Has anyone else noticed an uprising of beta male types being coerced into being in an open relationship?

Has anyone else noticed an uprising of beta male types being coerced into being in an open relationship?

I've seen at least 3 close friends of mine in the past year end up in an open-relationship where their girlfriend claims to be polyamorous(asserting she is naturally that way) so that she is able to fuck other guys. But usually the guy doesn't benefit from this exchange, his attempts to sleep with other women are generally met with some sort of hostility or jealousy.

It hasn't personally happened to me but for some reason it really really irritates me to watch it unfold.

Everyone has a mental illness and its starting to become a norm in the us, vote trump and make america great again

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Well mental illness is one trend. But with this one specifically, I just don't understand it

I guess.

Like do these girls just not get that you naturally want to fuck people all the time and being committed to one individual entails just fucking them? Like it isn't being poly-amorous, it's being a slut and an asshole. I mean, I want to fuck girls all the time(just like most of you) but I don't claim that it makes me poly-amorous. If I did try to rationalize sleeping around with other women I feel like it would make me an asshole.

And I guess that reveals that I do in fact have the opinion that open-relationships are horse-shit.

I simply don't believe they make sense.

I feel like at the end of the day one of them loses and to keep the other one happy they don't bitch about it.

America should be nuked, people are literally turning into filth

HOLY MOTHER FUCKING SHIT THIS LITTERALLY JUST HAPPENED TO ME. MY GF MET THIS GUY IN AN "OPEN" RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS GF BUT SHE FUCKED GUYS AND HE SAT AT HOME AND PLAYED WOW. MY GF BASICALLY THOUGHT THAT SOUNDED AWESOME THEN FUCKED HIM AND TOLD ME ABOUT IT THEN TRIED TO GET ME TO BE HER BETA CUCK FAG FUCK BOY. HOLY SHIT THIS IS LIKE SOME FUCKING EPIDEMIC

Did you tell her to fuck off?

everyone is out to fuck everyone else and if you look back at the most intense moments of connection between yourself and other people you will see that they were bonds of temporary alliance or mutual admiration in combat. everything else is a charade.

agreed

But the charade arises from true intelligence and logic.

It is what has allowed us to ascend from beings that rely solely on primal feelings.

Most girls I bang in open relationships are shopping for their next guy, and continue putting out after he decides it's not open anymore.

Sounds about right.

>It hasn't personally happened to me
So sad, OP.
All your friends are getting mad, free pussy and can still get strays and you are still foreveralone.
I weep for you (metaphorically).

well its like systematized so the violence underlying our existence is traded fractionally as debt, so you buy this and I buy that, you say this and I say that, and somewhere a sandnigger's head flies off (so ours don't have to).

I'm in a relationship and the sex is fine. So I mean, foreveralone in the respect that I don't fuck a bunch of women, but I'm happy.

I'm fairly sure my sister in law cucks her boyfriend, although from what I hear he doesn't like to fuck much anyway. And she's visiting soon. So I intend on fucking her. My wife has been told I'm ganna find another hole to fuck when she isn't available or in the mood. It'd be nice if that was her sister, even just while she's visiting. Although my wife also knows that if she fucks another guy im leaving her ass, no questions or hesitation.
Life is good at times. And then it's shit all the rest of the time

Youuuuuu should probably leave your wife if you are going to treat her that way.

do sumthin about it fag

The idea is that the one is acceptant of the all but the reality is that they have created the wall around them to be singular. So, the one with the increased visibility tries to convince the other but views are skewed so there is no compromise. We are who we see.

Well I mean. Not much I can do, but if you fuck other women but insist she doesn't I'm sure that can't possibly turn out well a few years down the road.

Says fucking who nigger? I sit down with her and have a rational conversation about it. I let her know I want a second wife. It obviously doesn't go from 0-100 instantly, gatta fuck a few girls first before I find that second wife. She has the opportunity to let me know her thoughts on my intentions. And if she dislikes it she's free to tell me. But life is short and shitty. So I don't particularly give a shit, if I wanna fuck my wife's sister I will. If I wanna fuck her friends I will. If I wanna fuck some bitch I met at circle k, guess what the fuck I'm ganna do?
And who the fuck are you to judge me? It's not like I'm beating her. It's not like I'm doing it behind her back. She's fully fucking aware, that's just how shit is.

