You guys do now that porn is actually destroying you, right? Like literally, fucking you up on a biochemical level.
When watching porn, your brains dopamine levels fucking sky rocket, which is why it feels good.
>how the fuck is that bad you fucking faggot?
Well, when our brains constantly and frequently experiences such extremely high, unnatural stimulus of Dopa, it releases a protein called DeltaFosB, which basically makes your dopamine receptors less and less sensitive and functional, so you wont fucking OD on your own dopamine.
>so what faggot????
Thats how addiction works, you then need more and more, increasingly extreme porn, just to get the same "high" as when you saw your first tits as a 10 year old. Remember those times, you could jerk off to a pic of a butt, not even naked. What do you need to get off now, m8?
And oh yeah, Pron induced ED. Are you one of the guys who can no problemo get hard with porn, but without, youre a fucking limp faggot?
Just quit it, it negatively impacts a lot of other areas.
I'll be sure to just tell myself to cut it out next time I have the urge to gamble.
With my track record I should be able to test the theory in an hour or two.
Dylan Kelly
>Thank you, Mr born-again scientist
James Lee
Neither can I after 5 years of this website
Anthony Reyes
Ok, you persuaded me, I'm gonna stop watching porn every day and start havin sex everyday instead. That should drop my Dopa down pretty quick
Juan Price
Good luck buddy. Maybe this time you won't be such a loser and you'll actually win some money you worthless fuck.
Camden Sanders
yes, what the fuck else? thats how you get rid of addiction. Porn taps into the primal sexual urges, you cant just "cut down" your consumption with success, unfortunately, you gotta go cold turkey.
Also, most people addicted to porn, go into a flatline phase, wheer they have no sex drive at all. Because all that fucking porn watching wasnt sex drive, it was PORN cravings.
Well, then its not porn induced, it might be clogged arteries, which is a pre sign for heart attack. Cut down your consumption of saturated fat and cholesterol.
Now here me out, i know that people in the west are fucking biased and hate vegans, but frankly, go vegan. No saturated fat and cholesterol when you go vegan.
I dont wanna force you to anything, just go vegan for a month then, and see if your dick comes back. Stay away from obvious fatty food under than month, just because its vegan doesnt mean it isnt fatty
Matthew Sullivan
Time and evolution will fix this. just stop this homie.Go find your summermoode
Dylan Morales
Jokes on you, faggot.
I watch porn all the time and I can still jerk it to a picture of a butt.
I win. You lose.
pic related.
Cooper Martin
fuck off you retard
"muh time and evolution" yeah, how fucking long? You seriously think the answer to addiction is "keep on doing it, our brains will addap through evolution"
Brandon Thompson
i dont really care if you deny this, you dont effect anyone else by fucking up yourself.
Landon Ramirez
>go vegan
Everything you've said prior to this has just been invalidated. Aside from the obvious douchefuckery involved, as a diet alone vegan is bad for you.
Jack Gutierrez
It keeps me sane, makes me think less about how lonely i am, makes me stay functional because i don't get horny all the time.
Plus my taste of porn didn't really change since when i started fapping.
I really don't see the problem.
Dylan Butler
>go vegan.
Yeah, this thread is now about pictures of butts.
Jaxson Perez
Trying to quit porn for 1,5 years. After only 15 days the life is fucking better. I managed to stop porn for 90 days straight then failed again. Too hard to stop
Colton Phillips
But the dopamin shit you are talking about is all around us. Our consumption in general is motivated by our dopamin. You attack 1 angle of this. Porn. Makes me think you have are a moralist. >God don't want you to masturbate
Fuck off homie. Masturbation and porn is a minor problem in our society compared to the debt people put them self in to buy shit they dont need.
Kevin Wilson
gif ok?
Zachary Morris
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Sebastian Gutierrez
oh, all this is invalidated? ook, sure. Vegan is bad for you? No its not youtube.com/watch?v=d0IhZ-R1O8g retard. Oh, so what if im a fucking douchebag? If you cant see beside that and look at the content, youre a fucking kid. In your case, porn is like alcohol. Many drink alcohol to forget about their condition, so they can keep living in it, instead of facing how much it sucks.
Dylan Gonzalez
R34 ok?
Jose Gutierrez
So this is why I'm fucking squirrels now, is it ?
Logan Morales
Maybe you should feel lonely and hornet so you are compelled to find people
Owen Cook
Yes it is, but very fucking little is as extreme as industrialized high quality porn
Jason Scott
I'm guessing it's a woman. Women hate porn because it decreases their value.
