Didn't score a single point in the 4th quarter

>didn't score a single point in the 4th quarter
>7 turn overs
>took 17 shots and only scored 19 points
>chucked up 5 3 pointers and only made one

Can anyone tell me why people actually believe this fat sack of garbage is better than Larry bird

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Fuck if I know, he has as many titles as non-Shaq'd Kobe, both of which were purchased for a reasonable rate.

Good to know players who skip college will always end up fucked, tho.

Bird was far more skilled. Lebron's game is 100% his atheltism. It is sad to see a guy who has been in the nba 13 fucking years, have like zero offensive game. Can't shoot, no post moves, no real pet move at all. He just lowers his head and runs to the rim. If Bird had Lebron's atheltism he would have been Godly. If Lebron had Birds atheltism, Lebron would be a role player coming off the bench.

Bird WAS Godly.

Learn your fucking history.

Pretty much this. He has the build to be a threat in the low post but he never posts people up.

Just an arrogant piece of shit who probably believes he is too good to be coached in any aspect of his game so he has little to no finesse. Can't wait until his athleticism fades (already starting to) and he experiences a big decline

I am aware of that. Imagine him as fast and as explosive as Lebron, on top of his own skill. He would have been putting up 40 per night with ease.

>imagine if he were muscular and manly and all sweaty in tight shorts, he could crash into other men with ease

Bird could shoot 3's at will, he didn't need to crash the boards. And 3's are more points than a dunk, brofam.

Because most people who believe this has never actually seen bird play

>didn't score a single point in the 4th quarter

I don't even think he played in the 4th quarter and if he did it wasn't for long.

A king dies, a legend lives forever.

>he didn't need to crash the boards
Bird was an incredible rebounder. He literally averaged 10.0 RPG for his career.

>Warriors win both at home
>Everyone talks about how the Warriors are great, Cavs suck
>series goes back to CLE, where the Cavs have been godly
>Cavs win game 3, we have to listen to Warriors-haters and Lebron-cucks for another couple days
>Warriors win game 4 & 5 easily

We've done this all before, let's just get it over with and move on to MLB + NFL season.

I meant offensively.

Even offensively, he peaked at 7-8,5 ORB%. Those are decent numbers by center/power forward standards

In a way not even playing is worse

Who cares if it's a blowout, you found still go out with the mentality you can still win

When niggers irl are sucking his cock, I bring up his lack of post moves and reliance on athleticism and then go full muh muh stats.

Its pretty comical.

They pulled him for the 4th, thinking he needed to rest and that they could just go win 2 in Cleveland and be right back in the series.

But they're wrong.

You put Larry Bird on Lelbron and he'll score 30 a game.

You put Lelbron on Larry B and he'll score 20.

Don't be a stat whore. Era stats don't translate

>lenigger keeping Larry bird to under 20

You are a moron.
Bird could score in just about every way. Off the dribble, in the post and from the outside. Lebron can drive......that's it. Bird would rape Lebron in a scoring battle. Lebron is also a very overrated defender. And he has never faced a guy like Bird. That fucking includes guys like KD and Melo. Bird was superior to those guys.

This, lebeta is really not that good at defense. He over commits to trying to pick off passes and all his run back blocks are a direct result of his turn over to begin with

WE WERE BASKETBALL PLAYERS AND VARIOUS OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT

Players who went to college > Players who skipped college

It's an important part in the growth of a players game, and Lebron took the money. And like so many before him, his game suffered.

Larry Bird is the GOAT
youtube.com/watch?v=K5o1rd09R1Q

>some douche in his living room counting down his own personal best
DON'T CAAAAAAAAAAAARE

viralhoops.com/larry-bird-trash-talk/
read this article then

he didn't score a single point in the 1st quarter of game 2 either. Which is worse since he actually played it for about 9 minutes.

He didn't score any points in the 1st either, if I recall correctly.

Bron shits on Bird defensively.

You also can't honestly tell me that if you had to pick a guy to build a team around you'd take Bird ahead of LeBron.

youtube.com/watch?v=1Z0Eblu1Aaw

Kobe developed his game pretty well for not going to college

>Australian talking about anything

Opinion discarded

The fact that he pissed off Dr J is amazing. Erving is one of the most layer back guys in nba history.

