ITT: Knowing who you are, but not what you want. What can i do to overcome this anxiety Sup Forums? i'm becoming an adult, i know who i am, but i don't what to do i really want. Everyone i know thinks i'm a genius and that has made me think i have to accomplish big fucking things. How do i overcome the anxiety of expecting big things of yourself and not feeling capable to live up to these expectations?
pic related, that was me at 14
stop thinking like a fucking teenager and grow up.
invest in a spine. Shit's useful
on second thought, get your eyes checked too.
i don't know how to do that
yeah, i'm used to be fucking bent all the time, i don't know how to walk with my back straight
what do you want to do with your life OP?
Genius never goes unrecognised.
If you really were a genius these questions would not arise.
the chances of you actually being a genius, rather than just you believing you are a genius, are practically NIL
reading comprehension failure user.
Accomplish a goal, even if it's something small. Don't pay much attention to the praise, plenty of people are smart and good at memorizing facts but have no drive to turn their mind to something useful. Saying you got through school with decent grades is only slightly more impressive than saying you've learned not to shit on the floor.
Do something, anything, and do it well. Even if it's landscaping or growing bonsai trees. Accomplishments are all that matter.
Case in point--there are guys in my city who have amassed a small fortune, including multiple rental properties, while barely being able to use a computer or read anything more complicated than a newspaper article.
And then there are droves of people with expensive graduate degrees in their mid thirties who are serving coffee for twelve bucks an hour. I've met some who think that if they just get that one new degree, their career will really take off.
I want to call you a fag, but I think this is kind of an epidemic among those of us raised by the self esteem generation.
>school kissed my ass for high test scores
>then ignored me because I was quiet and didn't wreck shit or scratch my wrists
idk
yesterday i fucking wrecked a restaurant in a riot, but i felt so empty when i went home. i thought i was made for violence and war for a time, because my dad trained to be a fucking warrior
>inb4 bat-shit crazy father
i thought for a time to do something like starting a revolution in my shitty country or killing a politician. but now i know i don't really want that. i want a better world, but i don't like violence, though i don't hesitate to use it.
the thing is don't feel capable of really starting a revolution, that's just silly, even if my country is really shitty and we're on a season of several riots.
the thing is, the only thing i really feel like wanting to do is to be on a girls thighs on a summer day. peace, that's the thing i want.
NIL? i don't think i'm a genius, i've just been told by fucking everyone i know that i'm wasting my inteligence on stupid shit, like feeling emotional over shit.
user, I'm not OP but I'm 18 and I'm starting to think in the way you're talking about. I want to go to college and get a degree in physics and math but I actually want to know it and master it. I want to self-study any and all science and truly become a scientist, this may sound crazy but I like the idea of a polymath or just in general someone that masters multiple fields having not even gotten an" education". I totally know where you're coming from though and I wished more people would realize how important it is to really learn about what they are doing
Judging from this I can tell you're probably not a genius but you're probably more intelligent/knowledgeable than the rest of your country since it sounds like your country is a shithole. I don't have any experience with this but I would recommend studying certain topics that interest you and really flex your intelligence by putting it to use.
>polymath
So how do you plan to pay for the 30 years you'll spend studying before publishing your first paper, outdated by 20 years?
Well, look into what you want to accomplish. I'm no science major but from what I understand, academic science is a really rough place right now.
>need big money to do serious research
>need to be laser focused on whatever topic is hot in order to get big money
>publish or perish
>people who are mediocre or cannot into the politics spend their careers as lab gophers for low pay relative to their training
Best advice I ever got (and took years too long to follow) was to find mentors who are doing what you want to do, and envision your path to that success, rather than looking for the degree that will clear the path for you.
dont listen to other people
i write a lot, i'm studying to be a journalist, but i also want to do screenplays for TV. i've also got some poetry published on La Sebastiana.
i'm afraid my life will go to hell. i've always been scared to be in a shitty office working my ass off just to get home and be tired. what if i can't accomplish anything? what if i'm really no good? what if i'm a living lie?
I won't be spending 30 years to study... I'm not that stupid jeez. Obviously there has to be a limit on what one can study and the amount of time but my point is that I in general want to be a really good physical scientist with maybe a mix of engineering in there.
MDQ, OP ?
Yeah I'm not too worried about money man... If I were in it for the money I'd become a doctor or some shit. The main thing I like about physics is cosmology which is actually more astrophysics... in short I want to study the origin of the universe and the physics of existence itself. Also I get that publishing papers is a huge deal, I've done a lot of research
It comes down to having enough balls and self awareness to realize where you fit in and settle into yourself. It's a difficult decision to say - I'm going to be a plumber when all you see is praise for athletes, silicon valley nerds or other sexy professional jobs. But being able to make this decision at an early enough age to not waste your youth (19-25) can be a serious game changer for yourself.
You're right about this generation, the self-esteem generation being so delusional about their actual self-worth. Yes they're important, but only to the people in their small networks and community. Social media, mtg, youtube and all the rest has inflated the ego of so many of us to the point we are just constantly holding out to become 'something'.
There's something to be said about the far-east tradition, or rather the old world tradition during the gold and silver ages when it was your duty to learn the craft of your father and it would be a dishonour to your family to aspire to anything below or above that social class work.