Also it said it was vegan.
Isaiah Ramirez
I can get hard to a pair of shorts after years of fapping....where did u find this op?
Logan Cruz
Guess I better stop eating or petting dogs too. Every positive response provides us dopamine, if I'm jerking off, eating candy, playing a game, playing fetch, listening to music, or anything else enjoyable, I'm getting dopamine.
You're argument is ignorant and short sighted.
Hudson Ward
>so they can keep living in it, instead of facing how much it sucks My main problem is with that is that i think that biological urges suck because they're not logical. I didn't decide that i currently want to spend a large portion of my time to chase after random chicks for a slight chance of getting my dick wet.
Science > chicks.
Kayden Long
"muh vegan is for pussies"
Porn is fucking up your brain on a chemical level.
Nothing new in the way you react though, men in the west react the same to veganism and porn, like religious people do to non believers.
Also, you are addicted to it, so of course youll react irrationally
Jaxson Edwards
>im dumb thats coo
Lincoln Scott
Any butts will do.
Charles Morgan
Have you met our economic system? all you are doing is derailing, just as porn, people from real issues. You are as much a problem as porn are
Lincoln Adams
I am a 30 year old foreveralone permavirgin who has never had a girlfriend.
porn is the closest thing i can get.
considering that i'll kill myself long before i hit 40, i really don't care about what porn does to me.
but interesting, nonetheless
Angel Taylor
It's not just for pussies, it's physically bad for you.
Drop the "in the west" bullshit, loser. Everyone knows you're from some Podunk town in Nowhere America.
Adrian Morgan
fuck, go up and read
yes, positive things release dopamine, BUT WHEN ITS AS EXTREME AS INDUSTRIALIZED PORN, IT LEADS TO ADDICTION.
"muh, why should i stop doing heroin? Everything good releases dopamine!!"
Not the same extremity.
biological urges are logical. How is it illogical for someone wanting to fuck?
How can something created by our own body be called "unnatural"
Connor Brooks
how is it illogical that people wanna masturbate? I'm pretty sure it counts as an biological urge
Evan Reed
Cheers for the picture op
Nathan Morgan
No its not, come with your arguments, why is it physically bad for me?
im not american, are you guys here actually retarded? you seriously claim to know wheer im am?
why is vegan bad for you
Gavin Martin
i never said jerking off is bad, i never said porn is illogical, i said its bad.
Wathcing thousands of women and jerking off to pixels is unnatural, thats what i meant.
you fucking retard, ITS NOT AS EXTREME
Joshua Gomez
The amount of people addicted to porn is practically none. Most people just use it as a sex substitute. Maybe read something not writen by a cult leader about human sexuality.
Maybe you should stop eating plants or drinking watet, I think youre addicted. You should try and go at least 5 days without food or water, the addiction is killing you.
Carter Bailey
There isn't a chance in hell that you are a day over 20, so stop posturing.
Yes vegetables are good for you, moron. Eating nothing but vegetables however is bad for you. Not as bad as eating nothing but processed food, granted, but still worse than eating a balanced diet. Much worse.
Incorporate meat into your diet. How about you start with a bag of dicks?
Camden Flores
>How is it illogical for someone wanting to fuck? If you use a condom you don't get children - so what's left? Oh right - dopamine - the same dopamine that comes from fapping. So how would someone logically defend spending hundres of hours and much money for something you can have for free without all the bullshit?
Carson Morgan
"practically none"
nope, thats not true.
yes, most people use it like that. So what, heroin addiction isnt widespread either. Well, it kind of is though, but thats another story.
Oh really, youre saying youll die if you stop watching porn? Cause i dont think you know how analogies work.
its funny how you guys react like this to porn, but with other addictions, completely other reaction
Connor Torres
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Juan Young
That's why every vegan is a scrawny weak guy who gets cucked by his wife.
Tell your wife's black kid that I said "happy birfday son." But make sure he knows I ain't coming to see him or shit.
Owen Jackson
I'm not here to teach you how not to be a fucking retard. It's not worth the effort and you seem to revel in your stupidity.
Google "vegan is bad for you" and read a bit if you are truly interested.
Juan Carter
>effect Affect, you tedious cunt.
Kayden Reyes
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Carter Miller
This
Kayden Smith
"hundreds of hours and money"
lol, its simply sad if you need to substitute your shit personality with material goods to get in contact with women.
Your dopamine receptors dont get fried from sex, weird i know, but it doesnt.
