How did the middle east go from the cradle of civilization and the center of wealth and culture for most of human...

How did the middle east go from the cradle of civilization and the center of wealth and culture for most of human history to this?

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Sykes and Picot

Fucking europeans.

Should have known. Is there anything they HAVENT fucked up?

Russia

Same way Europe fell into the dark ages.
The fall of progressive civilisations and subsequent takeover by warmongers.

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look like Berlin after being fully cradle of aryan reich really make you think.

Hmmmmm this post really sizzled my steaks

Islam.

No

>blaming a treaty that was never enacted

Why do people fall for daesh memes? You could at least blame Sevres and Lausanne.

USA Europe Cold War and shit

yes

no

yes

no

yes

maybe, maybe not. both sides have equally valid points. Certainly a topic worth debating. Don't draw premature conclusions. /thread

no

jews happened

yeah but they literally yell allahuackbar 10 times every time theyre about to blow something up

not an argument and you know it

Islam

its just because its old imo. we've lived there longer than anywhere else on the planet (inb4 africa, that was civilization).

basically they can't get away from history, most ethnic groups escaped and rebuilt themselves at least once, whereas these fucks neve left.

its like when you farm a piece of land, if you move the farm every few years you can come back to the original plot and the soil will be fine, but if you farm the same patch forever it'll eventually go to shit and nothing will grow.

Islam

is the whole existence of isis not an arguement?

yeah isis exists because islam created it

The so-called Islamic State is neither Islamic nor a state

I love Sup Forums

Oil and islam

>chink claims to know more about Islam than a guy with a Ph.D in Islamic studies
loving
every
laugh

fairly sure it wouldn't be there if islam didnt exist fäms

I a complex series of events, spanning countless empires, cultures, religions, ideologies over thousands of years.

Instead of searching for a one sentence explanation, read about it.
Start with Herodotus I guess...

Islam, arabs and inbreeding.

>westerners

yes it would but with a different context. As long as the Middle East is a geopolitical place with tons of resources without a strong government they will be prone to chaos and manipulation from Global Powers, just like Latin America and every non aligned countries

>wudda cudda shudda

Explain why 70,000 Muslim imams denounced ISIS then.

meme.

Sykes picot divided the region along already long established lines.


The problem is the region is run by arabs for the first time in a millenia. With all the anti intellectual tribalistic baggage that brings.

keep on m8, I know it's difficult to think apart from memes and over simplifying things as just being inferior and shit

Mongols
Islam
No middle-class
Political ossification
Tribalism
Too much oil, not enough brains behind what to do with it

Because religion is not an empirical science.

Islam, clearly.

so isis couldnt fuck up everyone elses chance to move to europe and have 12 children and take over the continent in 100 years

afterall that is the main point of the quaran, no?
to convert all the infidels?

because "NO, IM THE ISLAMEST" is actually a thing for muslims

>canada higher than USA

Oh baby

the US
that was easy

>mongols

They haven't been a thing in almost a thousand years. They aren't a problem

70,000 out of >1bn

This, case in point here

Taaqiah

1. Invasion by turkroaches
2. Tribal mentality
3. Religion that didn't go along with the development of the society
4. Europeans leaving
5. Arab leaders trying to maintain borders that were meant for something entirely different

Qatar is pretty smart with it

Not an argument

In the middle east, Imams are government shills.

Priests everywhere except America are government shills

>literally every major scholar, from wahabi to sufi, has condemned ISIS and said they aren't Islamic
>b-b-but one guy with a PhD, who also happens to be the leader of the movement, says so, so it must be true

>except America

He actually believe this

the imams were from all ideological backgrounds

The Crusades haven't brought out as enthusiastic an arrangement of priests and bishops in apology.

religion itself isnt, but religious expression is

Yeah. There is no official religion in the U.S.

>official

Because things aren't static and history is changing all the fucking time?

And the reality is the middle east was full of constant war, murder and conquest and ancient time too. These "cradles of civilizations" fought bloody after bloody battle with one another. Yet people think of the middle east as some ancient pacifist utopia that was suddenly ruined in the 20th century

Thats correct the U.S. doesn't give money to any religion.

we're christian, bruh. it might not be "official" but we are. its all over our currency, in our pledge, every president ever has claimed it, and 70% of our country follows it in some way.

Mongols

That's because up until recently they were under empires that would crack their skulls if they chimped out.

>every president ever has claimed it
Not at all true.
Keep on believing that, I can't stop you.

The Mongols left 700 years ago

literally not an argument

white people

See you don't understand what i mean because there is no offical religion here. In the u.k there is an official religion called Anglican. The head of it is the monarch of the u.k and it gets official government funding. There it's nothing like that here

What are the Turks

only 3 (lincoln, hayes, and johnson) didn't claim to be christian. and they certainly didn't oppose it either.

>Ottomans weren't Muslim
American education strikes again

you can thank obongo for that

You can make the argument that they never truly recovered.

beautiful number

islam happened

But why would you? It's a shit argument.

Why do muslims lie so much

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German. if they dont kill kikes. the ov vey plan didnt happen

>There is no official religion in the U.S

Yes and ?

If there is no religion in the state it simply that atheism is the official religion and that priests are the slaves of the gov, this is also why america has pro gay priests.

Wow this is retarded

Read the bible, the middle east was always genocide after genocide.