Simple, don't be too involved in your relationship when your partner's a bitch. Just fuck her a few times and be done with it. If you let something like this happen to you and your gf talks you into it, you deserve it for being such a pussy.

Either find a girl that's a decent human being or just fuck around with girls without committing to anything. Everyone's doing it, why aren't you?

Lol anybody can judge anybody get over it.

That's the thing. I'm just expressing the opinion that I think it's all really stupid and misguided, and never seems to work out.

So I fail to see whats so glorious about it.

Hey, third party here, just announcing that I'm siding with the nigger over the cuck.

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i dont think it's a new trend or anything, but its something quite a few couples try in their 20s or 30s or whatever

i dont think it is females coercing males into it as much as like, they bring it up almost as a test, and you kind of fail if you agree to it in the first place.

then they fuck some other dude and you are crying, washing the bedsheets in the kitchen sink, and everyone realizes it was a big mistake...

but yeah i mean, if a your girl says she wants to be in an open relationship, chances are she is hoping you will fight her on it, not just agree

Because either way, man or woman, you have a limited libido.

So if you go out and fuck some bitch, or if your wife rides some douche. Then comes home, and you want to get intimate. It's not going to work out, one of you isn't going to be into it and it is going to be taxing on the relationship.

Either you or her is going to end up feeling inferior to whatever strange is outside of the relationship.

Then, you both realize that hey, you are fucking other people, what's unique about us? We share Money? Fuck it lets go our separate ways.

I'm currently watching this happen to one of my friends and it's just fucking retarded.

at the risk of sounding like some bullshit marriage councelling informertial I think we need to channel such primal feelings. Like I totally let go to that in bed and go full caveman when fucking a girl, taking full control of situation, throwing them around, pinning them down, chocking, pulling hair. I think thats the only way you should have sex
this guy, when sexual tension is at its heighest all your sensory perceptions to sexual act is at their most sensitive. when youve fucked a girl before you know what to expect. my girls friend is so hot for my dick everytime we are in the room together the tension is palpable, will be double teaming her with my girl next chance I get.

Well my gf hasn't really expressed any interest in it. Which is nice for me because I'm not really sure how I'd handle that.

I'd probably explain calmly that I would end the relationship in that scenario. I don't have time for reindeer games.

Well of course, and you channel it to your girlfriend or spouse and she'll love it.

I just think it's unfair to "release" such tension outside of the relationship solely because it does remove some of the passion if the two of you decide to fuck eachother.

If humans had infinite energy, libido, etc, It may be a slightly different story but that simply isn't the case. I mean that's why masturbating too much has a pretty shitty impact on your sex life.

I have a friend that has been through numerous "open" relationships, and they always end up playing out the same way: He gets with a girl, she claims to be cool with it at the start, she gets attached, he starts doing his thing with other girls as he said he would do, the first girl gets upset, they break up, rinse, repeat.

It's absolute bullshit though, he just uses it as a convenient excuse to get out of the relationship easily.

Unless both parties are legitimately sexually interested in the cuckolding in both directions, it will always end up in heartbreak for one of the two involved.

I've been in 3 open relationships. I miss all the side pussy I got during those. You need a good tall glass of mind your own fuckin business. It's not your relationship right.....so it's not your business how it's played out. There all adults, if the guy doesn't like what he's got he can leave as much as the woman can leave if she doesn't like it. You know the best part of being a man, not having to give a fuck what other people are doing in their lives as long as it doesn't affect me.

I honestly feel like the only open relationship that could ever really work is one where both parties agree never to have sex with each-other and that they can be in awe of eachother and do things together like arts & crafts, but that's it.

Ultimately there are primal feelings of jealousy and protection with whatever mate you have. I am reluctant to believe there are any human beings that don't feel this way.

Well that's why I'm on Sup Forums dude. I don't go up to these people and tell them how to run their life. I bitch about it on a forgettable thread on a website viewed by people I'll never ever meet.

The reason I do this is because I do want to have a conversation about it, but this is literally one of the only places I can.

I mean, okay for instance your open relationship.

Side pussy is obviously a plus because that is one of the benefits of being in an open-relationship.

