Was the Nazi war machine the most dominant and powerful military until its defeat in 1945?

Was the Nazi war machine the most dominant and powerful military until its defeat in 1945?

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Yes

What's a nazi?

no cause they were defeated

Hardly. Got rekt marching into Russia.

Single military, not 2/3rds of the world.

Alone they were more powerful than the US alone. More powerful than Soviet Russia alone etc.

Only because Russia had massive material aid from the US. Without that aid, Russia would have been destroyed if Nazi Germany weren't fighting a war on 3 fronts.

it was definitely the shortest

The Nazi war machine could have single-handedly fucked up any country one vs one.

every German Soldier killed like 15 Russians

that is hardly what I call rekt Boleg

>muh statism

>what are allied forces
"Nazi" Germany alone was the strongest nation, period.

Yes and no. I believe Americans were still more advanced, but we also have a lot of Germans too, but I think our strongest genetic wealth were definitely from the Brits.

Nazis invented the assault rifles, rockets, the autobahn, but I think Americans were way more advanced in other things. NAZIs had to use our computers and motorized vehicles.

Europe probably would have been better under German rule, though they probably would have been taken over by brits eventually.

A national socialist, which should not be looked down upon

They fucked up invading Russia. They would have fucked the US if they had enough time.

A "nazi" is a slur for a national socialist. It's like using the term "libtard" for liberals, believing it's a neutral term.

>NAZIs had to use our computers
>1940
>computers

please stop

>Europe probably would have been better under German rule

for some, not for others

I have a nazi fetish.
I have a really big fucking nazi fetish.
I want a nazi war machine to dominate me powerfully.
Fuck.

I'm lurking to see where this goes.

I wish they would've won, if i'd still be born (arian) I think this world would be far more developed. I see no reason why i shouldn't be able to enjoy life under nazi rule.

Probably i wouldn't even know about jews or stuff like that, i hope they would've turned on the muslims and eradicated them.

wait... okay i change my mind

Americans were definitely better.

They would have nuked Germany.

It's gotten so bad throughout the years.
I'm fapping over a ww2 (Replica?) nazi officer knife guys.
I need help.

this

not for you jews..

the germans came out of one of the worst economic depressions the western world has ever seen to raise an army and new technology to threaten the entirety of europe.

Russia was a bad move, and I think they would have fared better by getting their jewish neighbors onboard instead of you know.

strongest tanks, jets, rockets, assault rifles. yea they bit off more than they could chew.

not really easy to answer to that.

mostly NO - they wasnt, because they were defeated and could only rush half-europe because their oppponents were just badly prepared for such a case.
Also the nazi-machinery could stand the test of time only 6 years, thats far away from other empires.
Romans and Ottomans lasted for hundreds of years til they fall
The former British Empire also lasted a few decades.
Even the US is an Empire since the first world war

But of course, it was definitly impressive how the nazis run over europe.
It is clear they set the right goals and developed a few new techniques.

wtf are you talking? more than the half german army was wasted in russia, its a real shame the us and brits had such problems attacking the remainig armies

dude just shut the fuck up and browse some mlp-bullshit...

> more powerful than the US

I'll take "What is nuclear fission?" for $500. Germany was at least 5 years behind on building a nuke.

they invaded russia at winter

It was really gay youtu.be/QTcf0ujFG7A

Soviets vs US in damage to the 3rd Reich:

Soviets:
Fought the Germans for 4 years.
Highest motivation as they were fighting for their own homeland.
Right next to their supply source.
No other enemies to deal with at the time.


US :
Fought Germany for less then one year
Moderate motivation as they were fighting for someone elses homeland.
5000+ miles away from their supply source.
Fought the Empire of Japan at the same time and even before fighting the
Germans. Defeating Empire of Japan pretty much by itself.

Also don't forget the 10's of million of tons of supplies the US sent to Britain
and the Soviets before it even entered the war.

>they didn't have computers in the 40s

your nigger is showing

As much as I love the NAZI war machine I would have to say that ultimately it would have been defeated. Even if it had won in Russia and even if it had turned back the Allies in Normandy on D-day or at the battle of the bulge, the US would have still developed the Atom bomb first. The initial plan was for it to be used on Berlin however the war finished sooner so the Japs ended up being the guinea pigs.

