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Every day during the Euro games I read "this match is so boring, this match sucks" and people start posting porn or some shit

but even today the sports reporter (around 40 years old) said that the Sweden vs Italy first half was the worst he had seen in his entire life

has it really been that bad?
was 24 a mistake?

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>was 24 a mistake?
yes

there's more aggression in the copa america because there's less spots in each group to get to the quarterfinals
in the euro 2016, the 3rd place team in a group could get past the group stage

>there's more aggression

Debatable. Just ask russians.

It isn't as bad as people are making it out to be

is it possible to have 24 teams but only top 2 advance? what's wrong with that?

the 1st half was great, the 2nd half was boring until the goal.

Lad if there's anything the Euros beat the Copa at its aggression

12 teams in the first knockout stage, no way to work that out. You'd have to implement a 2nd group stage with 3 teams each and 1 team going to the semis

ok lets really think about this one

normal copa has 8 out of 12 teams getting out of the group

this copa is padded with shitty teams and has games finishing 7-1 and 5-0. people think this is good?

Euros let in extra teams. Supposedly weak teams. Hungary win. Northern Ireland win. Albania play well against France. Iceland draw with Portugal. No games are blowouts. All games are competitive.

What is wrong with you people? Although I must admit that the first half of Italy today was fucking terrible..

The Euros are the toughest Football/Soccer competition of all.

>The 16 teams Euros are the toughest Football/Soccer competition of all.

Fixed

Both halves were boring as fuck , imo. Italy could've done much better and Sweden went full defense until someone reminded them they should go up front and attack. Hell , even Ibra was in his own half.

This. Everyone complains about shit teams but this has been one of the most competitive tournaments I've seen.

Spain-Turkey was the first real blow out where you could tell that the other team just doesn't belong on the same pitch

I called this game exactly as it happened, so I guess I enjoyed it more.

More goals doesnt always equate to more entertaining, my American friend. Can't stat pad in the Euros.

DESU I've been thoroughly entertained by most of the games. I dont get what people are bitching about.

Italy vs Sweden was horrific. The two games that followed were quite good though. Our first 4 goal game and our first game where a team scored 3 goals. And a steward almost had his hand blown off.

>normal copa has 8 out of 12 teams getting out of the group
and you have a format that is guilty of something similar

letting 3rd place teams through

Normal copa americas are shit now

Copa America > Euroshit

Czech Rep vs Croatia was the best match of today , imo. Had everything. Spain vs Kebab became boring after Morata's 2nd goal.

because a 5 goal game to weed out the obviously weak team WHO TRIES TO AT LEAST ATTACK is better than a 1-0 game where the weak team is fucking parking 10 men in the box for 80 minutes.

Northern Ireland and Iceland qualified properly for the tournament. They've not benefited from the expansion.

It's the style of football that's been the problem. Defensive football has been incentivised.

It was a conbination of:

Sweden pretending to be good at football when their national sports is goat mounting.

Italy going back to their famous catenaccio, dont blame them since the past 2 big tournaments (Euro 2012, WC 2014) when they actually tried to play some bretty gud ofenssive soccer, they got BTFO.

Just because one half was shit doesn't mean whole EC is. Also you shouldn't really take Sup Forums opinion as granted since most of people here are shitposting instead of watching matches. Watched all matches( except Slovakia-Russia) and I'm really loving it so far.

2^n niggretto

Italians are the best defensive minds in the world

They will never change

>Also you shouldn't really take Sup Forums opinion as granted since most of people here are shitposting instead of watching matches.
This.

I tried actively posting in a game thread a few times and at the end of the game I couldn't even tell which players played well.

Gentle reminder that Wales are going to come fourth

the only place wales are going to come is into a farm animal

ive enjoyed more of the 1-0,1-1 games than seeing the 3-0 tonight, i was bored by half time and had wandered off by the hour mark

the only decent matches I have watched so far imo were:
austria-hungary - if hungary offensive players didnt suck ass, it could have been even 0:4
belgium - italy - K E K, J U S T, E X P O S E D, E T C. nice goals by pele and that substitute from sunderland

It's pretty bad. The Italy game today was a new low.

LEL mein Freund

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HAHA god damn

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Like a Barn Owl?