>lebron should be dpoy, he can defend 1-5
>calls for a switch every time an offensively challenged C appears within 4 feet

youtube.com/watch?v=1Rg1sFMxnbM

>pretty well
>needed a college player (Shaq) to round out championship teams
>only won two without Shaq, thanks to superior funding... the same way Lebron won his two
... K

I would take bird 100% over lebron to build a team around. Better passer, better scorer, better leader, better team player, and more clutch. The only thing leshit can be said to have on him is athleticism and maybe defense. Athleticism fades and since he doesn't develop skills he doesn't even make the most of it anyway and as mentioned earlier in the thread he is overrated on defense (and in general), so the smart choice is bird

Also, your opinion means nothing you dingo fucking faggot

Good post

>atheltism
This is not a word, you fucking tool.

I said pretty well first off you nigger, and second he actually had skills unlike lenigger. He had a post game, he had a pretty good jumper, he didn't rely exclusively on athleticism. Lefaggot won't last nearly as long in the league as kobe did and it's because kobe developed his game

underrated post

>series goes back to CLE, where the Cavs have been godly
>Lost 2 games in the playoffs last year at home
>Got BTFO by Golden State earlier this year
>Godly

Lebron at minimum still plays on par with average.
It's not like Jordan was an amazing shooter either; nor was Kobe.

What I don't understand is Lebron not using his athleticism enough. If I were Lebron, I would just dig my shoulder as hard as I can to whoever gets in my way and lay it up or dunk it. You have to show people that no one will ever stop you, or they will get injured trying.

Jordan has the best mid range shot of all time

>What I don't understand is Lebron not using his athleticism enough
You me and everyone else

I understand why he's not using it in the regular season. But the finals?

Literally charge someone. Stop letting people think you just bullrush the hoop, and ACTUALLY do it. Make someone regret shuffling their feet.

He didn't play the 4th quarter but he also didn't score in the first quarter either
should be

>didn't score a single point in the first quarter
>gave up and didn't even play in the 4th quarter
>7 turn overs
>took 17 shots and only scored 19 points
>chucked up 5 3 pointers and only made one

>be lebron
>shooting 70%+ in the first quarter
>all layups or dunks
>bodying little lads all over the place
>second half comes round
>"now's the time to unleash my jumper"
>contested from 25ft
>airball
>remember you're a sub-30% 3 point shooter
>"i'll show the haters, just need to take a few more jumpers"

And that's how you turn a 10 point league into a 30 point loss

WE WERE BASKETBALL PLAYERS, DUDE.

>It's not like Jordan was an amazing shooter either; nor was Kobe.

wat?

Jordan had one of the best post games for a guard, ever. His fade away jumper was unstoppable.

Jordan probably was the greatest midrange shooter in nba history. He was a deadly shooter from 12-20 feet.

Cavs were already losing by the half m8

LeCuck is still a terrible shooter

Now respond to the rest of the post, you mong.

holy cherry picking, batman!

let's coveniently ignore that bron entered the league as a teenager on a garbage team and bird was part of a legendary dynasty with guys like robert parrish and kevin mchale.

or that bird only avg'd 25+ ppg four times in his career while bron playing for 13 seasons has only been under 25ppg once. bird never averaged 30ppg, bron has. bird over 50% five times in his career, bron six.

bron only began playing with all stars in the latter half of his career, bird had the luxury of developing and playing with mchale a hall of famer and parrish a nine time all star and hof lock, his whole career.

...

>calls out cherry picking
>cherry picks even harder to make lecuck look better
:^)

The that dynasty was legendary was bird. Workout him they would have been an average team, with him they were without a doubt one of the best teams ever.

I like how you conveniently ignore that bird played in an Era with less shooting and more physical defense. Or that bird was a 50/40/90 guy while lebron shot sub 70% free throws in the finals now. And of course, most pertinent given the context of your absolutely terrible opinion and the situation lebeta finds himself in, bird was clutch and can be expected to lead his team in tight games and high pressure situations while lebeta is a liability. A chucking, choking, turnover machine of a liability

Lebron is not a terrible mid range shooter either, he just doesn't shoot enough of it to really get a good sample size.