So due to this vast technological advancement the US even had it lost all battels up to that point would eventually develop the bomb and nuke NAZI Germany into submission. So even though they were advanced in more in many areas and had some of the best elite undeniably some of the best Divisions in the history of warfare, by declaring war on the US sealed their fate. Had the US not entered then they may have done it

You gotta realise how close the nazies were to the a-bomb. The norwegian rebellion luckily halted their development alot, yeah the americans might have been first yet but the germans were also very close

ura faggit,

Germany never will be fighting one on one bro we're all itching to do it again....soon

This time will be different.

no the US is not an empire, it is a federation. unless you mean like a figure of speech.

Germany's army was stronger, but the Russians used cold to kill a lot of them, along with Hitler going bat shit crazy thinking every one of his plans would succeed without a hitch so he would just send his men to march into Russia without enough food to make the journey.

Ever heared of the enigma machine?

This guy has a point, we only got the a bomb because of scientists we got from other countries. We weren't anything special we just got there a little bit sooner

We are judging armies, not nukes.

THAT WASN'T A COMPUTER RETARD, ALL IT DID WAS SPIT OUT LOTS OF NUMBERS NOTHING ELSE.

How's that different from a computer which works with 0 and 1's ?

Does it matter? All that needs to be remembered is the British beat them with cardboard tanks, ice cream vans and spam.

>americans
They didn't do anything significant they literately came when millions of men on both sides died, and when germany was fighting a war on 3 fronts. Also being across the Atlantic helps with the fact that you didn't feel any direct effect of the war.

There was this Sup Forums post about some key victories in world war 2 and none of them were american.

Indeed, cracked by a British homo in a shed.

because a modern computer does it in a much more intelligent level, its like saying that if i manually try to unlock a 4 digit lock and go singularly 1111 -> 1112 -> 1113 etc that i am a computer.... some people are such retards on this board i swear to fucking god... you cunts trigger me so much sometimes

Not as strong as America's gonna be after I build that fucking wall

>trigger me

Ok they fought 2 wars, but what finally won the war, was the nuclear bomb. Which was made by.
German scientists.
And if it wasn't for the fact that they simply surrendered for america because. The living conditions were better than russia.

Also pic related you were lucky you weren't surrounded by 10 different countries which were culturally different from you and had their own ideals.

i get triggered by retarded cunts, like when you see a nigger doing nigger shit and get that feeling.

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>Modern computer

I'm not talking about a modern age computer, I'm merely pointing out the fact that you can discuss what you define as a computer. The first computers had almost zero calculating powers. Also getting triggered by a discussion on a internet board.

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>slur
Why do dumbasses think this? Nazi is synonymous with National Socialist, you morons.

>American NAZI Party

it wasn't a computer, it was specifically designed to break codes. there is no computing power behind it... all it did was systematically (via electrons) spit out numbers in an orderly fashion and they just happened to get lucky one day because the germans fucked up. it didnt even do shit until HUMANS intervened

Winter rekt them, not the subhuman asiatic hordes.

>Fought Germany for less then one year
You must be forgetting about North Africa and Italy
in 1942 and 1943

I'm curious what your education discipline is
Please tell me

I fucking hate Germany and the smugness of their people

irrelevant, i watched the enigma code which is factually based off what happened

Germany conquer nearly the whole world im pretty sure that Germany would beat any other country in a 1 n1

Actually they invaded in summer, but were held up in the winter.

The enigma machine was a mechanical encryption device.

Theoretically I suppose you could call it a computer, although it only had one function that it could perform. This is still a German "computer" however.

Is that the ENIAC?

It was located in the US (and the Germans didn't have access to it) and I believe its design function was to calculate artillery trajectory tables for different firing conditions.

Indeed, a computer but nothing useful on the battlefield.

Modern computer is defined as something which works with electrical pulses (0s and 1s) rather than with someone cranking gears.

I would argue that the enigma machine is a mechanical computer designed to perform 1 function (such is the limitation where your programming "language" is arranging the mechanisms inside).

They were and they weren't, they were the best army until around 1943, they had been prepared for war earlier than anybody, since 1933. Stalin believed that Hitler wouldn't risk a two front war in Europe and believed he was safe, obviously Hitler smashed France and there was no second front, by 1943 Russia 4/5 of output was dedicated to the war effort, and they began to outproduce Germany in both quantity and quality. I forget the quote exactly, but when Stalin told one of his advisors that he had learned of Germany's preparation for Operation Barbarossa, somebody replied by basically saying no matter what happens, who fights and where, germany will never conquer Russia. it's simply too big, Stalin, unlike Kutuzov in 1815 saved Moscow, but he could have retreated and retreated, Germany would never have had the power to beat it, yes their army was huge, but they were stretched 1000km from Berlin to Mozdok, and then 1000km from Finland to Turkey, if Stalin fought alone he would have had the option to retreat and retreat just as Kutuzov. He didn't because he had the power to defend Moscow

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this picture is interesting

actually they have heavy water factories and understood how to split the atom, they just didn't see the advantage of irradiating the entire planet.