I never said im over 20.
Eating nothing but vegetables? i eat fruit and starches too you fucking retard. You still dont come with any arguments. all you say is bassically "muh, its bad"
Jack Long
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Angel Morris
Jerking off and blowing loads to porn is God's gift to men, and faggots like the OP want to squander it with their delusions.
Enjoy porn and being a pervert.
Alexander Long
>I never said I was over 20 HAHAHA
MODS
please get rid of this 13 year old vegan who wants us to stop looking at porn because his single mother couldn't be fucked to give him "the talk"
Mason Gray
How the fuck is sex dopamine and fap dopamine any different? You're getting off for the same reason. Say I wanna fuck a girl with a fat ass and i do and I cum in like 10 minutes. What's the difference between that and fapping to a girl with a fat ass?
Charles Turner
yeah, of course, vegans are weak. because we only eat plants, and muh proteins. im not even gonna refute cultural dogma like this.
nice cup out. Still not an argument, youre wasting your time on Sup Forums and yet not worth the time, sure. and typing on a keyboard is effort to you?
big deal
Michael Price
but all protein in the world comes from plants when you trace it back
Tyler Jones
It's less like an addiction and more like a tolerance, after a few days it feels like new again.
Gabriel Baker
What if you have really freaky sex? Like isnt it the same thing that happens. You get sexually more weird with your aging and the more experience you have.
I mean, ever since i peed on a girl at the age of 17, i have never been the same sexually. I need fingers and my dick in the cunt. I need to see shes hurting and pleasured at the same time.
So i can't have experiemental and freaky sex? Cause all of the sudden i dont enjoy the missionary position.
dude, i need to know how old you are, cause you really don't sound that old. Even with your fancy words and styff
Bentley Davis
>lol, its simply sad if you need to substitute your shit personality with material goods to get in contact with women. Nice ad hominem you got there m8 :^) >Your dopamine receptors dont get fried from sex, weird i know, but it doesnt. Same should apply for fapping? Or is fapping much more pleasurable then fucking? Please explain what you're implying there.
Mason Baker
i dont know, all i know are the facts, that sex doesnt lead to decreased dopamine sensitivity as porn does. Fuck, you retard think im talking about fapping, im talking about PORN you retarded morons.
you gotta be 18 you dumb fuck, holy shit.
Also, just because i know for a fact that the vegan lifestyle is superior, doesnt mean im vegan. Im not, i dont have the opportunity to be it, my parents are ignorant retards like you guys.
Ayden Davis
But not vitamin b12
Jayden Williams
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Joshua Nelson
Right, I normally only lurk, but I have to second that. Have been off porn for 1.5 w , normally I jerk off every day or two since 13y, now 25. I have more energy, feel more alive, and addiction free for some reason and have morning wood, which i haven't in years. take it for what you wish, but at least try so you can see for yourself
Jayden Gomez
Seriously kid, every one of your arguments have been claiming the other side is saying "muh (x)" and yet you claim no one refuted your arguments. Gb2tumbr or make a factual, logical, backed up, peer reviewed or common knowledge statement instead of something your yogi told you in (as you would put it) "muh spiritual lifestyle"
Lucas Brooks
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James Bailey
people arent into freaky sex naturally. believe it or that, thats usually people trying to live out their porn induced fantasies.
its true.
i know. Thats why i dont fucking get how people can say youre weak without proteins
Yes, same for fapping, its the fucking porn messing you up.
Julian Anderson
vitamin b12 is found in water and soil. but because of modern agriculture and because water is treated we dont get b12 like that.
actually humans do have bacteria in their bodies which make b12 but thats not enough.
so people eat meat for b12 except the animals they are eating are fed b12 supplements for the same reasons i said before. so your better off just eating b12 supplement. you will get better doses without satured fat and cholesterol
Mason Kelly
I knew a girl who never watched porn but was into some freaky shit. What caused that? Just watching her parents fuck?
Wyatt Wood
thank you, finally a sane person
Josiah James
>people arent into freaky sex naturally. believe it or that, thats usually people trying to live out their porn induced fantasies Op confirmed faggot
Isaiah Edwards
No one cares you silly stupid man. Come back with real arguments. But you'll still be a faggot
Oliver Torres
I'm with you OP. You won't get through to these people, they're too thick and hopeless
Zachary Bell
nah op your stupid only good point you have is to go vegan. fapping helps people get rid of stress
Zachary Ward
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Josiah Hernandez
The first sexual experience shapes a person for the rest of their life. She might have stumbled upon some weird form of masturbation at a very young age and experimented heavily till she found out about 'normal' masturbation.