But I mean, when you really thought about some dude stuffing the fuck out of your girlfriend, did you think to yourself "Huh, yeah this is my cup of tea, shes really enjoying that person who isn't me fucking the shit out of her"

I appreciate mine was a conflicted statement, however I think good compromise is if you both together spontaneously decide to fuck another person. Then you are maintaining the relationship whilst stepping outside.

My girl likes girls so ive been luckily enough that we have double teamed a few girls together, shit was cash, because my girl kinda takes over in making the other girl submissive to me and is fucking so hot being worshipped by to fine ass little thangs.

this being said I dont know how I would feel acout if we double teamed a guy, I am not into guys at all and my girl has never expressed an interest in this but I appreciate myargument is hypocritical because of this fact

I feel that way with my wife, sure.

I am confident that she isn't cheating on me due to having been cheated on hard by her ex, and I don't cheat on her, and both of us have ample opportunity to do so with me working a job that takes me on the road for weeks on end.

That being said, if I did find out that she did, I would be jealous and angry, as most people would in that situation.

Her and I have had countless conversations laying out how we feel about things like that in no uncertain terms, and came to agreements on how we would like our relationship to be structured.

Well see, and this is where a lot of people may be like "Ohh this guys a prick", I just don't really think women having sex with eachother is sex.

If my gf fucked a girl I would be like "Heh, alright"

Like it just wouldn't bother me at all. But if it was a guy it'd be a completely different story.

You could always just ask the dude straigth out like "what's the turn on...you actually get some side action?" and see what he says. I'm good with women so it backfired on one of the girls that suggested we have an open relationship. She thought it meant she could fuck her co-worker....it also meant I could fuck her friend from elementary school, a girl she worked with, a girl in my apartment building, a girl from the bus, and some other rando's that I'd meet. She apparently didn't understand what open means. But she was the only 1 of the 3 that was like that. The other 2 were good with it but both were kinda hipster chicks and I couldn't deal with all their baggage and feminist bullshit.

Well I guess one of the things that makes me rage is when I asked him about it, he said that he is okay with it because he "thinks it's a phase"

Which I mean, he could be right, but I can also discern from that that he doesn't like the idea long term, which means he is just waiting on her to change.

If I'm in a monogamous relationship then it would piss me off. If it's open then it's open and that's what happens dude. Most of the time I found that they don't actually find guys that are good in bed. I'm a pretty attentive lover so it's usually their loss. It comes with knowing what kind of man you are as well. I don't care if his dick is bigger or smaller than mine. For me as long as she's not telling him she loves him then I'm good with it.

He sounds weak, and very desperate to hang onto someone that probably thinks very little of him, besides in terms of simple convenience.

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Yea, I'm going with what this user said

Well I guess that for one part is a testament against my belief that nobody could possibly be okay with it.

But lets say she fucks a guy and he is turbo-way the fuck better at it than you. Wouldn't irk you?

I was in a open relationship with my ex, she was bi and had a thing going on with a married chick way before I showed up. The husband was cool with it, I was cool with. But the second I told her I was gonna go out with a chick I met the other day, she decided she was gonna brake up with me. She is now dating two chicks.

LOL, no, that's life dude. I'm of the mindset that I'd want to improve as well, ask what she liked, what she didn't and improve my game as well. You can either get pissed or you can take it like a man and learn from it and move forward better than you were before.

Well I dunno about prick, haha, 'oh check this guy out his girlfriend instigated a threesome with her female friends and he said yes, what an asshole'.

I dont know youd be surprised girls really like girls and they know how girls 'tick' so its pretty fun to watch, I mean I cant get off watching lesbian porn but when your witnessing it in front of you shit is so fucking hot.

I will have to agree with you on the guy thing though, something intangible that makes it seem intangible.

The weird thing is I like to think that if my girl REALLY wanted to fuck someone, why should I stand in her way, I mean we are all here only once. Also men dont massively care about the guys that fucked their girl before they got with them, but then after theyve slept with YOU, you get all wigged out by the idea of any men that come after you.

Wellllllllllll. It's a fucked up scenario, he married her to get a green card. So he has to be okay with it because if he isn't he doesn't get his citizenship.

But he genuinely does love her, I know he does. But she goes off and develops feelings for another guy and claims to be poly amorous.

Just frustrates me. I'm not really sure why, I mean, it doesn't affect me in any way, yet it just pisses me off to watch it happen.

Not OP, but I don't know if I believe what you claim or not.

