deliberately being retarded
you do realize the point of the OP is that you appreciate an art form far more if you practice or know about the process of creating the art, right?
you don't literally need a book published, or a blockbuster hit released, or a charting pop single for this logic to apply. if you just play one instrument, or have a cursory knowledge of music theory, or write one song, then i guarantee you'll find that you appreciate music much more. contributing to the art form isn't important so much as understanding the art form better by actually learning how it's made and trying to make it yourself, whether you're successful or not. anything less and, yes, you are a consumer and you have a lesser appreciation of music than someone who actually makes music or plays an instrument.
>History isn't an art form
And who are you to say what is Art?
Kek
is mayonnaise an instrument
But I'm smart enough not to try and make a music career. I have much safer options that will almost certainly provide more income
>if you just play one instrument, or have a cursory knowledge of music theory, or write one song, then i guarantee you'll find that you appreciate music much more
This isn't true, though
You don't need to dress up like a clown to enjoy a circus
>hasn't read Aristotle's Poetics
>being a fan means being a creator
no tho
Sup Forums loves to throw around the term "pseud" whenever they can't btfo a point. You can enjoy it, but you can't really appreciatw or understand it without a basic knowledge of music theory or just something as simple as even knowing meme guitar chords.
>he considers himself a god
>hasn't smited an entire race
>consumerist
sure user just assume I spend on music
ITT: Pretentious moron fallaciously attempting to validate his anti-consumerist views whilst being oblivious about the blatant fact that he is also indulging in consumerist practices by simply listening to music regardless of whether he plays an instrument or not.
Doesn't it makes sense that people who play music get it more than people who don;t?
I wish there was a way to tell if someone was a musician here or not so I would know if it's worth discussing them about music. Kinda like Sup Forums where whenever I see a USA flag talking about soccer I GTFO
and you have to buy a fucking instrument to be able to play it
understanding is not required for enjoyment though. nothing wrong with listening to music without playing any instrument as long as you don't go around being a pretentious asshole and claiming to have better taste than everyone
honestly a guy who doesn't play any instrument for whatever reason (maybe not having the time or patience to learn) but still explores music deeply in his free time for enjoyment has better music appreciation than that chad in your high school who only learned to play guitar so he could play wonderwall at parties and impress girls
>he thinks he is a real music fan because he can play smells like teen spirit without knowing anything about music theory
Unless you steal it like a real comrade : ^ )
it's literally true fampai.
being able to play an instrument allows you to foster a greater respect for those who play it well, and you appreciate their virtuosity more.
knowing music theory allows you to identify when musicians are following rules and making fairly blase music, but more importantly, it allows you to identify when a musician BREAKS the rules, which is generally very exciting and makes you appreciate them more. this is especially awesome when the music is really dull on the surface level, like the lyrics are shit or something, but the underlying chord progression is unorthodox and exciting. for example, anyone who thinks the beatles are bad 100% guaranteed knows zero music theory. if they did they would respect the beatles a lot more.
actually writing songs will eventually prove to be quite difficult, so you appreciate successful songwriters who consistently craft insanely good melodies or lyrics a lot more. you also can incorporate their songwriting strategies into your own songwriter which further develops a deeper appreciation of their work.
i say all of this as someone who once didn't know music theory, couldn't play any instruments, and didn't write songs. i appreciate music and connect with artists so much more now that i can. i'm not trying to be pretentious, i'm trying to show you the way, faggot
it's not required, no, but i can almost guarantee it will increase your appreciation further because you actually understand what you're listening to and you can judge and appreciate it on a deeper level than "It sounds cool" or "It's catchy"
also it's pretentious and stupid to think you have better taste than a person whether or not you play or make music desu
>considers himself an anime fan
>isn't 2D
>plays videogames
>has never made a videogame
Of course it does. Would you listen to a non-scientist's opinions about climate change? Would you just go to some random man on the street rather than a doctor about your bleeding anus? Obviously not.
That Sup Forums cannot recognize being able to play even one single instrument gives you a multitude of knowledge about music that regular "fans" or worse, music journalists (music has the 2nd worst journalism after video games) completely shows their ignorance. Sup Forums is the only board here who has created absolutely nothing besides lists of what others has told them is good.