This boggles my mind everyone I see freaks like Dwight Howard and Lebron play. Back when Shaq was in his prime, some centres got out of the way because he would just hurt you if you tried to stop him.

I do agree he was being reckless with his 3 point shots. But can you blame him? Kyrie and Love have not showed up either.

Lebron is pretty good 12-20 ft. That's like a hook shot.

>you're only allowed to cherry pick if it supports le lebron hate me me!
sorry i'm bored of reading your blatanlty one sided tired lebron hate driven facebook tier "stats".

fact is bird played his whole career with a trio of hall of famers whereas bron only began to play with anybody comparable when he joined miami and now, where love and irving are no where near the level as champion proven goats like mchale and parrish.

>But can you blame him?
Yes.

C'mon, man. Its been proven time and time again - one man cannot win am NBA championship. Nobody has ever done it (modern era). This is especially hard when you are facing a team whose bench is composed of players that are actually starters.

And for the record, asides from his ball-handling skills, I think Kyrie is nothing but a regular all-star. Not the superstar everyone keeps making him out to be. I feel the same way about Kevin Love.

Also, forgot to mention J.R. Smith is playing like he's scared to take a shot.

>I can't find anymore stats to cherry pick my argument so I'll just insult everyone who disagrees and then disengage

Good fucking riddance then you stupid bitch, you should go to a board more in line with what you're good at and what you know so you can actually contribute to a thread in a positive way like /lgbt/

Fuck off with your excuses. If his team mates are not good enough, that's entirely on him. He left Pat Riley and Dwyane Wade to become the de facto GM, coach and primary superstar of the Cavs. He got the team mates he wanted (and people were literally calling for him to be given Executive of the Year for assembling such a great team), he got the coach he wanted. And he's still not delivering the titles that he promised. He's got an entire franchise doing whatever the fuck he wants, going WAY over the salary cap to re-sign the player he wants, and firing the coach he doesn't like.

Fuck off with your excuses.

Hakeem did

Also a) he chose his teammates b) his teammates are not dog shit c) he has checked out like a little bitch once again

Also
>Canada
>worthwhile basketball opinion

Choose one

Hakeem didn't win shit without Kenny Smith

lol kenny smith hahahahahaaaaaa

The fact is dudes like Kenny Smith and Shaun Livingston are better shooting guards as the second option than guys like Kyrie.

Well, the excuses are at least reasonable. Though, I am a fan of Lebron, I am fully aware that his leadership skills are not as great as Jordan's or Stockton's, for example. However, he is still one hell of a player , definitely generational (once in a decade kind). I don't claim to be an Uber expert in basketball matters, but I've played and watched the game since I was little and can form a reasonable opinion about it based on my experience (used to play in a league as well as for my school's).

Was he not with Clyde Drexler?
Also, it's just my opinion. Whether you want to read it and analyze it or whatever is completely up to you. However, since it had merited response, I am going to assume it is at least a reasonable argument that I am putting forth for you guys.

Also, with regards to getting the teammates he wanted - just because he got the teammates he wanted, it doesn't mean that the Cavs were going to be great. I'm fairly certain everyone was iffy on the Love signing, since he does not play defence at an elite level. Kyrie couldn't even bring his team close to a playoff spot in the east; this should've been already noted that he was not playing at a superstar level.

retard

Bird is quite possibly the best of all time, being compared to Bird should be considered an compliment.

Lebron is better than bird

Kek

>generational player
>never the best in the league (duncan, kobe and now curry all better)

He's an overrated Dominique Wilkins

>Played way more seasons healthy

Broken back 2 torn Achilles bird in 88 still shits on him lelbron

Implying early bird wasn't as explosive as kekbron

Stay young youngfag

you have to criminally undervalue defense to think hakeem won without a team

but i would agree that team is the strongest example of one player having the single largest positive contribution to a chip winning team.

The low post game is a dying art unfortunately. Almost no players work on it anymore.

Barkley, Malone, McHale, all of these guys could kill you on the post if you didn't double them.

You notice very few teams double a player anymore on the low post because they don't fear it. They won't get a high quality shot out of it, and the open three is much more fearsome.

