"The big difference between America and Europe is that when an American sees a guy riding around in a limousine...

"The big difference between America and Europe is that when an American sees a guy riding around in a limousine, he thinks 'Wow, if I work really hard, I could be in that limousine someday!', whereas when a European sees a guy riding around in a limousine, he thinks 'Dammit, I'm gonna get that bastard!'

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Yeah it shows Americans are delusional as fuck and still think the American Dream is a thing. Europeans are at least aware that they're being in a worse position than the guy in the limousine.

Here's your chauffeurs cap. Have fun driving him around.

Can't all be king.

>WE IZ GUNNA BE DRIVING IN LIMOZEENS N SHIET NIGGA

No, it shows that the pretentious Irish prick who first said that quote has no clue about America.

Except that in america there are people that do start from the bottom and work their way up. Ofcourse not everyone will succed but it worth it to try. If everyone thought like you there would be no entrepenuers and hardworking people that eventually become a success.

86% of millionaires are first generation desu.

Your missing the point.

The point is, somebodies got to drive that limousine. And there are a lot more people driving limousines than there are with names on the registration.

In fact, you might even say, that the only way for that guy to be sitting in the back of that limo is for somebody else to be sitting up front, driving it.

I'm a first generation hundredaire

Instead of asking yourself, "Does that guy deserve to be sitting in the back of the limo?" You might instead ask yourself, "Does the guy driving the limo want to be there?"

This CA fucker knows more about America than most of the supposed "Americans" posting ITT. Its a shame how badly Sup Forums has been infested with r*ddit subhuman filth...

Is U2 the worst band of all time?

You are a literal subhuman. Its time for you to return to Africa, you filth.

You might further ask yourself, "If me being in the back of the limo means somebody is stuck driving it who doesn't really want to be there, then does anybody really need a limo?"

in america, everyone thinks they are going to become a millionaire one day

How many of them come from rich families or went to top universities?
It's not worth it, especially not in America where you're completely ruined if you take a credit and your business fails.

A typical primate response.

You might further ask yourself, "what the fuck were my defective-gened parents thinking when they decided to have a child?"

Back in your cage, mongrel

Don't tempt me, gene-trash.
Lest I have your trailor park sectioned off.

For example, most of our presidents weren't born in a mansion. Crap, Obama was born to a white trash single mom from Kansas.

your illiterate

In america, you can't say, "I want slaves."

So the acceptable substitute is to say, "I want services."

Fight me you little bitch

*you're

Slavery implies nobody is getting paid for their services and they're forced to work against their will.

>yuropoors think riding in a limousine is an impossible dream

And if they don't pay their rent, what then? You move them off their own land and lay claim to their possessions.

But only after stripping the land of all its resources and taking the best for yourselves.

In Europe, traditionally there was the landed gentry which you had to be born into. You could not become a king if you were born a peasant, try though you might. Socialism originated as a notion of destroying the nobility and ensuring equality of outcome.

But since the US never had hereditary gentry, Americans didn't find socialism appealing; it was just seen as a way for leeches to steal from the hard labor of others.

Gee, it's almost like aspiring to be better and climb higher made America what it is today.

If payment is only a deferment of the threat of force, then money is worthless. You are not measuring the value of someones services, you are merely assigning them an allotment of resources. You are still the ultimate arbiter on how those resources are used and divided.

a 3rd world shithole?

If your household income is less than $65,000 (or some number near that), ivy leagues and other top universities will cover pretty much the entire cost for you. If you get scholarships on top of that, you're looking at getting the best education in the world for free. If you're paying thousands to go to some state school you need to rethink things.

People in capitalist countries see their servitude as a privilege.

put the crackpipe down.
we are here to help.

Except that socialism isn't widespread in the US because the people don't want it but because the big companies that highly profit from your almost non-regulated capitalism run the government. Socialism isn't about lazy people stealing from the rich, it's about crazy rich companies not being allowed to fuck over the entire population.

>People in capitalist countries see their servitude as a privilege.

Capitalism condemns the majority of the populace into a position of servitude. Somehow we convince ourselves that only the most noble and morally superior people become masters, while our servitude is a sign of our own moral inferiority.

Why start "from the bottom" when everyone can be at the middle and robots do the work lol.

Is this some kind of thinly veiled attempt at getting a talk about socialism going?

>US
>almost non-regulated capitalism
I wish that were true

Because there was such freedom under Soviet communism where the party constituted a feudal ruling class?

