Hey Sup Forums i don't like transgenders and i usually get in arguments trying to prove that transgenders are mentially...

Hey Sup Forums i don't like transgenders and i usually get in arguments trying to prove that transgenders are mentially ill. But i can't explain why.

So how can i explain to someone that transgenders are mentially ill, to shut them up

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inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/27/being-transgender-no-longer-a-mental-disorder-in-diagnostic-manual/
theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
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Try avoiding idiotic arguments that will lead nowhere, enjoy life without the hassle of moronic behavior.

You can't prove it because it's not true, they aren't mentally ill.

Simple fact is, there's some men that are feminine and some women that are masculine, and they push that too far and go for sex changes and shit, just tell them to be themselves and stop being something that wasn't.

It is something that is hip right now and kids these day just follow whatever trend comes up.
Some are mentally ill but most are attention seeking faggots.

No i don't think so sorry

>I like to argue without any facts
Well, maybe you should just shut the fuck up then? Or become an hero. Or both.

Nice trips
My opinion is and i know apparently it isnt related but. If you're born male stick with it. vice versa

The funny thing is, it's this new gender thing that is the actual social construct, it is a mental illness and characterized as such which is why they almost always have other mental disorders with it.

the type of people you're arguing with most likely dont give a shit how good a point you make, because if they want to be a part of the whole "im a better person than you because im tolerant of fucking weirdos" they'd have to always agree that transgender people are always better than everybody else, n shit like that

My reasoning is that if you're born male and or female. Then thats who you are, i know gender is who you identify as but biologically you're either a Male or Female.

They aren't hurting you so what's your problem? Do you have to prove yourself superior?

Oh look, ignorant cocks on my Sup Forums.

inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/27/being-transgender-no-longer-a-mental-disorder-in-diagnostic-manual/

It has nothing to do with superiority

Except the gender identity thing is the false pretense that you have to act this way or that way and therefore you are something you are not because of it, it's a false belief that males or females must act a certain way.

not your personal salami

when will jnig just give up and do porn

Did you not see why they did that? It literally says to not hurt their feelings essentially, it's still a disorder and just because they changed the name doesn't change that.

Ignore the issue and rest assured in the fact that they are unable to reproduce. There are too many crazies out there fucking like rabbits... those are the ones you need to worry about.

They are not mentally ill.
Because people that are mentally ill can get cured.
Now a transgender is born this way by the a fault in the growth of the fetus, The body is grown as a male but the brain is grown as female because of female hormones, this could even happen to the body where certain people have both genitals or partially have both genitals for example a dick, one testicle, and an uterus with one ovary.
tl;dr hormone failure at growth of the fetus

Transgendered people are just edgy kids looking for attention. Nothing more.

You're completely wrong on mental disorders getting cured, there's hardly any that can be, they only deal with coping... What the fuck?

I really dont care about it. It doesnt affect me.

mental disorders =/= mental illness

Show them your driver's license to prove that you are over 15.

They are not mentally ill.
There are different forms of gender from strong masculine to strong female, mixed male female, weak masculine females, weak feminine males, and just about every shade of grey in between.

Being unable to grok this simple concept suggests maybe you're the one who's mentally ill

No OP is just ignorant or retarded, no need to bring the disordered and ill to his level.

/thread

I'm thinking probably downs

>implying transgendered haven't been around since forever
Chinese court jesters, Joan of arc, Pantomime tradition...1000's of historical examples of transgendered figures from history

>unintelligent retard
>doesn't understand
>must be some new hip kids thing

Retard much, retard?

Yeah that "pushing it too far" part. That's the mental illness.

I know right?!

Imagine taking advantage of new medical innovations in order to improve the quality of life of previously humiliated and shunned individuals who do not conform to a arbitrary binary stereotype.

It's 'too far'!

tranny spotted

Straight white cis male aged 18-35

I'm just not fucking retarded and understand what gender is

Homeschooled confirmed

Science and biology prove they are mentally ill.

Are assholes designed to be penetrated? Can 2 faggots have a baby by fucking each other in the ass?

No? Then it's not normal and goes against our design. And pursuing something that counters what you were mean to do is signs of mental illness.

This is literally how it's supposed to be

>science
>biology

So a baby born with both a penis and a vagina... What gender are they?

So... Paying taxes is a mental illness?

This

keked twice.

If assholes aren't designed to be penetrated...why is the make g-spot 2inches up their ass?