When you were in these open relationships, how many other men did these women sleep with that you know of? Did you want them to tell you if they did? Did they volunteer the information, did it just slip out at times, or did you have to pry it out of them?

Take what like a man though. A guy fucking your wife or girlfriend better than you.

What exactly are you "taking", a negative feeling?

That's a tough one, then. Sounds like they both went into that relationship for less than stellar reasons.

I can understand your feeling frustrated for your friend's situation though, especially when he is forced to stay in it to obtain the Citizenship he desires.

She gets financial assistance and lots of pampering by him, or so I assume?

>conti...
She was Ok with a threesome with a friend of hers, me going out with another guy, me going out alone with her friend from the threesome, just me going out with some random girl. WTF?

In the 1 where I fucked a bunch of girls she was with the 1 guy maybe a dozen times(she was the funniest, when breaking up with me crying she says "I don't even know why I did it, he couldn't even make me cum like you" to which I responded laughing "well why the fuck would you keep doing it, sounds kinda dumb to me"). The others were 3 or 4 each. I didn't talk about it other than "did you have a fun night/afternoon". I don't need to hear about their conquests and I didn't talk about mine. I ended the 2nd and 3rd ones myself, not because of the sex, but like I said, personality shit.

She sounds like she was a delight, and not at all fucked up. A real shame she got away.

Nice meme ahmed

Yeah, financial assistance, lots of pampering.

But like, the other dude that gets to fuck her doesn't have to put up with all of that shit. So I just feel like it isn't an equal situation.

By take it like I man I mean deal with it in an adult fashion. Just because somebody was better in bed than I was doesn't make me less of a man or mean that I have to get angry. I've been with lots of women and I'm sure plenty of those women have been with lots of guys. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say meh, who cares as some guys are better than me and some aren't. If a girl leaves me after good sex with another guy, she wasn't worth keeping anyways and I'm not staying if I'm not getting any myself.

Sounds like those relationships were unhealthy to me, or fabricated, but as you said to OP earlier, none of anyone else's business but the people directly involved, so none of my business either.

I am monogamous, and as far as I know, my wife is too, so I am curious how the "other side" lives.

Totally. She broke up with me on account of me not being completely her's. The hole thing is still confusing to me. Oh well... Life goes on.

I really want to know about the reflex feeling.

Like, what you do about the feeling is one thing "Take it like a man and learn and chop wood in the backyard and light a fire and rebuild that carburetor I've wanted to fix"

But if you think about a man fucking someone you love, even if you are in an open relationship, you don't get a split second kind of fight-or-flight feeling in your stomach?

What you do with the information afterwards is another thing, but I really want to know.

first wasn't healthy, you're correct. She was an entitled bitch, thought the world owed her a happy ending. One of those people that doesn't realize that you can pick your actions but can't pick your consequences(good or bad).The 2nd and 3rd were alright women, but not the kind I could spend my life with.

The other dude that gets to fuck her isn't after anything else from her aside from pussy though, I am guessing.

I agree with you that it is shitty, and isn't really fair for your friend, but your friend isnt just in the relationship for the relationship's sake.

He just had the misfortune of falling in love with a person that doesn't love him back in the same way, and is for all intents and purposes tied to in a business transaction.

I guess so, perhaps he just doesn't really care.

if people can make it work then good for them but 9 times out of 10 its just an excuse to cheat without actually "cheating"

If my gf mentioned it to me i'd dump her on the spot. The fact they even have to mention means they have been considering it themselves for a long time and have been considering sleeping with others or already have.

I guess perhaps I'd have to re-adjust my stance and say, I don't believe open relationships exist where the people actually are in love with eachother.

They may "Love" them like a friend or something. But It just doesn't register with me that someone you really are in love with could fuck someone else and you not be deeply hurt by it.

To be honest, I don't get that feeling. I know what you're saying, but I'm saying that it's just not for me. If I found out my wife who is monogamous with me and I am with her was sneaking around behind my back, that's different, that's a breach of trust and it's going to piss me off. I'm all about trust and respect and if we make the rules we both play by the rules so no it never did bother me. Now don't confuse me with being a cuck, I'm not getting off on listening to her fuck another guy. If the sex is happening and I'm around then that's not cool. I'm not a watcher, I'm a participant.

