I've been pretending for a long time now that I'm a progressive. Why you might ask? Well all of my friends are, and unless I want to off myself socially I must keep up apperences. I'm currrently talking to a girl and she likes me but I have not returned those feelings because I'm not willing to put up with the progressive/feminist BS. I've hinted that I don't agree to a few to my "friends", and I get very negative responses. I've been doing damage control over simply saying that I don't think Trump is Hitler.
How do I be me without being alienated?
Jack Torres
I was caught in the same situation as you for the past month or so. But I've slowly been shifting away from them and settling into a new group of friends.
Caleb Barnes
Well, I've tried shifting to new friends too with no luck. I live in California and it just seems to be a sea of progressives from where I sit.
Caleb Thomas
How long have you guys been friends? If its been a long time then I'm pretty sure you could come out of the RightWing closet and not be too bad off.If politics doesnt come up often then you should be fine.
Owen Cruz
It sure is hard to start a thread that isn't a loli, trap, YLYL, porn, or general cancer thread these days...
Jackson Adams
3 years or so, after high school I got a job and made lots of new friends who I get along with until they spout their progressive ideals.
Angel Bailey
Yeah man I think it'd be fine if you just came out as long as you arent too radical and start spewing about the jewish lies. Plus once the election season is over politics won't be one everyones mind as much.
David Cooper
You do this by not caring about being alienated, if they are too weak minded to tolerate different opinions then you are better off being alienated from them.
James Russell
Think your right. Thing is though Im not all that right wing. It's really just them being stuck on their political beliefs and hating anyone who is against them. Just hope I find people IRL who don't drink out of the Right wing or Left wing punch bowls.
Eli Gomez
Good Luck with that bro. NiggerAnon here and had to deal with all my nigger friends drinking from the LeftWing punch bowl.
Grayson Flores
I think threads need pics regardless of subject matter for threads to stay alive, do they not?
Connor Harris
true but pretty pictures shouldn't be the heart of a thread.
Chase Morris
Just get a conservative group of friends. All mine are conservative for the most part.
Dylan Ortiz
Would have the same problem, they would say something about God and I'd feel like I'd be alienated for not believing exactly what they do.
Grayson Mitchell
Well, as long as the topic on your thread is compelling and thought-provoking to people, they would hopefully attract plenty of them willing to interact with you, and then, it wouldn't be much of a problem, now would it?
Jacob Campbell
I agree. Just dislike seeing the same 2 threads everyday. Not saying my thread is better.
Nathan Young
You're easily alienated, it seems. Do you aim and intend to have a bright and skilled groups of contacts, acquaintances and confidants that is balanced and truly involved among many walks of life, and the more visible, accomplished and impactful they are in society, aside from those you may find promising, the better your social and professional lives will become?
Noah Wilson
Look at the stamps there, OP...do you see what I see...?
Jordan Howard
*group not groups
James Sanchez
Well OP, I have a very similar story to yours, but mine ended pretty bad. It goes like this..
>Be me >Disagree with something among the group and of it's members >Plzagreewithme.avi >"What? No, user. He's not like that at all..." >"You know what...You're like that." >everyone ends up going behind my back >mfw I lost group of friends over greed >mfw I can't find anymore friends cause nobody likes me
If I were you, I would try to find a new group. Life is all about trying new things out and seeing how far you can reach. For you the stars, but for me is just the sky. Good luck, user.
Owen Kelly
Not really.
Luke King
Probably nothing at all.
Ethan Turner
Yeah, I'm not that social and I've been attempting to build bridges. It's a lot harder than I'd like it to be, slow process too.
Hunter Jones
I would really just like people who don't explode when they hear you say something that isn't their dogma.
Cameron Miller
So would I. Do you consider yourself to be more introverted in nature, but you try day by day to overcome that as you earn a living?
Matthew Thompson
Same here user. Sadly, I'm 18 now and I don't have much to work with either. Since you live in a different place than I do it only means you must have different circumstances. If you go to college, maybe things will work out there, join a club or something. I wish you the best man.
