GOAT

>GOAT
>never won a WC

If you can't carry out your team to win a WC like Zidane, Pelé or Maradona did, you are just not the goat

>carry your team to a WC
>Zidane

que?

well at least he's not s filthy south american spic.
oh wait...

>he rates zidane

tell me who scored against Peru in 1970 to lead Brazil past the quarterfinals?
Pele? no
it was Rivellino, Tostao, and Jairzinho

tell me who scored against Uruguay to get Brazil past the semi-finals?
was it Pele?
no, it was Rivelinho, Clodoaldo, and Jairzinho

tell me who scored against Italy to get Brazil the world cup?
was it Pele? take away his goal and Brazil still scores 3 more to take the cup easily


Tell me who scored to get France past Paraguay in Round of 16?
was it Zidane?
no he did fuck all, Blanc scored the golden goal in minute 116.

Tell me who scored to get France past the quarterfinals against Italy?
was it Zidane?
Hell no, in fact, he did nothing all game and had to win a penalty shootout

Tell me who scored to get France past Croatia in the semi-finals?
Was it Zidane?
no, again it was everyone except Zidane,
Thuram scored twice bailing out france as Croatia took the lead first

but of course, he scores 2 headers off corner kicks and now he "led France to the world cup trophy"
kek
fucking dirty casuals
these two 'goats" got free rides to the trophy thanks to their teammates meanwhile if Messi doesn't score those minute 90 goals against pathetic teams like Algeria then his team doesn't even leave the group stage.

The exception is Maradona
yes he did 90% of the work in 86, but again he did not score the winning world cup goal.
If Valdano had missed, what would've happened?
Maradona would've choked 86 and 90.
But he's a hero because Valdano scored?

It's a shame Higuain missed then. Fucking peasants.

>Zidane carried France
"no" it was a pretty stacked team.
Neither did Pele, the only players that I remember carrying their NT were Maradona and Platini, and even Maradona needed help in the final.

>Pelé
>Zidane
>Maradone

>never got 5 ballon d'ors

Ballon d'or is most irrelevant shit ever.World best player is Messi? Will he stop counter attack in 90 minute of World cup final? No its gonna be defender.
Will he save a penalty in 117 min of Wc final? No its gonna be goalkeeper.
I fucking hate ballon,made football a statistic game like all murican sports.

>Messi is not the GOAT because he has to put up with this shit

What are you talking about? the Ballon d'Or is a trophy awarded to the most decisive player every season. Messi has won 5 because he is the main reason Barça won so much in the last 10 years.
Messi will obviously not stop a counter attack or a penalty in the 90th minute, but just because it's not his job. If it were his job he probably would do so 8 out of 10 times. Luckily enough, his job is to create goal attempts and actually scoring them too.
On an individual basis, which is what the Ballon d'Or awards, Messi is the most important player in the world and maybe in history right now, just watch a Barça match and see for yourself.

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>Pele carried Brazil

Those Brazil squads were fucking stacked breh

>implying busquits isn't barca's mvp

>Barcelona 29 November 1899 - 2001
>100 years
>15 league titles, 1 Champions league

>Barcelona after Messi signed on a paper napkin
>2001-2016
>23 total league titles, 5 Champions Leagues, 42 other trophies, worldwide respect

fucking higuain man

now im mad
fuck higuain, and fuck you for posting this

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I really like this meme of bringing team accomplishments into discussion about player's ability.

That thing haunted me for the rest of the game

Maradona and Pele never won European Cups though

>only the ones who scored contributed to the team
Amerifats, everyone.

>ballon d'ors
who gives a fuck honestly

>If you can't carry out your team to win a WC like Zidane, Pelé or Maradona did, you are just not the goat

You forgot Totti. The goatest of GOATs.

>the Ballon d'Or is a trophy awarded to the most decisive player every season.
How naïve. It's just marketing, my spanish friend.

Pele and Zidane played on stacked to the fucking tits teams


But either way Messi is clearly better than all of them

KEK

Totti was great, but in that team you had the best defence ever seen in a World Cup.
Just 2 goals in all the tournament

1 own goal
1 penalty (not even fully over the line)

All of this like holy shit