We build mansions for our masters while condemning ourselves to sharing apartments. We build them jet aircraft while driving sub-compacts. We work holidays so they can have their summers off.

Assuming there are only ever two choices.

It is compared to the rest of the world. Look at the absurd amount of money that universities or pharmaceutical companies charge. They can't do that in Europe because the government s won't let them.

Name a non-shitty communist country.

When some taiwanese worker goes home after a 50 hour work week getting paid less than half of minimum wage assembling salad shooters, how do you think that makes him feel?

When his livelyhood depends entirely on the careless whim of an american who makes more in a day than he makes in a week, do you think he goes home and dreams about making it big in America?

Or does he smile a little at the thought of a plane smashing into the statue of liberty? Does he look forward to a day when he won't be forced to make worthless crap for a person halfway around the world to feed his family?

>If its not 1, it must be 0
>What if its not 1 or 0?
>name a single 0 that is not a 0

>Look at the absurd amount of money that universities or pharmaceutical companies charge
And all thanks to government overregulation that jacks up the price of everything.

I think I hear the kuku bird calling..

What? That doesn't even make sense. Why would the government makes prices higher than the company that sells those things originally intended?

>universities
Because the government uses its own money to give a teen tens of thousands in an unsecured loan. No company would do that with their own money.
>pharmaceutical companies
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>parents came from poor caribbean shithole
>saved up their money to immigrate to America
>became legal citizens and now make a combined $180k a year
>have to listen to europoors talk shit about a country they have no clue about

You think the U.S and most capitalist countries have no regulation? Have you heard about subsidies?! No? They are everywhere. The U.S. government protects the oil industry it is not fucking unregulated. Here in Guatemala they protect the chicken industry.
Socialism is cancer aswell as mercantilism. The government should fuck off and let the market flow but idiots like you vote for the people that prevent that.

So let me get this straight.

You are saying the ability of a consumer to manipulate the price of a drug is him exercising his right not to buy it?

Externalities

The time where something vaguely like that (Runaway Capitalism) occurred is called the Gilded Age, and it was resolved in the Progressive movement of the early 20th century.

Socialism didn't appeal to most Americans for a variety of reasons, its more than just
>Americans are stupid
and
>Americans can't see they're being cheated

Capitalism condemns nothing but the lazy to poverty and the diligent to wealth

There are flaws, as everything does have, of course

But your actions will shape your outcomes, and that's fair.

He, the worker, will think of how wonderful his bed will feel

His livelyhood depends on his employers, which is a factory run by Taiwanese, and who assemble American goods
If they Americans won't buy, someone else will

And he'd most likely be jumping for joy at the thought of living in America, where he could earn so much more and live so much better
Unless, of course, America has somehow slighted him in some way, in which case he obviously wouldn't be

From your rhetoric I can see you've never actually worked strenuously in your life

how do you know that?

And I'm sure we all enjoyed your parents tacos before the health inspector shut them down.

For example, college tuition. Once upon a time, they had to compete in a free market and offer affordable prices if they wanted to get students enrolling. Now since the gumbint got the idea that everyone must go to college and become neurosurgeons because we don't need to manufacture anything anymore and that should all be done by Xiang, they began subsidizing universities so that they no longer had to compete in a free market setting, they could charge whatever ripoff tuitions they felt like because the government would prop them up regardless.

>tacos
>caribbean

Statistics say otherwise, America is among the Western countries with the worst social mobility.

Look at this fag still buying into propaganda.

>we
Speak for yourself. You came here when?

But that is not possible now though. Maybe in the future.

>The time where something vaguely like that (Runaway Capitalism) occurred is called the Gilded Age, and it was resolved in the Progressive movement of the early 20th century

But even then, most people didn't want socialism, they just wanted better wages and pensions and working conditions. Communists later denounced the organized labor movement as "a wage bargaining lobby, not a vehicle of revolution".

You sound like a real loser. Things not working out for you? You can do it!

I think he'd be more interested in figuring out how many salad shooters he could shove up your ass before pissing on your grave.

>being forced to pay for education

Fucking revolting. Nothing permits a person more to rise on the social ladder than access to education.

They do but not nearly as much as European countries. Our economy is capitalistic but with more regulations that protect our consumers. The Nordic countries have almost pure socialism and they're without a doubt the best working countries in the world, they barely have any problems socially and economically. Socialism is the best system in the world and the only reason it didn't work in South America is because you are lazy pieces of shit and any system would fail in your hands.