But Hakeem did win with out a team name one all star on the rockets for his firdt ship name one person who was nba 1st team nba 2nd name one person on that team who had any notable achievements that year you can't. Hakeem is still the only person to win a chip with no hofers and no all stars o. His squad. His team was literally throw it down to the dream and wait for the double

>Can anyone tell me why people actually believe this fat sack of garbage is better than Larry bird

Did Larry Bird play and guard the 5?

>guard the 5?
Can we stop this meme, he's calling for dumb switches every time a bigger player even appears near him

youtube.com/watch?v=1Z0Eblu1Aaw

Lebron can not guard real 5s, only some meme undersized small ball 5s

So your answer is "no" Larry Bird did not play or guard the 5. Thanks for clearing it up.

>calls out cherrypicking
>proceeds to cherry pick

He couldn't guard centers, but that's irrelevant to the comparison since Lebron can't do it either

Implying those are real centres kek

Lmk when kekbron can come close to this performance
youtu.be/89IQcTPHkRs

Also it's worth noting that Lebron is playing in the weakest big man era ever. The most dangerous center he has faced in the play offs was Dwight Howard and he was scoring at will against the Cavs.

And Dwight is not even half of an offensive threat that the 80s bigs were

But he can play the 5

>Gets swept in 6 by Dwight no post moves H oward

Clyde wasn't there for the first one

Basketball fail

In todays game Bird would guard the five and in the 80s Bron would get abused by 5s

different era's especially when considering the smaller line-ups of today.

>Basketball fail
Nope.

Kenny Smith as a sidekick > Kyrie as a sidekick.

Simple fact. Kyrie isn't effective in his role.

99% of people here never watched Bird play, even on youtube and they believe everything they read on ESPN. I remember when Bron just came to the NBA, ESPN was lobbying for him to be in all nba defensive team even though he was shit defensively (he improved couple of years later) just to improve NBA ratings by proclaiming a new Jordan. There was some thing on NBA.com where you could ask Reggie Miller shit over e-mail and I asked him about why he said Lebron should be in first defensive team over the likes of Battier and he answered something like "it's simply Lebron".

But my biggest problem with him is that he is the least clutch player that is in GOAT discussion ever and his flopping is annoying to say the least.

>there have been 2 different teams built around him with pay cutting superstars
>2-4

Your argument is somewhat valid. But I would still pick bird (6'9) since he has the ability to shoot a 3 while there being a hand in his face and there being 3 seconds left in a final championship game. Lebron (6'8) can barely make a 3 pointer to save his team from getting blown out in 1st and 2nd game.

>Kenny > Kyrie

Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

Bird played with Hall of Famers against Hall of Famers, Lebron played with 1 Hall of Famer against literal garbage and then with All Stars against literal garbage

Use.your head. Kyrie is obviously a lot worse as a nimber 2 guy than Kenny is.

Kyrie as the leader of his team and the number one option is not contest. Kyrie is the better player in those circumstances.

But Kyrie as LeBron's teammate compared to Kenny as Hakeem's teammate? Kyrie is shit-tier. That lazy post entry pass last night was all the evidence I need.

So Kenny with lelbron they win 9 straight for da land ?

Reminder that Bird would win one for da land simply because he would hate Draymond Green enough to average 60 ppg

Bird would get in his head so much he'd probably have gotten ejected by game 2

This.

>Hey Lebron, I learned that move in college.
>Hey Lebron, did you leave your talents at South Beach?
>Hey Lebron, D-Wade could've saved you on that last one
>Hey Lebron, did you skip practice to re-read Space Jam 2?

etc etc etc

robert horry is legendary in the playoffs and they got crazy good minutes out of cassell off the bench. i really think those two propelled a contending team into chip winners. they got all star tier minutes out of those two in the playoffs.

i'm not arguing against hakeem being the best example keep in mind i just think you're undervaluing an aspect of their team. they played great team defense and had a couple seriously undervalue players AND the best player in hakeem.

lebron is way better than bird but bird accomplished more

i don't disagree necessarily but you do have to consider the players bird got to play with his whole career. going purely by individual stats i'd take bird as well.