Jack Long
I'm introverted, and do to my job I'm forced to be more social.
Brody James
That may be the bias that really defines you. I wish I had the secret to get over what I, generally speaking, seem to have in common with you, whether it's due to cultural, political or just personal issues. Are there moments when you ever seem to relish or otherwise loathe this continuing life challenge?
Elijah Wilson
Would love to go to college but I have no money. Grants are imposible to get because I'm white, parents make just enough to count as too much for most grants, and I'm not all that motivated.
Grayson Robinson
When you were growing up, as parents, siblings and others encouraged you to participate and make friends and attending school, when did you first come to realize that?
David Fisher
For the most part I like the change, though certain aspects of being social make me wish for solitude.
Jack Martinez
There are secular conservatives you can befriend. And who cares if they believe in God if you agree on other stuff? I don't agree with my friends on everything.
Brandon Reed
I've always tried to keep to myself. About the time I turned 15 I realized that I wasn't as social as everyone else, even when I was in a social setting I'd be the last person to talk.
Ian Martinez
If only you had your very own "Fortress of Solitude," you may wonder... Despite your difficulties to relate to rather typecast personalities acted through the people you encounter in your life, what gives you hope of meeting someone who is almost unbelievably ideal to what you crave in a contact, acquaintance or friend? What allows you to persevere?
Nolan Cox
I don't take issue with their beliefs, It's how they translate to conversation. Also the conservative population here in California is small.
Tyler Long
1. Be yourself regardless of your "friends" opinions.
2. You're a gigantic gapin pussy for not being yourself in the first place.
Tyler Richardson
You must live in or near one of the major cities. You ever consider migrating elsewhere for the sake of encountering a few more like minds? Are you a California native? Do you get your ideological leanings from your parents or are they intrinsically sourced?
Levi Williams
I don't know what keeps me going. I feel myself slowing down. I'm not suicidal, but I feel like I must submit to one form of thought in order to continue.
Christopher Davis
Bumping for interest
Dylan Hall
Live in Anaheim near Disney Land, I wouldn't move because life is "stable" here. Parents a conservative, and I would say I've developed my own understanding of the world around me.
Jason Garcia
Being yourself isn't always wise. If I was gay and walked into the middle east and declared so I'd be pretty fucked.
Noah Bennett
You feel the need to recharge more often lately than you did 5-10 years ago after a day of work or just out and about but with a purpose?
Juan Roberts
get new friends who have half a brain.
Gabriel Reed
Well you aready admitted that your friends arent really your friends. Why please a bunch of shitty people that you dont really like. Being alone isnt a bad thing
Hudson Hall
Don't know when the last time I recharged was. When I was a kid (1-12) I was full of energy and now everything seems to appose me. I'm not looking to enforce my will on others just give them another perspective.
Tyler Mitchell
What if those people, for some reason, seem to have some influence over whether you get to have a job or not, or if you deserve to enjoy life or not? Especially when some of those people are intractably adversarial?
Juan Bennett
"appose"=appease+oppose?
Charles Gray
Being alone wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to worry about bills. I'd quit my job and live in a bubble. A job requires social interaction in most cases.
Evan Myers
You don't want friends, you want an echo-chamber.
Asher Gomez
Move to Alabama
Adrian Ortiz
Well, spelling and grammar are not my strongest point. I'd like to think context mean alot more than anything.
Evan Collins
Why are you making up words you progressive slut
Carson Adams
I want an echo chamber and i'd stick my friends in it and we'd all make sounds
Michael Lee
No, I want people who do not explode when someone disagrees.
Jason Morgan
I'm not questioning your work ethic and your productive approach to life especially with society and the economy the way it is, but do you feel the need to take a vacation in order to boost your spirits which may be dampened from what I can tell, or are you so dedicated to your work that you feel you must without doubt keep pace with your peers if only for appearance's sake if not a deep-down sense of duty?