>people didn't want socialism, they wanted socialist policies
Lad

>if i work hard enough and study stem i will be wealthy
You guys are precious

Call me crazy
>forcing people to work for free

This is really stretching any defition and nuance of the term 'socialism' there,buddy.

Wait I was wrong. It's actually the worst.

muh temporarily embarrassed millionaires

Socialism is public ownership of the means of production. Most people didn't want that aside from a few times like the Populists in the 1890s, but they quickly became irrelevant.

You are the gullible fag here. Maybe in Germany, an european country that has always been rich and now gets their cuck sucked by the european union can have money to spare for your social programs but socialism is a stupid idiology that has affected many. I have talked to venezuelans that fled and hate socialism more than anyone else.
Tell me when has a poor country become better under socialism?

America's "Golden Age" occurred during the 50's and 60's, in the post war boom, after implementing the progressive policies of the Democratic leadership that won World War 2. Taxes during that period were the highest they have ever been in US history.

The period you are referring to is known as "The Great Depression", which saw the mass migration of independant farmers from large banking combines from the midwest in large factories that mass produced shoddy goods and drove millions of independant crafts people and small businesses into bankrupcy.

It was the worse economic decline in the history of the United States and most people attribute it to the lack of market regulation and exploitive labor practices of free market industrialists.

There is no help in people that enjoy being cucked to such a degree like people being ready to pay willingly foir education.

Sadly, it doesn't work that way. Instead they end up allowing useless idiots to get into college based on their skin color or people who want to study useless subjects like African Basket Weaving, and then blame the Jews or something for their inability to find employment.

So you are saying the best way for me to avoid paying out the nose for life saving medication is not government regulation, but to simply "take one for the team"?

The Nordic countries are mixed economies like the rest of us. They are definitely not the best working countries. They are probably the best to live comfortably in, but that's only until they run out of the money they gained from liberalizing their economies.
You're paying for it with your taxes, Hans.

Oh sure socialism works better because you are better. Listen to yourself dumbass, maybe their succes is not due to their socialism but because they have always been richer. Also I fucking doubt scandinavian countries are 100% socialist.

You too but you have too pay again

Well, this is what happens when schools are for profit. I mean, the goal of a for-profit prison system isn't to rehabilitation as well, it's to keeps as many prisoners in the system.

No, without the government-created monopolies, there would be more than one company making the drug.

The 50s-60s economic boom happened because Europe and Japan were blown up in WWII and we had no economic competition. That and we made $$$ rebuilding them and selling them goods.

>The period you are referring to is known as "The Great Depression", which saw the mass migration of independant farmers from large banking combines from the midwest in large factories that mass produced shoddy goods and drove millions of independant crafts people and small businesses into bankrupcy

The Depression had ended in most countries by 1935, but FDR dragged it out a decade here with his inane socialistic policies.

>those charts, they love charts
So. is that bad? should i be sad?

only difference between Germany and the US is that you pay twice.

Site your claims

Which was what the Progressive Movement was

If he is dissatisfied with his job then all the luck to him for finding a new one

And I hope you're aware, in your analogy, he'd be just as happy to piss on yours too pinko

Those who fail to put solid effort into the free pre-collage education they receive shouldn't be allowed to get into higher education consequence free

Guatemala is in Central America, you geographic illiterate

Furthermore, regulating the interactions between consumer and producer is only part of the hurtle of Socialism, and having a Capitalist economy disqualifies you from Socialism

>Nordics are pure socialism
And you're pure idiocy

so bono is a commie ''muh equality'' cuck?

Tax-funded education creates more socially mobile and an overall healthies society than education that is funded by private debt.

Big corporations love regulations and socialism because it protects their monopolies and allows them to be lazy and not have to develop the best products and services, since no competitor with a better product can arise.

there is no one definition of socialism

The government didn't create the monopoly, the company did. They filed a patent. Are you saying we should abolish intellectual property laws?

Yeah, because the content of the chart can summed up with this:

The American Dream is dead.

That's something you can be pretty sad about.

How did the government create monopolies? Monopolies form by big companies pushing out all the competition, they're the result of the government not doing anything to stop them.

The US is not unregulated capitalism so I don't see your point.
Yes, if you don't want to pay so much for life-saving drugs