All of this

Some of thrm that do the proper hormone treatments and counseling feel different about it afterwards, the reason those are required is that there are some that want it only due to a hormone imbalance. Once they straighten up their hormones, they don't want it anymore.

Hermaphrodite

And which bathroom do they use?

Which gender are they 'supposed' to be attracted to?

In fact, you've just acknowledged a 3rd gender.
>paradigm shifted

Trannies reinforce gender stereotypes and roles when 95%+ of all them act like a caricature from the other gender
>mtf all wear frilly dresses, buckets of makeup and act super effeminate
>ftm wear dungarees, grow facial hair, try to deepen their voice and spend time in the gym

Suicide rates are over 30%. This is considerably higher than any other marginalised group. Even after SRS, these rates do not decrease pretty much confirming that the suicidal tendencies are a symptom of the disorder. Unless someone wants to argue that suicidal tendencies aren't a mental disorder?

Professionals and psychiatrists don't recommend it. The only people who advocate it are lgbt'ers and the surgeons/doctors/hospitals who profit shitloads off the surgery and hormone replacements. But that's probably a coincidence right?

100% of transgenders are narcissists. Transgenderism is sexist and problematic for homosexuals due to the first point. Essentially homosexuality can be explained as non-existent if people are whatever gender they choose. Because it's a choice, it also undermines the l,g and b of lgbt who can't choose their sexual attraction.
It's sexist for reinforcing the gender stereotypes

And any guy who masturrbates to/fucks someone with a penis has homosexual urges

They arent mentally ill. They are biologically ill
Most trangenderism is because of some hormonal problems or brain bad-development
But,well,you have a point. Just because they have some tendencies for transgenderism, that doesnt mean they will be transgender in the future. Lots of transformations happen because of social acceptance of such an illness & stimulus for womanish things when someone is young,for example
So,basically,you can argue that just because someone has a tendency for something,it doesnt mean it is right or natural,as feminized man always existed and most never turned to the other gender. The desire of turning into the other gender is an extreme measure, wich is the sign of,indeed,an illness

In regards to sexism

Suicidal tendencies are more likely a result of harassment and social exclusion, you complete retard, rather than anything at all to do with a predisposition from gender confused individuals

Did you miss the part where no other maginalised group has rates near that high?
You're a biased dipshit ignoring all evidence that contradicts your feelings

>to shut them up
>they won't shut up

There is your proof.

>100% are narcicists

Of course, you haven't done any research to come up with this figure, nor can you cite any peer reviewed literature which confirms it

Get the fuck out, retarded cunt-shower

>shit everything he's saying blows my snowflake disorder the fuck out
>wait, here's one statistic that's just an ad hominem
>maybe if i ignore the argument and just focus on this, it will seem like im responding to the whole post

I would tell you to kill yourself but you'll do that anyway so there's no point

>we tumblr now

Trying so hard to prove something is mental illness.

Not realizing they are making a fallacy statement resembling climate change denial.

Fucking failtrolls.

30% seems likely.
Almost seems like suicide attempts are used by narcissists for attent...... wait.

Im not trolling

Evidence of said disparity?

So far you have none

What if you could prove it? What if some user handed you the undeniable evidence that you are right? What would that gain you?

red pill

Here's the thing, some people could improve their lives living as a hot tranny, such as Bailey Jay. When you look like her, is it mentally ill to take advantage of all the perks of being desirable?

That said, just like when you bought that fedora thinking it would look good, I'm sure a lot of trannies thought they would look better then they end up looking. Enough therapists are too excited to make people transition that the majority can and should be dismissed as mentally ill, however, you could still transition and be sane.

>fallacious figure reinforces their own bias
>must be true
>no evidence to support it

Best just shit on the opposing, rationlist view point, otherwise you might look retarded

You want evidence of a negative?
Way to go full retard

Here's an article with scientific research showing that SRS is a terrible idea
theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
>There is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals, with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation, according to a medical review conducted exclusively for Guardian Weekend tomorrow.

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No, I wanted evidence of a 30% disparity between suicide rates of marginalised groups, like you claimed there were

Nice try changing the subject...didn't work though

Not to mention your body completely rejects the surgery, it tries to continue to heal itself.
Gender is based on DNA not what your feeling because it's Sunday.

