Explain to me how this is anything more than your average ditsy pop music

Explain to me how this is anything more than your average ditsy pop music

*raises spork*

I've never listened to this album or this band, but fuck you

it has busier and more atmospheric production

You cant

you've already made up your mind, theres no point in explaining anything.

it has violins and backmasked pornography

first, define 'average' 'ditsy' and 'pop' so we are all on the same lebel

>average ditsy pop music
average ditsy pop music

It's very easy: name a similar album. I mean it. Try to find just ONE similar album, one with angry-industrial tunes like Scream, alt rock tunes like FWB, synth-rock oddities like Kill V. Maim, classical pieces like laughing and not being normal and Life in the Vivid Dream, country-synthpop tunes like California, electro-ballads like REALiTi, etc. Go ahead.

And by the way, name a singer with the same range and tone as Grimes.

Didn't you hear? it's average ditsy pop music now.

It really is the vanguard release of the decade. A lot of artists/producers have spent this year in hiding trying to understand how she did it and how to emulate it. Next years pop should be interesting.

You're wrong, it's worse than that.

Don't say that.

What a "revelation"... If this is average ditsy pop music, I'm the pope.

its really sad the only ppl who know anything about music on this board. is too busy shilling for grimes

Careful with that edgy opinion. You may cut yourself.

Anyone who knows anything about music and is open minded likes this album. Even the critics loved it.

I find the people who passionately hate this artist as cringe and insufferable as the ones that fight until they are blue in the face that she is relevant and is credible.

Literally a division over something so banal and insignificant, in both the worlds of art and popular music. Respectively.

I'll admit I've only listened to it a few times, but I was fairly aware of grimes before I found out she was a meme.
I would disagree with your opinion of how accessible it is. I think it is something people can latch on to, as it is just trendy enough and pushes the right combination of buttons to do all your thinking and talking for you, without having to express anything yourself.

"hey i like grimes, yeah you've either not heard of her or love her. if you hate her, then you just hate modern society and music"

what about nitsy

>Literally a division over something so banal and insignificant, in both the worlds of art and popular music. Respectively.
Quality bait, pal. If there's so much controversy I'm afraid you're wrong: Grimes is not banal (no one is like her; I challenge you to name another artist that did the same kind of music and has the same relatable personality) and not insignificant (she already started to get props from the music world, from Elton John and Shirley Manson to Taylor Swift, The Avalanches, Jay Z, Tegan and Sara). Talking about relevance, let's not forget her daily threads on mooooooo.

>Literally a division over something so banal and insignificant, in both the worlds of art and popular music. Respectively.
Quality bait, pal. If there's so much controversy I'm afraid you're wrong: Grimes is not banal (no one is like her; I challenge you to name another artist that did the same kind of music and has the same relatable personality) and not insignificant (she already started to get props from the music world, from Elton John and Shirley Manson to Taylor Swift, The Avalanches, Jay Z, Tegan and Sara). Talking about relevance, let's not forget her daily threads on mooooooo.

why?

>I find the people who passionately hate this artist as cringe and insufferable as the ones that fight until they are blue in the face that she is relevant and is credible.
I guess you're the latter.

She'll be like The XX in a few years. Everyone will look back and think "hey they did some stuff", and then just not care.

I don't think so. The xx did a great debut and an underwhelming follow up, while Grimes did 2 great but obscure albums, followed by a great split EP, followed by her breakthrough with Visions, followed by an even bigger commercial and critical success, Art Angels. Breaking news: her profile is growing day by day. If you think that now she's overexposed on Sup Forums, see what will happen when her next album will drop. Grimes is very savvy and played her cards right so far.

In other words, the dogs bark (you haters), but the caravan (Grimes and her fanbase) goes on. ;)

weird comparison

not really. a pretty out there group who bust the mainstream as well as retaining a somewhat artistic related fanbase.

I'm afraid you're just looking at it through a fan's glasses.

Only time will tell, huh?

By the way, The xx still have a huge fanbase, Don't underestimate them. 3.7M followers on Facebook isn't something to be ashamed about.

>Only time will tell, huh?
Yeah. But you could predict (kinda) the future by analyzing the past. In 2012 people said she is just a flash in a pan. See now: she's bigger than ever. She has the actual talent to make great albums for years.

Nah, its a stupid comparison. And the xx were never an "out there" group. That doesn't make sense either. Maybe google a little bit about the artists before you make posts on here?

I don't see it as "average ditsy pop." I don't see it as "good" either. I loved Visions but Grimes has really fallen. I don't see her recovering from this.

The xx were and are far more normal compared to Grimes. They don't have some wild stuff like Scream, Kill V. Maim, Omega, Shadout Mapes and Circumambient in their discography for a start.

>The xx were and are far more normal compared to Grimes

thats my point you cockstep. Fucking read.

>I don't see her recovering from this.
Recovering? But she's on top, dude. She's in a better position than before. Do you think she's an ordinary artist to repeat her past albums, like AC/DC?

What's wrong with you, dumbass? I supported your argument. Did I say you're wrong? Fucking read.

>Do you think she's an ordinary artist to repeat her past albums, like AC/DC?
I didn't expect her to repeat her last album. I just expected her to release something listenable.

>I just expected her to release something listenable
Art Angels is super listenable. In fact there's no other album that I played more this year than AA. What's not to like about it? Develop a taste for upbeat alternative rock/synthpop, first.

Art Angels very much has a pop arrangement and lyrical style, and maybe pop sounds to some extent, but the beats on it are pretty exotic and aggressive for pop.

Compare it to something like Emotion Side B, and it kind of seems like a different genre.

I think it did stick to safe pop arrangements too closely, but it's better than the vast majority of pop out there.

She just wanted to make her proper pop album. I think she succeeded perfectly.

Also good point about the beats. Some of these beats remind me of The Prodigy and Underworld.

its a good pop album. might change the game but I think grimes talent is limited. shes more of the messenger not the messiah
I expect much better aggressive pop albums to come blowing AA out the window

AA will go down as the precursor to starting the trend of making better pop.

>I expect much better aggressive pop albums to come blowing AA out the window
I highly doubt it. AA is pop only on the surface, in reality it's too aggressive and weird to ever be mainstream. Could you picture someone like Beyonce or Taylor Swift singing Kill V. Maim? The mainstream music fans would rather listen to something tame like CRJ's Emotion (and even that album wasn't too successful).

People just don't get how unique and amazing AA really is. It will be a classic of this decade, mark my words.

>I highly doubt it. AA is pop only on the surface, in reality it's too aggressive and weird to ever be mainstream.
you are thinking too close minded. I guarantee you a whole new crop of pop artist will be inspired by this album and top it. Beyonce whole thing is too hire the old guard of talented people to stay relevant. her time is done for

> It will be a classic of this decade, mark my words.
nope that already belongs to kendrick lamar.

Again its a great pop album in my top 3 besides john maus-we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves and dean blunts -black metal.

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>It will be a classic of this decade, mark my words.
>a classic
>a

>I guarantee you a whole new crop of pop artist will be inspired by this album and top it.
I'd like to see that, but maybe it's not gonna happen. To make an album like AA you have to have Grimes' taste in art, her weird voice, her past experiences, her songwriting and production skills. Like Bjork, Grimes is a rare artist, one in a million.

>nope that already belongs to kendrick lamar.
There's room for more albums. AA is 100% one of them. Visions, too.

>Again its a great pop album in my top 3 besides john maus-we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves and dean blunts -black metal.
I really like that John Maus album. I lost count how many times I listened to it. Grimes should collaborate with him.

>ditsy