To be honest, you could have a second group stage. It works in other competitions (like Euroleague, and the old CL) but there must be a reason it got taken out

people are just retarded
im really enjoying seeing teams like wales playing.
>24 teams making it boring because noone needs to win to advance
this meme is dumb i mean i remember that every 3rd match in group stage was boring because teams who already were out/got in next round just played shit to try new things

I'm really enjoying all the last minute goals and dumbledore meme fampai

Reminder we will get an extra knock out round of matches so it's not all bad

>what is maths

It was all boring as fuck, just as iceland vs portugal. Inferior teams know the other is better and so they just entrench in their half of the field. Just watch the match, on most of it you'll see from 8 to 9 people in swedish defence (+ the goalkeeper). It's just like that. Very hard to score at that point, or do anything at all

I don't understand why so many people complain about the 24 teams format. Something had to be done, because the euros would always have the same teams. So either the qualifications completely changed to make them more interesting and all the top tems could be placed in the same group, or they would add more teams for the tournament. I think in the long run, this will make countries develop their national teams as they gain more experience from participating at the euros. Before, it would be just very hard, because the qualification favours a lot the top nations and pretty much the euros had always the same teams in it, and maybe one or two outsiders that managed to be there god knows how.
But that's just me...i don't really rate these competitions. They're played in the summer, the top players are very tired, so normally i don't have high expecations to it. Still, I've been fairly entertained from all the matches i saw so far.
The Champions League, is imo the best and most important football competition in the world. It has all the top players from all confederations, all the top teams and every top player is at the peak of his physical form.

why not just bring the best teams instead of having teams like fucking albania participate?

They should have a tournament with every nation from every confederation, straight knock out from the start

I think players play with more heart in NT matches and sometimes that counts more than physical form. Also 4 year format make WC and EC more important competition than CL.
Also I think 24 format is better.

>implying Albania was bad
They played with 10 players against Switzerland and they could have won that game and France couldn't score on them for over 80 minutes. How are they bad?

Because in the qualications they had 4 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats. Scored 10 goals and concead 5, finishing 2nd in a group with the following nations: Portugal, Denmark, Serbia, Armenia.

Actually 3 goals were awarded to them when Serbia sperged over drone so actually it was 1 free win and 3 free goals. Their legit GD was 7-5 so not all that impressive but imo they are playing quite good in EC.

Wtf they gave them free goals? is this allowed?

It's FIFA

I dont think the Euros are played for the amusement of amerifats, its played for the european countries with teams participating.
For me, our matches have been ten time more entertaining than all of the rest, because I support our team and get involved, even if we play like shite.

What do foreigners actually except? That 24 teams will play fast tiki-taka Barcelona football? Those club teams that play crazy good football in european leagues have picked the best from all of the world into those few teams that are dominant and can play like that.
When Ronaldo, Zlatan, Lewandowski, Bale etc play with their NT they play with alot of average Joes that cant play on their level.

>Lewandowski
>play with alot of average Joes that cant play on their level.
He has never been great for the NT. I can't remember a single period of time when he was our best NT player.

due to incidents the Serbia-Albania match was interrupted halfway through it and Albania was awarded a 3-0 victory.

kek what? It was you that camped in your defensive zone, we had 60 % pos during the 1st half ffs, and 53 % vs 47 % after FT.

Dont act like you are some uber superior team. The team you fielded today was slightly better, if Zlatan didnt look like an uninterested diva today we could have won.
you had two chances the whole game and scored on one of them because our defender felt like sitting on his ass in the 88th minute.

It's hard to play great when you are constantly marked by 3 players. That's why Milik had so many great chances in first two matches, because defenders are busy caring about Lewa.

Show me one chance we created because Lewandowski was marked by 3 defenders.

>our defender felt like sitting on his ass in the 88th minute
kek, I have no idea why he did this

Maybe not 3 but still. Lewandowski creates so much space for other players that you really can't say he doesn't deliver. Milik is by far worst Polish player so far, missed so many great chances.

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it's not the format. it's your team being overrated shit.

Milik being shit doesn't mean Lewandowski is good.

He got space here because the Germans fucked up not because Lewandowski drew a gorillion defenders, he wasn't marked for the entire play. Lewandowski was marked by exactly 1 defender (Hummels), like he usually is.

