>rising sea levels >mass extinction of fish vital to the livelihoods of millions >erosion of topsoil/destruction of arable farm land >desertification/droughts/water scarcity
>increase of global instability as a result of the significant increase of potential conflicts between groups of people/states
>literal pentagon orders to prioritize combating climate change
amerishart trump supporters will still defend his flat out denial of the severity of climate change because >muh whiteness >WE WUZ ANGLO SAXON >muh immigration >muh white identity >muh short term """""""'""prosperity"""""""'"",
why are alt right amerisharts so proud of being cucked by big energy corporations?
Sup Forums denies it being caused by mankind. For some reason they then go on and ignore that even if it's not man made, the climate is changing anyways, and that could fuck up a lot of countries and societies
Charles Bell
Can't wait till Miami is underwater
James Price
>the effects of climate change will be equally distributed across the globe nah dude
Luis Perry
And ? They are right, in hard times there is a need for strong community.
Owen Hughes
>the climate is changing anyways It's cyclical.
>Can't wait till Miami is underwater Icebergs melting won't effect sea levels. Ice floats because it's less dense than water. It displaces the same volume of water that it would occupy if melted. Buoyancy, and all that.
Most of the ice caps are ice shelf or icebergs (in/above water, not land). Parts of the ice caps will raise the sea level as they melt. But only slightly.
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There's a special brand of idiot that buys a home in the area a dam floods very few decades. They usually complain when their house gets flooded, despite deliberately buying a cheap house in a flood zone. Never mind that the dam is the only reason the whole region doesn't flood every few years.
Complaining about the ice caps (or the glaciers) melting is silly. Of course that shit is melting, the last glacial period ended like, 12,000 years ago. The only reason that ice is still around is that there was *so much* of it.
Aiden Hill
>Most of the ice caps are ice shelf or icebergs (in/above water, not land). Not really. The antartica is literally a continent sized ice block above sea level. And it isn't just the ice melting that worry scientists, but the salinity change that affects sea currents, and the liberation of methane into the atmosphere.
Easton Flores
Antartica is slightly larger than Australia, but that's including the enormous ice shelfs. >but the salinity change that affects sea currents, and the liberation of methane into the atmosphere. This I'll give you, but there's nothing we can do about that. You can displace heat, you can't destroy it. That shit as going to happen either way. Life will adapt, as it has many times.
Nathan Hall
we're already 85% wasteland, I can't imagine how much worse it can get
Logan Bell
Let me remind you that 90% of every major extinction event was caused by drastic climate change. And while humanity can adapt, a rise on sea levels by a few meters will fuck up any coastal society, and something like what? 30% of humans live near the sea? Either they die, and that's a huge fucking tragedy, or they don't die and have to be relocated. As in literal billions of climate refugees. Europe appears to be crumbling with a few millions already. I think an island in the middle of the indian ocean is set to relocate all of its inhabitants in a few years.
Cooper Gutierrez
Nothing we can do will stop that. Don't move to a disaster areas.
Hudson Stewart
The Netherlands will just teraform its land.
We already have glass cities underneath agriculture is done.
Christopher Rivera
And on our Islands people already drink sea water.
Joseph Nelson
>Europe appears to be crumbling with a few millions already
Good, all according to plan
Wyatt Hall
Well, it's predicted that some areas will receive less rain, and the little water there is there will evaporate faster, so hidro plants working there will stop doing their thing or produce just a fraction of their installed capability. Same thing for agriculture. So, governments can start building stuff like nuclear powerplants and fund research on cheaper desalinization methods to begin with. We might not be able to stop climate change, but we still could start to get ready to manage some of its effects
Andrew Cooper
And we already build houses on water.
>nature is still in control of his country lmao
Mason Rogers
Good. The rationing and strong dependence on hightech irrigation and ultra compact autarc food and goodsproduction will ake our evil U/pol/tia were thousands of xenophobic, isolationist arcology states hold their population under absolute control and culturally varying eugenic standarts. muahahahahaha
Adrian Hughes
In India, Chili, Pakistan, Vietnam and Venezuela they use 2000 liters of water, to grow which we only need 7 liters of water for.
Liam Carter
Cant you stackem even higher?
Blake Cooper
They are working on that. In the future they want to build flats with fully automated agriculture in them.
Forget the Jews, are the Dutch the dark force behind global warming?
Robert Peterson
That's not "running on water" that's "running on hydrogen". You use energy from something else to make the hydrogen. Essentially, you're just converting the energy storage. And there's some inefficiency in the conversion.
Way less than that ethanol bullshit, but at the end of the day the power is coming from somewhere else.
Michael Evans
you do realise hydrogen is a meme right?