>Coerced
Topkek.
I ain't never been in a relationship because i refuse to be in a monagamous one.
Why the fuck would i CHOOSE to limit my personal growth and opportunities?

in other words more than half of people who claim to be poly-amorous just want to be
POLY-FUCKAROUS .
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That's the biggest thing; having a set of boundaries that both parties agree to and adhere to. Communication is key.

This dude. This dude gets it.

You can't claim /Thread in your own post, retard. That's like high fiving yourself.

absolutely, you can't just wake up and say "hey lets fuck other people" you have to have rules about what's ok and what isn't. FIrst time around wasn't good like I said. Only because she didn't like the rules after I fucked a couple other girls.

Well see. Another thing would be. I assume you are in a monogamous relationship with your wife because you are in love with her.

Maybe you weren't in love with the previous girls and that's why its okay?

And I'd like to stress that I mean that as a question, not some sort of accusation or anything.

I agree with that though. I mean, at that point just don't be in a relationship to begin with. Just be really good friends that fuck sometimes and also fuck other people.

I mean, okay so women can "have sex" with one another. But it is only my brain that knows about culture that registers it as sex.

But the deep internal reflex that would normally be triggered by me seeing my mate being fucked by another beast would not at all be triggered by some chick strumming around my GF.

There is no innate/natural purpose for me to be outraged by that.

Sup Forums is all about claiming absurdities high fiving yourself should be the least of your triggers.

>Clearly dosent know the fundamental difference between a "open relationship" and polygamy

We're monogamous because that's how she wants it. I'd prefer open but I'm fine with not straying. For me there's a huge line between sex and love and I know that line is very blurred for many people. Like I said, I understand, but it's just not me. I could tell you an open relationship with my wife would never work, she's the kind that would get very jealous and think that because I had sex with somebody else that I didn't love her when that wouldn't be the case at all. So for her yea, it would hurt her like mad. It's a really individual thing, especially if you have strong feelings one way or the other.

Fuck that, Sounds to me like a chick is just banking a guy/ having a backup. If nothing better comes along then he's a security. Sure everyone wants to fuck everyone. Be single.

Well thanks for responding to all my crap. I guess this broadens my view on the subject a tad. I've been very reluctant to believe a man in love with a woman wouldn't be deeply disgusted by her fucking someone else. But I guess there are people out there that it doesn't bother.

No worries dude. It's sometimes hard to look at a viewpoint from another perspective especially on a strongly held belief.

Well I am really honestly relaying infomation. These chicks will interchange "Satisfying primal urges" with "Polyamorous" which really means loving multiple people, not just banging other people.

I haven't seen the word polygamy said anywhere in all of this though.

>Treating your relationship as an individual case instead of holding it to some universal standard.
You're winning.

lmao your wife is a fucking idiot. just leave her then proceed to fuck whoever you want. whats the point of being married if youre going to do this shit?

>What's the point of being married?
Fixed that for you.

Source?
Sauce?

shit Sup Forums was actually good today. Who'da guessed?

I went to google, typed "Girl getting fucked in the ass" and then went to images.

>Itt very few people who have ever been in a relationship or known th feeling of love.
Makes me sad.
>protip relationships are dynamic

I went to google images and typed "Girl getting fucked in the ass"

I'd normally say Sup Forums was never good but then trips says it was.....

Sry about that, I posted the first one and it didn't appear.

some people want to be with another person forever. on lock.
if you do not want this, why get married? makes 0 sense

I mean but that is what marriage is.

>Never heard of divorce
Learn2reality

>be dating 7/10
>going on 6 months
>she sees an article on poly relationships
>brings up the idea
>I tell her that I'll be having sex with other women too
>she says that she'll keep with a monogamous one
>a month later
>tells me that her best friend is in an open relationship
>I tell her I'm still not up for it
>next week tells me that having sex with another guy was refreshing, she banged best friend's boyfriend
>pack her stuff up and kick her out
>make it known on Facebook that she couldn't stop herself from banging other guys
>mfw she was defended by her friends

Women should never have been given voting rights. Their hormone riddled brain can't cope with complex decision making

I totally agree in the aspect that lots of girls these days claim to be poly-whatever to sleep around.

My point was that there are legit people who can love (and be intimate) with more then one person and are in a polyamorous type relationship.

I said polygamy cause it's more specific to my point and polyamorous can be a rather general term for many partner relationships, it's more serious I'd say