Fucking hell the sticky points to rym of all places.
I was in choir once
Does that count?
usually choirfags just do what they're told and have a very surface level knowledge of theory, just enough to sight read (if even that)
t. choirfag
>Being able to play an instrument is the same as being a scientist
>Being able to play an instrument is the same as being a doctor
>Being able to play an instrument means you know something about music despite never making music or studying music theory
Literally none of these things are true
/thread
Ebin bait thread that seems to have pissed off most of Sup Forums 8/10
why are you so angry about that? so angry it ruined your reading abilities and you got his entire point wrong
Mate the equivalent of a doctor in terms of music is a talented songwriter/musician, not someone who knows a few chords on a fucking piano. That's like saying I can give legitimate medical advice because I bandaged a wound once.
>you can't appreciate music without basic knowledge of music theory
a lot basic music theory is literally just putting a name to things that we intrinsically understand as humans. this knowledge is often helpful and, to some forms at least, even necessary to create music, but really does not aid in the enjoyment of music. your comment also disregards all the music that was created without the music theory, and cultures in which music theory is not even formalised.
Not an art form. Games are and always will be just literal consumerist garbage
You're an uncultured snob if you happen to believe that art is defined by whether it eschews a consumerist model or abides by it.
But I can sing.
Checkmate athiests.
ebic shitpost, you should know that's not true or gtfo this board pleas
Lmao you are unironically implying vidya is art?
Do video games imitate action and demand creativity for their conception?
>considers himself a music fan
that's abysmally autistic
But literally anyone can play an instrument or make music. You can pick up a guitar and start randomly strumming it, even without knowing chords or notes or music theory or whatever you could still make a song
>jerks off to pornography
>has never created pornography
kill yourself if you do this
>Rap kills rock music
>lets it happen
come on guys
I can play ode to joy on the recorder
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Playing any instrument is easy, all you have to do is hit the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.
>likes women
>never tried being one
>fascinated by outer space
>never been there
There reaches a point where its kind of upsetting that people post this shit. Yes, playing an instrument is a worthwhile hobby, yes it lets you appreciate music better than talentless plebs.
Not sure what irony level you're at friendo
if you haven't studied music psychology and can't explain why your brain responds to certain sounds the way it does, then you can't truly appreciate music, regardless of how many instruments you can play tbqh
>considers himself a person
>is dead inside
ITT
>greentext
>analogy meymeys
>considers himself a fan of metal music
>hasn't killed himself in ritual self-sacrifice
Me teebeeaich
>considers himself a fan of life
>hasn't done anything with it
The whole argument that you can't appreciate something without creating something within the field is entirely fallacious for a number of reasons, most of which I won't touch on since other anons have pointed them out.
In capitalist society, it is generally expected that each individual has a role that they exceed at, and trade the wealth accumulated from their specialized labor for goods and services, with music being an example of a good/service.
The reality is most people like art, but suck at making it. That doesn't make them morons, or incompetent, it just means they have things they're better at, and that they could be doing that sell for a higher value. For example, I really like music, and play the clarinet and can read sheet music to play what's written, but my own contributions to written music are exceedingly poor by my own standards. Thus, I found a career doing something that I receive more satisfaction and wealth for doing (Agriculture). Most anons here probably fall into this category of appreciating art without being good enough for it to make sense of them to spend their valuable time making art that very few people will actually like.
In any case, if we run out of food none of you are going to be greentexting on an imageboard about what it takes to appreciate music or any other art form. Also, artists will probably be the first to starve since their labor is always a luxury item and never necessary to survival.
>considers
>can't think
>considers himself a music fan
>struggles to empathise
OOOOOOOHHHH
yeah ok same but its just the fuckin elitist over here just cant get off his high horse and is baiting mates who arent so great at an instrument like me
imo sucking at an instrument after hardr work just makes u appreciate music more its like "wow howd they do that"
>considers himself a videogame fan
>haven't created a videogame.
I've fapped to a video of myself
>posts on image board
>never hosted one
>considers himself a fan of kendrick lamar and kanye west
>isn't black
d-delete this
>considers himself an animal lover
>doesnt fuck his dog on a regular basis