Daniel Young
It's not a meme, because you can easily store it and just fill it up, unlike conventional electric cars.
You can convert solar, wind and tidal energy into hydrogen.
Grayson Richardson
The alt right is a scattered internet youth movement about opposing multiculturalism, mass immigration and basically just want idealistic demographic and cultural revival. They're not anti environmental. Alt right is like .9% of the US so far and trump denounced us completely.
The anti environmental groups are Neoliberal capitalists, mainstream nonracist conservatives and libertarians. That's 98% of republicans and have billions in funds
Also lel at sudacas getting triggered at first workers again
Xavier Hall
Hopefully it destroys humanity. Normies deserve it.
Angel Sullivan
>Belgium It's obvious where Belgium ends and the future begins.
>wait for a week and your tank is empty >unless you liquify it >which involves temperatures of 20° above absolute zero >in the end you still end up with an empty tank
>just fill it up, unlike conventional electric cars this is basically the only advantage it has over battery powered cars, that and the weight+range.
>You can convert solar, wind and tidal energy into hydrogen. lmao >instead of using electric power for the power grid, let's turn electricity into hydrogen back into electric power again guess which process has by far the lowest rendement and is also extremely expensive, needing rare metals like platina and shit for the fuel cells
Parker Perry
Didn't Trump changed his mind on climate change?
James Price
>You can convert solar, wind and tidal energy into hydrogen. You can convert anything into anything. Dank meme list tho.
Solar panels are a laundry list of bullshit. Total garbage option. Concentrated solar power is p-OK though. But it needs a dedicated facility. Can't just plaster it everywhere there's space. Speaking of space, both use oodles of space for near worthless output.
Wind isn't cost effective. Don't really have anything else to say about that. Subsidize it and it's passable. Subsidizing is a good idea when you aren't force/defend trade though.
Tidal is actually a great idea. It's a shame they have such tight geological constraints. There's what, 20 place we know of that they can work in?
Jason Garcia
>Subsidizing is *isn't
Logan Rogers
The problems of the earth dying? I think that's more important than your little retarded beliefs
It's common for the anglo to be a selfish and arrogant piece of shit, no suprises
Evan Moore
We're actually one of the worst European countries when it comes to green energy due to our oil refineries and the fact that we have the biggest natural gas field in Europe.
But our energy companies are planning to make Islands with windmills offshore on Doggersbank.
David Ortiz
We're still doing it. Everyone always cries things are impossible. But we constantly prove everyone wrong.
Article 2, points A through D all apply to mass immigration and top-down imposed feminism. Largely wrought by jews, though if you don't already accept that fact I doubt you'll be receptive to looking up what ethnicity controls virtually all institutions in the west aswell as lobbies disproportionately for homosexuality, "female enfranchisement" and a host of other divisive -isms that serve to bring down Europid birthrates.
Juan Fisher
by using processes that even a child can see it's inefficient? But hey, at least your car itself isn't emitting anything, and maybe politicians are dumb enough to subsidise your bullshit.
Noah Bennett
Regardless of the manmade-ness of global warming, in the longterm we're looking at resource depletion, drout, plastic/chemical/medicinal contamination, superresistant viruses etc.
We can deal with our environmental problems once we have cohesive societies capable of something other than identitypolitics for the only race that is actually both able and willing to solve said environmental problems.
The coming century will be extremely bloody and rough. As someone said, environmental refugees will make this flood of fake Syrians look like nothing. If we don't harden up and enforce our borders with violence we WILL be flooded by brown scum who WILL tear our societies apart. There will be every kind of scarcity you can imagine. The only surplus we'll have will be in incapable mudpeople. Exterminationism on a global scale will become more and more appealing and eventually people may have to look the other way as some Dark Knight We Need But Don't Deserve launches (preferably genotype-specific) bioweapons on the seething hotbeds of human-shaped biological waste sometimes called shitskins.
You can't set aside ethnic tribalism and democratically reach some insanely strict environmental goals, let alone in the short time we have. Culling is the only option and I suggest we start with the verifiably useless. Gradual steps like forcing feminism on the third world is like trying to run away from a bullet. To be effective, any "green movement" needs to be ruthlessly authoritarian and to uncompromisingly 100% follow where the science leads it, unobstructed by emotion, human rights or the popular will.
Also I would rather leave behind a scorched, dead planet than hand over the Earth to swarthy hordes of people incapable of stewarding it anyway.
Yes, servility to the economy needs to go. If we must kill off 99% of humans and have the rest live in mud huts while we scramble to build spaceships capable of colonizing another planet, so be it.