>ITT: trannies and tumblrinas are surprised Sup Forums doesn't give a shit about pandering to a mental disorder

You mad? That higher suicide rates enforce an attention seeking viewpoint? That maybe they want to do it so they feel like they are the world's only special snowflake? That after the change they realize that they aren't anymore special as before and they kill themselves after realizing they didn't win extra attention? Cry more.

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Nothing at all to do with hormones then?

Why is it always the retards who know the least, that speak the most?

>I'm just not fucking retarded and understand what gender is
clearly you don't fam lol

You're implying that you know our intended design, that others know are intended design, and any action to the contrary is an affront to our "purpose"

Yeah go back to church you greasy fuck you might as well be Mormon

they don't get to use the bathroom, they go outside like the rest of the degenerate animals and Indians on this planet

I wouldn't say transitioning is a mental illness, I would say that the people that transition are almost exclusively mentally ill.

Not mad, newfriend, you just haven't provided any evidence to support your view, despite multiple requests.

You've failed to prove your point and now resort to ad hominem attacks.

I think that means I've won the argument

I didn't say a 30% disparity
Illiterate and mentally unstable, not a good combination for you

Trannies have a suicide rate of over 30% before and after SRS with virtually no change as mentioned in the article you ignored
No other group has rates near this high

I can't provide proof of a negative. So if you want to disagree, the burden of proof is on you to find a marginalised group with rates near that
protip: you cant

now fuck off

>I know you are but what am I?

Nice argument technique bra

We're all mentally ill. Their illness is different from yours, but you're no bastion of sanity either. You're on /b aren't you? That alone could get you committed to an institution for years.

If I were the original poster, which I'm not, I just enjoy rustling your jimmies whether I make a point or not. Your anger and offense make me happy, subperson.

this

It seems like you're shying away from the original point by criticizing unnecessary menutia.

Maybe go back a step. Before the 30% thing. Where you generalized everyone's reason for suicide

>I didn't say that
>Suicide rates are over 30%. This is considerably higher than any other marginalised group

Ok, just any peer reviewed literature that could support this figure

If it's so obviously true, why is it so difficult for you to back up the claim with hard science?

>lol I trol u
>only pretending to not understand

honestly OP, stop sucking dicks and go read a fucking book. dont beg the internet for a quick answer so u can blast some tumblrina in class that shit on u in an argument. if u read books and filled ur head with knowledge instead of memorizing factoids so u can statistics someone down, you wouldnt lose easy to win arguments in the first place.

I get it you don't understand biology it's cool.
Hormones don't fucking determine what gender you are.
It's really this simple:

If you are born with a dick and balls and have the ability to produce sperm congratulations you're a boy.

If you're a girl and have menstrual cycles a uterus, vagina boobs and brain filled with crazy then congratulations you're a girl.

I almost view this like those people who want to get all their limbs amputated because fuck all

Consider the following
>I'm the only one here with unrustled jimmies

nice conclusion cuck

you have xy chromosomes, you're male, you have xx you're female, you have extras you're a potato. doesn't get simpler, prove me wrong

Our mental illness doesn't result in non health related, unnecessary surgical amputation that you might regret, and then you're sitting in a recliner at 28 with no penis screaming in agony on the inside in some sort of Kafkaesq nightmare

>already linked the article from the guardian with sources provided
I can lead a horse to water. But I can't make it drink. And I can laugh when said horse then asks why I won't give it any water

You're the horse by the way

I understand what you mean, but where do you start?

He posted that article? Is it not hard enough?

Yours are by far the most rustled, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing over a 30% "disparity" they never mentioned due to your brain too full of snowflake mindset to absorb reading comprehension in school.

>I have an opinion but I have no information at all to back it up!
kill yourself. people like you are why republicans are taken seriously.

Only men can grow boobs if given female hormones.

>nothing to do with hormones
>nothing to do with
>nothing to do
>nothing

Ha

There is no such thing as a sex change operation. It is a purely cosmetic alteration (mutilation) of genitalia. The person will not be able to fully function in the role of the other sex reproductively, and will require hormone treatment to maintain the facade. That's insane. And all these message we grow up with, "be comfortable in your body" crap. It's confusion in a Biblical sense.

U must be transgender

hormones just change the build order in the body, doesn't change your gender

Did you actually read the sources they attributed?

It's typical sensationalist science.
Actually READ the sources, they claim nothing of the sort.

Then you're going to lecture me about reading?!
Top kek bra, top. fucking. Kek

>derping this hard