Easton Cooper
just don't talk about politics anymore, when people ask your opinion, just say you don't keep up with it anymore. if pressed just act disillusioned with politics as a whole.
talking politics isn't fun for anyone, why spend time doing that with friends anyway.
Joseph Rogers
I've been off work for a month now (medical leave). Working keeps me busy and I keep up the facade in order to keep in good standing with my peers.
Tyler Peterson
Progressivism is as stupid as any other ideology. Putting your faith into technology and science is stupid. Example: technology and automation will soon streamline many industries and make human workers obsolete. Is that really a good thing? What's more important? Strong revenues for corporations? Or employment for humans? In my mind, employment is the greater good for sure. Jobs are more important than progress and streamlining. So just because a robot can do it better, doesn't mean it should. This is the fundamental flaw in progressivism. They don't stop to think if they should, they just automatically assume that technological progress is always good, even though technology and science are neutral and can be good or bad depending on how they are used.
Brayden Wilson
I was out with some of my friends a few weeks ago and politics at least this close to the election is a hot topic, and if you don't give an answer you look like you have something to hide.
Mason Williams
Bumping for interest
Sebastian Morris
Don't bother lying to keep friends. Just be honest and either your friends won't care enough or you'll make new friends who don't. If they stop talking to you over differing political ideas then fuck them
Dylan Cooper
Ahh fuck your pity pity bullshit. I went to school as a white male who only played an Alto Sax and did sound board and backstage work for the drama department. I got a full scholarship by just applying myself. I did get a 31 in science and 28 in math on the ACT's though. My reading and writing scores are what brought me down there.
Just fucking apply yourself. I drove 110 miles a day to go to school and then work and got my A.S. in a year. Then I got a full time job, saved my money and went back to school five years later full time without working more than 16 hours a month. Knocked out a computer support specialist degree in three terms and now make $50k just teaching retards at work how to draw a diagram in Visio and doing light repair and network work.
Don't be a dumbass. Just apply yourself. Also don't be stupid and get a degree just because you feel you need to. If you can't find something go pick up a job in an applied field, do welding, which can net you a job while you're training and get you making $45k a year in some places.
I have no pity for shits like you, just fucking do something with your life and quit whining. Otherwise off yourself because you're waste of space like the fucking burger flippers that think they need to be paid a living wage for a part-time job.
Nathan Brooks
Drop em like hot rocks.
Seriously. I keep up appearances over my viewpoints on sexuality only because it's a big thing and I'm still young. But I'm not a fucking feminist and nobody should be. If you disagree then just leave, don't deal with their shit. Making new friends can be hard depending on who you are, but I do suggest getting some new ones instead of these so-called "friends" that only like you because you pretend to like them.
Angel Brooks
I can't turn back time and work towards a scholarship. I'm trying right now to save enough money but I have bills and most recently a large medical bill from injuring myself at work, and workers comp. was denied.
Hudson Bell
Op here.
I'm glad to hear from so many other anons on this subject. I really doubt that any one post will bring me clearity, but I'm happy I could have a civil conversation with others. I've developed some new ideas that I want to try out and I guess that if they fail I'll take it as an opportunity to start a new.
Luis Martinez
Then work through it. Not say it's not possible. Take a year off from school and work, save up money, then apply for scholarships and grants next year. Most colleges these days have these massive one application deals where you apply once, an awards committee hands out the scholarships, you send a thank you letter to the foundation and then go on your merry way. Also unless you have a felony or such Pell grants are very easy to get. Make that's a free $5k+ a year with no interest until six months after you leave school.
Angel Sanchez
Hey man just be yourself, if you're having to hide who you are you're doing yourself more harm than good. Trust me you can always make new friends, and if they hate you just for your ideology differences then they weren't really good friends in the first place.
Landon Bennett
What do you feel about the subject matter of this thread ? Maybe things are just too tense and the sarcasm may be misplaced here?
Joseph Wood
That thread seems to be right up my alley. Although I don't think I'm the one who needs a safe space. The friends I talk about are the ones looking to shut out any foreign ideas.