Easton Sanders
>Killing members of the group; Immigration doesn't kill the natives. Immigrants who commit murder are either deported or imprisoned. >Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; If immigration causes you mental harm, you have a problem. >Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Nobody is being physically destroyed by immigration, and it's not deliberate. >Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; Homosexuality is not being forced onto people to prevent them from having kids. People can't choose to be homosexual, they're born that way. And women choosing of their own free will to not have kids is not genocide. You just sound salty because girls don't like you.
Grayson Watson
>Homosexuality is not being forced onto people
He is a swede man, its different in the north for them.
Kayden Morgan
They say Shell is owned by our monarchy for 25%. So if our government wants energy independence they can supply it. Through hydrogen.
Carson Kelly
fffffffffffffffffffffffff
I always thought that should you ever elect a megalomaniac he would try to uplift the doggerbank, but you actually wanna do it now already!
John Carter
>the island nations near us will be flooded and we'll be forced to take in the brown refugees ah yes
Colton Nguyen
You will get an inland sea tho.
Caleb Walker
Dude. You have ice blocks the size of Texas breaking off from Antarctica regularly. Look at a satellite image of the continent 35 years ago and compare it to now. If that doesn't strike you as some serious shit, then I don't know what will.
Adam Wright
Why does the far right always come off like a death cult? They're always predicting massive amounts of violence is just over the horizon, and they get a fucking hard on for it.
Mason Ward
yeah hopefully it'll drown some abos haha
Oliver Nelson
>(((they))) i'm just trying to point out that you have to be sceptical with meme-words like hydrogen and """green""" energy in general. I've already mentioned why it probably isn't such a good idea or miracle solution unless you have shares in the Shell company anyway i'm going to bed now
Matthew Smith
Survival of the fittest. To them the mere existence of other races is a mortal threat to your own race. And your own well-being is less important, as you are merely a branch of the genetic tree that is your race.
Hudson Reed
>death cult
Nah, not that. Its just that they see war/conflict as the easiest vehicle to legitimize rash and sudden change regardless of the ethic implications.
Jeremiah Jackson
Shell was born after a merger between the Dutch petroleum company, mostly owned by our monarchy, and a British oil company. It's only a question if they sold off their stocks over the years or not.
David Reyes
"muh free will" People are heavily influenced by societal norms and if we'd stuck to traditional social mores we wouldn't have unsustainable birthrates because women would fulfill their actual biological imperative rather than stock shelves at departmentstores for minimum wage. Fags would also stay in the closet and form families instead. Abortion, contraception speak for themselves.
Look at rates of violence and murder and crossreference that with graphs on immigration patterns to any western nation of your choice. If murders are disproportionately committed by immigrants and you keep adding more immigrants, the results should be pretty obvious but more importantly, the results are virtually statistically inevitable. Let's not even get into miscegenation because you'll suddenly stop pretending there exist distinct peoples/ethnicities and a kid is just a kid even though it's clearly of different ethnicity than the white parent thus making it applicable to point D.
Mental harm goes under any crime committed against a native by an invader. Perhaps after hundreds of years, Americans actually enjoy nigger gangrape and go through it unscathed though, I dunno.
Who are you to say this is not calculated? It's quite clearly an outgroup bringing most of this into being while their own ethnostate does the opposite.
Anyway you are probably a shitskin yourself so you'll never see reason and will have to be liquidated :^)
>the mere existence of other races is a mortal threat to your own race.
Yep, because the rest of the world operates on tribalism even if you don't, white man. Look at shitskin sentiment on immigration and tell me otherwise. Subconsciously they know they're invading and push their tribe's interests.
Dylan Campbell
The monarchy originally owned 40% of Shell. So it's not unreasonable to think they still own a large part.
Austin Butler
So the core of your reasoning seems to be that you can't accept this something white people are doing on their own, that the "destruction" of the white race has to be deliberately orchestrated by an outside group. Well if that's true, white people deserve to be genocided for being weak. All you do is complain about your "genocide" on the internet.
Jackson Watson
I honestly think if more migrants move here it could lead to violence. The map of Europe clearly shows what Europeans think about multiculturalism. And the Muslims that live here are testing the patience of Europeans. But once a certain amount of Muslims live in Europe they will seek the conflict out themselves and i'm pretty sure Europeans will respond in kind.
Leo Wood
Which is unfortunate for the other minorities who do have good intentions. Because they will get caught up in it as well.
Dominic Foster
The only things that live there are 12 trailer trucks. The only things built there are like, maybe 4 roads.
It's an uninhabited wasteland.