Even if these are bait, with a BA in computer science, I officially can say you are retarded.

its called an analog computer fuckwits.

You're an imbecil

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>this
thank you, dear comrade

You're the retard, m8. Computers actually work EXACTLY the same way, just much faster. All computer logic is still fundamentally binary and will be until quantum computing becomes a thing.

I think the Russia was more powerful at the start of WWII, but if Germany would have waited a few years they would have been much more powerful and WWII might have taken another turn.

the oldest computer is actually an ancient Greek device used to predict astronomical events, it's called the antikythera machine/ mechanism

also Poland actually cracked the enigma code before the English, can't remember exactly how but basically German soldiers, in their day to day handling of the machine were lazy, they wouldn't scramble the machines prior to use like they were supposed to, they would sign off, and people would sign off with the same initials, etc etc, basically repetition is the key to cracking codes

you're welcome pal. willing to share some more of my knowledge if anybody has any questions

>intelligent
>starts at 1111
You have to start at 0000 dude.

This.
I don't care if it's gears or water.
A computer is a machine that computes

>also Poland actually cracked the enigma code before the English, can't remember exactly how
Some polish people found an enigma machine and were able to decode the messages.

I back this user's claim.

having an enigma machine doesn't allow you to crack it, the enigma machine was in production since 1920s, it was used by a lot of armies

it's not a claim it's a fact, it exists

>other countries
These "other countries" were german regime- and later war-refugees. Not to mention the "voluntary" requisition of all remaining loyal german scientists during and after the war.

Look up operation "paperclip".

I meant on Poland's cracking of the enigma first, sorry.

It was dominant as long as it had momentum. Once it lost that momentum, they began losing because they couldnt muster enough resources to sustain the war machine.

They defeated themselves. Hitler was no general, but was seems to have been acting as one. No one had the balls to stand up to him. They managed to snatches defeat from the jaws of victory, though they military minds like Rommel.

Are you sure they cracked it?
I thought they just had the machine.

>raspuza
>siberian hordes after Japan guaranteed peace

yeah I think they cracked it, but the Germans discovered that it was compromised and switched it all up, and then clamped down hard on how it was actually being used by people, ie: no more heil hitler on the end of every message, which makes it pretty difficult to crack

this guy is right, basically the Germans had the Blitzkrieg, which could only really last for a few days, if you know about the battle of Dunkirk, the German panzers rolled all the way to near the coast, but Hitler stopped them from going in to basically take Dunkirk itself, because Blitzkrieg was only really meant for short bursts of extreme military might, ie: fucking up the Benelux countries and Czechoslovakia, not Russia. Russia had the Deep Battle tactics which were invented by Tukhachevsky I think, basically you go well behind the enemy, cut off their supplies and then surrounded, which is what happened in Stalingrad, the Caucasus, etc etc, the Germans lost a HUGE amount of men which were simply captured, I think 600,000 in the Caucasus alone.

They definitely cracked it, not like they could really do anything with the information they had though, they had no army, and were beaten quickly.

Rommel wasn't actually as successful a commander as history would have you believe, in Africa, the Germans relied almost entirely on information being passed by an American military attache, who was using out of date codes which were being decoded an hour after, Rommel referred to him as his 'good source'

in France, Rommel didn't really succeed much

Wrong. Germany in WWI was much better. Their platform was essentially to return to how they were in WWI.

Also, Heisenberg nearly nuked them. His reactor melted down and destroyed his lab, thus putting an end to the Nazi A-bomb effort. He could not get any funding after that.

They didn't know how to make it into a bomb, not because they didn't want too.

comparing the v2 to a cruise missile LAOHAHAHFAHFHAFHADSHFDSHFGSDLKGHSDKL:GHSDF:GKHJSDFKg

The USA stole the knowledge needed to build a nuke from the germans.

Yea, all he did was wrote the book on tank warefare.

I think most of the information decoded by the Polish was given to their petty civilian militias who proceeded to harass German supply lines going to the Russian front.

Not true. It was the jew! Einstein, Edward Teller. . . etc