Well if everyone around you praises you in that you're intelligent then know that you're doing better than they are. Most people will have a rough life, just get through it and do what you want to do. I wouldn't mind leaving an office late and constantly being tired if I knew if it were all to research physics... if you can't see yourself bearing that with journalism then find something new.
si te refieres a Mar del Plata, no, esta foto me la sacaron en Viña del Mar, Chile. yo soy de Valparaíso
// if you're refering to Mar del Plata, no, this picture was taken in Viña del Mar, Chile. i'm from Valparaíso
if Mar del Plata's not what MDQ means, idk then
Any career in the arts is a bit like buying a lotto ticket, especially if you go into debt for a degree.
I went to art school, and aside from myself, I only knew of a few people in my classes who did not have upper class parents who would provide them with a soft place to fall (either paying for a second degree or lining up employment for them if they couldn't make their own way).
There's really no good advice. You put your all into it and either attain enough success to sustain yourself or burn out and do something else. I've done alright for myself working in the movies, but I strongly discourage people from taking up my profession.
I don't care what you do but CAPITALIZE YOUR FUCKING Is. I'm dying over here just seeing your post!
you need to end yourself
Parecía Mar del Plata, user. Saludos.-
>physical scientist
So you'll spend about 8 years getting the minimum requirement (PhD) to be listened to in a very specific field. Then if you want any kind of understanding of what the dudes in your lab do, you'll spend 2 more years. Congrats, you now have a basic knowledge of what was the flavor of the week of your field 5 years ago.
Then you'll need about 5 years study/professional experience doing some engineering to get a little understanding of the life of an industrial project.
That's 15 years, and you're overly specialised in a field, with outdated knowledge.
Holy shit I know someone exactly like this. He's always being so outward about how "adult" like he is, looking at watches, italian shoes, ties, etc. and shit like that buy yet he's a high schooler. What's wrong with that? It's the fact of the matter that he doesn't realize we're in high school and in no way near that level of "professionalism" yet he acts like he is. He basically just makes everything like that a big deal and he acts like he is great at everything he does or ever will do.
Yeah I get it, it's a lot of fucking work. Someone has to do it though to continue research and development, no? It also depends on how quickly I move through it.... Also I get that it's a very specialized field... good thing I know which field I'm going into.
didn't know, my fault
I like journalism. I'll think about what you've said. Thank you.
I'm really in fucking debt. I think I'll have to venture myself forth, even if I fear failure. Thank you.
>good thing I know which field I'm going into.
>polymath
make up your mind faggot.
Not him but where the fuck do new scientists and industrial researchers come from? Is it sort of a matter of luck and nepotism?
Well I think it's commendable to reach for your ambitions. I know a guy whose got all the millenial memes on lockdown... sounds like a walking stereotype... but he's also frugal and worked his ass off to start a business selling handmade musical instruments. He took a real passion and turned it into a viable living.
To some degree it's just part of growing up and trying on new personas. He's no different from the kids who claim to be "real punks" while making fun of the poseurs. I say cut 'em some slack.
Good luck. Harlan Ellison once said something like "trying to be a screenwriter is sort of like climbing a mountain of shit for years to pick a single beautiful flower--and by the time you reach the flower, you've lost your sense of smell".
Holy shit you're not understanding me. In physics I'm going into 1 or 2 fields but in terms of other subject areas I will learn them more generally. Like think of Da vinci, everyone knows him for his works with inventions and art but he was also a writer, a mathematician, science, music, etc. If you think it's impossible then you're wrong.
Bro you sound like you wanted to go into science and math but weren't smart enough so you're hating on that kid
>where the fuck do industrial researchers come from
Engineers that know science happens and spend some time listening to sciency guys explaining what they're pretty sure of, since they've been testing this hypothesis for a decade.
It worked in Enlightenment because science was slow and small. Now you'll have to do like the rest of us and be specialised in a tiny field to be up to date and get any funding.
So you're saying that I am in the end going to be a lazy pos and only get into one field? I get that it worked in the enlightenment era but there is so much time in the world, if I really want to study extra subjects I can...
You seem to assume everyone is lazy or dumb.
I suggest you visit a lab and talk to some PhD student that seems a little bit smart, and find out if he isn't working hard, and how wide his knowledge of his field is.
No I'm not assuming anyone is lazy or dumb I'm just saying if I wanted to pursue other studies I will.
The simple way to put it is that when people first started doing real science, you could do bleeding edge science in an attic with equipment sourced from whatever their equivalent of a hardware store was. They were just beginning to look at the surface characteristics of anatomy and physical phenomena like electricity.
Bleeding edge science today is typically done with millions (or billions) of dollars worth of machinery and large teams of researchers. It's an undertaking that requires a well funded institution like a university or a corporation. Maybe there are exceptions, I don't know.
As for writing and making music, go right on ahead, it's a better use of your time than binge watching GoT or browsing dank memes.
I'm saying you won't have time for much more than a small hobby and/or social life.
Not talking about music I just want to self-study fields like chemistry and shit just for the sake of knowledge. I get that it requires well funded institutions, that's why I hope to land a good job
That's complete bullshit, me and you both know it.