Austin Howard
Weak willed addicts detected
Jacob Martin
OP is an anti-porn vegan why should we even talk to him
just ate delicious tikka chicken in a restaurant and gonna lurk gif for porn before seeing my gf
Aiden Murphy
for fucks sake, ok, you are fucking retarded too.
How many times am i going to say this??? ITS PORN not fapping, but PORN thats fucking you up, you dumb fucking idiots.
i know
Im the only one with arguments here.
why am i a faggot now?
Wyatt Smith
Or maybe not all people are into the same things as you?
Austin King
but how can i fap without porn, i need visual stimulation
Eli Murphy
>people arent into freaky sex naturally. believe it or that, thats usually people trying to live out their porn induced fantasies.
And you based that on your own experiences on the virtuel world? Many of my fantasies have been created on drugs or alkohol while have sex and then i started to find the porn i needed to satisfy that.
>Good ol' Chicken and the Egg debate
But how did people come up with sexual destryoing porn, when there was no porn to teach them freaky sex? They naturally had thoose thought :O :O :O :O Shiit homie you realize this ?
Asher Thompson
Are you stupid for a living? Our bodies create what we call non essential proteins, not because we don't need them, but that we don't need to get them from food. We only need to get the essential ones from food, all at the same time, mind you. seeing as plants have incomplete proteins you have to match them up just right which is why most vegans are skinny wimps (they suck at pairing food). I'm a chef, took years of nutrition classes, end results always show vegans have the least healthy eating habits and forcing a child to go vegan can result in very negative effects. Multiple kids have died over it.
Jack Green
because it's fun to argue with retards on Sup Forums
Isaiah Jones
vegan is factually better.
Im not anti porn, im anti addiction. Are you anti alcohol if you dont want people to be alcoholics? Retard logic 101
Tyler Cruz
Because you're so fucking preachy. If someone's into something you aren't there's something wrong with them.
Liam Peterson
Well, masturbation helps lower blood pressure m8. Its a good thing to do.
Jose Miller
Well, you could always just combine them. When even the most extreme porn is not enough, you can start eating candy while watching porn. And once you burned through that too, you can start petting dogs while watching porn and eating candy.
Kevin Sanchez
well if you eat only one food of course you are not going to have enough of certain amino acids. thats just being dumb not because you are vegan. almost everyone eats different foods so they are fine.
and the reason you don't see lots of muscle head vegans is because they are about only 1% of the population and an even smaller amount of them are people who work out.
also your body can only produce those proteins because of the essential proteins which it is getting from plants.
Isaac Sanchez
But biologically speaking humans should have mostly identical taste in a partner. We have two factors that limit this: Genetics (but we know relatively little about this - just that some trans people are actually genetically fucked up) and culture. Culture includes mostly parental behaviour and some own experience. It's way more intresting to understand why people are different then to just accept it. Imagine you had the chance to fix your childs mental disorder before birth - would be nice - right?
Lucas Price
not being able to fap without porn, is a sign that something is fucking wrong with you. You really think that human beings naturally cANT jerk off without porn? Are your fucking nerve endings in your dick dead without visuals or something?
On reality.
Youre dumb too, huh? People got used to regular shit, porn tried more extreme porn, it sold, the cycle goes on.
Think for yourself next time.
We dont need protein from meat, breat milk is 5% protein, and that was more than enough for the fastest growing we do in our life. If we really needed protein that much, we would have protein receptors on our tounges like many animals
Grayson Powell
porn isn't addictive for regular people your argument is invalid
everything is addictive for beta/fag porn meat sex in general video games sugar gambling everything
what is discipline ? eating meat and watching porn are first world problem you vegan cuck
Charles Miller
so you're saying "go vegan" and "quit porn" and your dick comes back? is masturbating without porn an option?
Ryan King
No you don't, this is bait you stupid niggerfaggot
Owen Ortiz
Righto boys I propose you all try something. Try to quit porn for 7 days to start with, see how you feel.
Best case scenario is it will make you more energetic and less brain fog plus you will have a higher chance of getting a girl (tried and true)
Worst case scenario is it did nothing but you've got a massive load to blow so it will feel good AF.
Just test it for fucks sake. I don't agree with all the points Nofap raises but I can say from experience that it does passively improve you. Or don't do it, bash it and keep throwing BS arguments either way. If its too hard for you then there's definitely an underlying issue..