The ones who fucked up were Howedes and Boateng because they doubled Grosicki in a 4 on 4 situation. Hummels and Hector played this well

Literally even shitty Yuro teams like Northern Ireland, Hungary or Iceland would blow the fuck out of all of Concacrap other than the US and Mexico.

24 is not too much because there are many good teams in europe but i think only the first 2 countries should make it

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honestly hummels and boateng were all over his dick for 90 minutes.

What were they supposed to do? Not be on his dick and let him score?

And 90% of the time it was just one of them

>What were they supposed to do? Not be on his dick and let him score?
yes
>And 90% of the time it was just one of them
'no'

kek, he has to be the only striker who is excused from being a goal threat because the other team actually has defenders. The supposedly best #9 at the tournament literally has 0 shots on target so far and took just 2 overall, both blocked. And there are people who are unironically defending this.

>'no'
Can you show me some instances of what did the team create because he kept so many defenders on him?

I kept hearing about how he constantly draws the entire defence and how that allows other to score. There must be something.

"competitive" does not mean entertaining.

yes the euros have been competitive, no they have not been entertaining.

>Can you show me some instances of what did the team create because he kept so many defenders on him?
do you not own a tv?
but seriously yes he has been under performing but he will still score

UEFA would dominate every single time. That's why they don't have that, I'm sure someone has proposed that idea before.

The game was stopped after HT because Serbiens couldn't handle the bantz

>do you not own a tv?
I do, and I never see any of it.

>but seriously yes he has been under performing but he will still score
True, the team has been outstanding but we really struggle to create and finish chances. We've only managed 4 shots on target in 2 games, Albania, Turkey and Sweden are the only teams who are worse in this regard. This will absolutely have to improve if we're to challenge the big teams in the knockouts, we can't rely on Pazdan having a game of his life each time.

yeah theres no guy to make chances. krychowiak is fantastic but you lads really need a modric

I'm not reading through the entire thread to find your discussion but i'm assuming it's the typical "lewandowski doesn't do anything for poland" meme

he playes with strangers a few times every couple of years, it's kinda hard for him to show up, just like any other world star like messi, ronaldo, bale, etc. they all seem to have bad games internationally for this reason. The successful team in Europe the past decade was Spain because they were 99% Barcelona/Real Madrid (pic related), so that's the secret formula for winning. If you don't have that and you just have a bunch of stars put together (argentina) then there's only so much you can do, and you just have to rely on a player making a play rather than a huge 20-pass buildup to a wonderful team goal. Those goals hardly exist anymore.
well I hope you see what i'm trying to say, i know it's hard as a polish fan not to blame Lewa but he's just one of the many stars that struggle because of today's modern club football of spending money everywhere

>Mandzukic doesn't even flinch

le, you can tell how he grew upl

All true. However, I don't expect him to do what he does at Bayern and score almost a goal every game. I expect him to be a goal threat and so far he has offered none of that. We're not going to go far if he doesn't improve.

The two Welsh matches have been the only good ones so far

>slightly better
>we could have won
>muh ball posessio

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! DO YOU REALIZE YOU MADE 0 (ZERO) SHOTS ON TARGET IN 2 (TWO) MATCHES?

YOU'RE GOING HOME

t. robert jones

Kys please. Yes OUTSIDE the actual field you euros know how to bring on that aggression but on the pitch? Fuck no

>benefits from a lucky no-call
>talks shit
lmao

He's right though. Sweden was close to score a goal in first half, sadly S. Larsson missed. Sweden played really well and deserved one point. On the other hand Ireland deserved three points last game so I guess it evens out. Italy has to do a lot better if they want to beat Spain.

>Yfw the three players from Halal in that pic were memed into the team by the media, and any rational coach in any other country would had played without Lolonso and Pajillas

Teams are playing cagey as fuck football because the new format lends itself to it.

I think we have already agreed that 24 is a mistake (except some minnows that think participating in a Euro is something exceptional)

>Italy-Sweden
Long pass from defense -- intercepted
Long pass from defense -- intercepted
Long pass from defense -- intercepted
Long pass from defense -- intercepted
Suddenly a goal

The problem with this format is that most of the teams end up going through to the knockout stages. This means that a draw will probably a make you qualify. What they should have done is expand it to 20 teams, 4 groups of 5. The top 2 qualify.

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