Luis Miller
Knowing is half the battle. Informing people of creeping demographic displacement and jewish involvement is resistance, just like fending off an invading army is resistance to another kind of genocide. Why do you deem only one form of resistance invalid and say that those afflicted should just keel over? Once enough people are willing to listen we'll see if it comes to blows or if boxcars and deportation squads will suffice. If we're going with survival of the fittest, which I agree with, then why do you deny whites the right to inform their own? Surely you should think it's more admirable to inform ourselves so we can go about racial separatism peacefully rather than resort to racewar? Though I am pretty sure it's inevitable that racial tension and polarization will reach the point where civilwars will have to be fought.
Do you also apply survival of the fittest to slavery, colonialism, settling the Americas, the crusades etc? You must think the brown people who suffered all that had it coming? Gee, look at this fascist skin-hater.
The other minorities are outgroups who largely ride on the coattails of Europe anyway. They're just not (as) intrusive when in smaller numbers. And it won't even require more immigration, it'll just take the islamic radicalization of the youth and deteriorating racerelations, both of which are ever ongoing. Even if we closed the borders, their birthrates will make sure we're slowly displaced if we look at demographic projections. Policies aimed at increasing the birthrate of native populations would be decried as racist by the usual hooknosed suspects. Not that we'd ever have a chance at rivalling r-selected shitskins in babymaking anyway. And why should we be forced to in our own nations? I'd prefer we socially engineer our birthrates roughly in accord with projected future labor needs, as automation will decimate the need for labor. When we hit the automation ceiling we should aim for replacement births.
Brody Ross
I'm not denying you the right to do anything. In just calling you an idiot. That's pretty SJW tier if you think that's trampling on your rights.
Austin Johnson
>Even if we closed the borders, their birthrates will make sure we're slowly displaced if we look at demographic projections. That's actually not the case here. Their population stabilises from the third generation and on. The Dutch population decreases but the migrant population would not increase. So if you close the borders chances are the migrants delute into the local population that (still) outnumbers them.
Indonesians here dont even look like Asians anymore.
Jace Howard
You have blue eyed and blonde haired """"Indonesians""" here with black haired and brown skinned sisters. Its really odd because you see families that look like they arent even from the same race.
Brandon Edwards
You're changing the subject. You deem it invalid to inform others of their people's plight which obviously needs to be the first step to counteraction. Without enough people knowing we wouldn't have the people necessary to forcibly change things anyway. You hold white people to a higher standard because you know deep down that that's required to achieve some kind of parity between the races. Admit that if Africa can't resist colonists they deserve working the diamondmines and being raped by pith-helmet wearing britbongs.
The Euro nations that are worst off have like 15-25% shitskins at this point, probably more if you count illegals. Britain, Sweden, France, Germany. When you say stabilises, do you mean it reaches the average native Dutch birthrate? And that's three generations down the line so they're still gonna be growing for over half a century into the future. Even if they stabilize, do you even want them there? Do you believe in multiculturalism, does it make your country stronger, does it make your people happier? Crimerates, welfare-recipients? Is it worth the rape of tens of thousands of Dutch girls? Future labor needs? Dare I say racial purity? Can you absorb 20% arab and negroid DNA and call yourself dutch or swedish or german? This is delusion and pathological altruism - being governed by absolute suicidal selflessness or worse, the simple fear of being branded a racist.
I can't even imagine the amount of suffering and internal division nations would have to undergo before everyone is properly merged into a browner race of lower IQ and a predisposition to lactose intolerance. Most countries wouldn't survive that internal clash.
Dylan Adams
I'm "changing the subject" because I'm a dumb phoneposter who doesn't have time to reply to your walls of text. >Admit that if Africa can't resist colonists they deserve working the diamondmines and being raped by pith-helmet wearing britbongs. And Geeks deserve to be enslaved by Turks? And Iberians by North Africans? And Russians by Mongols? Anyways, I think colonialism is wrong because I have empathy. I was taught the golden rule growing up, don't do to others what you don't want done to you.
Parker Barnes
I meant their fertility rate is such that they simply sustain themselves without increasing or decreasing in numbers. And we have 12% non-western migrants.
I dont mind the prople from the colonies that much. But I dont see the added value either as most are simply a burden. And importing Muslims or people from Africa makes zero sense from any perspective.
Connor Lewis
Most of those 12% currently are second and third generation.
Sebastian Bell
Replacement level birthrate is about 2.1 per woman. As I recall, no native population of any western nation has that. IIRC, France comes close at 1.9. So even at replacement, if you extrapolate far enough, Dutch are probably set to be a minority eventually anyway. But I don't need to belabor this point, we're clearly basically in agreement.
Then you must think the colonization going on in Europe right now is wrong too because empathy and golden rule (I doubt arabs, nigs or kikes want to be displaced). Cool. Could've said so from the start :^)
Hunter Butler
>Colonization by force is the same thing as legal immigration in a democratic country
