I need legitimate, empirical reasons showing Bernie Sanders to be the psychotic, politically-ungrounded, crazy old man that he is.
And no, I don't want to hear a word of "Donald Trump" or "Hillary Clinton". There's plenty of threads about them praising and/or bashing them, this is about Bernie Sanders and why he himself is not fit for a presidential run.
>inb4 betas and college sjws crying about muh socialism
I'd tell you to get a job, but honestly you should get some work ethics first.
He is sane.
he finally got a job, senator
because "free tuition" isn't a fiscally logical plan at all. Where is all the money going to come from to pay staff and fund programs?
Secondly, he clearly stated that all white people should be forced to live in poverty so they can experience what it is like for everyone who isn't white.
Obvious white-guilting jew cuck is obvious.
Oh, and for the record, the largest percentage of welfare recipients are actually..
yep..
caucasian.
Take it from me: Marxism = mysticism
Considering there are many times more white americans than black americans, I don't find that surprising.
Do you know what public school is? We already have that k-12. What difference will another 4 years make? Providing they educate themselves with shit that matters, not some faggot art degree or some shit.
He never stated white people should be forced to live in poverty, although a good percentage of us already are.
As for whites being larger welfare recipients, there is more of us than any other ethnicity. The percentage of whites on welfare overall is still smaller than the percentage of non-whites in there respective pools. Dumbass.
you really should stop confusing bernie and trump. they look nothing alike.
*their
Because of you fucking autists.
Largest percentage? Sure, but they're a grand majority of all U.S. citizens.
Bernie is fine, capitalism isn't if you think about it for yourself and not just accept other people's opinions like that
>mfw i actually enjoyed the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction
>Income inequality
The reality is that the upper class keeps getting larger and larger. As well, it is not just the 1% becoming wealthier, everyone is becoming wealthier.
>College tuition free
The reality is that America has the best universities in the world, and one of the things driving up our prices is the influx of foreign students looking to study in America. The same thing happens in the UK. Making it free will not make things better, it will simply reduce the quality of our universities.
>Bring jobs back onshore
Before addressing the fallacy here, I will explain why he wouldn't even do this. Most factory jobs are low-skill jobs and do not require a university degree. Sending people to university will make them overqualified for manufacturing jobs, and they will feel entitled to office jobs or whatever bullshit they want. If you want to bring jobs back onshore, you have to fight the university-obsessed culture, not send more people there for no reason.
This is a fallacy anyways. If jobs are relocating overseas, it is because it is cheaper to produce there and then ship products here. This may put some people out of jobs, but it actually makes most Americans richer, as it allows them to buy the same goods for cheaper prices. Only a handful of Americans suffer when GM leaves for Mexico, but most Americans can now get cheaper cars.
As well, all economic evidence shows that the problem is not that we cannot compete with low-wage Chinese jobs, but that our tax system is literally retarded and taxes companies overseas, not to mention America has the highest corporate tax in the world. This not only discourages companies to create jobs here, but they also will not reinvest their earnings in America because they will face double taxation if they do.
You can even see this within the United States when in California, companies are leaving for Texas due to them having no corporate tax rate at the state level.
you need to ask Sup Forums because you don't have a reason to hate him
get out of your parents basement neckbeard and stop pretending to be an asset to society
>Secondly, he clearly stated that all white people should be forced to live in poverty so they can experience what it is like for everyone who isn't white.
He never actually said this
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>our k-12 system is trash
>lets make the higher ed publicly funded as well
Seriously?
you are not smart.
no free tuition for you!
couldnt be 3 more redundantpeople in existence particuarly if ur not hillary clinton
black male
white female
This is the most retarded shit I've seen all day, and I frequently browse /mlp/.
Good job.
>I need legitimate, empirical reasons showing Bernie Sanders to be the psychotic, politically-ungrounded, crazy old man that he is.
good luck finding what doesn't exist
This
K-12 shouldn't be funded by the feds, should be states only. Literally accomplishes nothing
Also, what "matters" to you. Someone who graduates from gender studies at Harvard probably has a better shot in business than someone with a degree in business from the university of Buttfuck, Alabama.
There is no objective way told fine "useful."
This would not eliminate need for current health plans. People would by supplemental insurance. Why the fuck do you think you see all those AARP commercials for people on Medicare?
trips confirm
>The reality is that America has the best universities in the world
Now see, I'll debate that. The shit that we are now seeing come from the educational institutions is beyond imagination. (See: Yale Students Form Mob and Berate Professor over Halloween costumes, the whole racist-white-hetero-male-patriarchy, or hell pretty much any event with Milo Yiannopolous.)
Our entire educational system is pretty fucked, but I do agree with your statements about bringing jobs back.
Oh, and nice trips
K-12 is also grossly underfunded, failing drastically, and the staff are constantly striking.
Try again.
>Missing the point this hard
Not the point at all.
The point was that he is white-guilt cucking America and trying to tell us that no white people have ever been in poverty.
These are all statements he's publicly made.
The fact that so many whites (regardless of percentage of occupancy) are on welfare is a clear indicator that this is false BS.
Get it now? Or should I dumb it down ever further?
Strong rebuttal!
Yes, he actually did. The information is out there if you want to look it up. If you don't, that's fine, too.
hurrhurr you not smart
me google infographic
me smarthurrrr
looks like we're in the same boat then, buddy ;)
oops.
k-12 comments directed at this guy
America's problems boil down to this:
>for profit hospitals
>for profit prisons
>for profit universities
Bernie wants the US to be as good a place to live in as Canada and Western Europe.
>thinks the humanities make universities
M8 get your head out of the ground. Our universities educate the greatest thinkers, innovators, and entrepreneurs in the world. Yeah the humanities need to constantly spout bullshit to be relevant, but they play such a small role they are laughably useless
Not him, and I don't entirely disagree with you, but a bunch of college kids acting like man and woman babies is not entirely outside of the norm. Having been in college pretty recently and now working at one, there is a really large activist mindset anymore. When I first started college, this was not the case. That being said though, college is adult daycare. When they're not wetting the bed or going to bed with strangers, these little shits will riot, picket, or protest anything. I know this post isn't particularly informative. I think I might be venting lol.
>for profit hospitals
This constant influx of capital ensures we have people becoming doctors, nurses, and emts. This also allows our hospitals to be cutting edge. Will everyone be treated, no. Is this morally wrong? Depends if you think the suffering of the few benefits the growth of the society.
>for profit colleges
Apply what i said about hospitals to universities. Ever wonder why a ton of foreign students come to america to learn? Even to our junior colleges? Yeah think about it.
>for profit prisons
It isnt the prison that are the problem, it is the laws that punish small and usually victimless crimes
>I need legitimate, empirical reasons showing Bernie Sanders to be the psychotic
Because you can't find any??
No matter how much you perceive the students to be retarded, the reality is that us, along with the UK, consistently dominate the list of most reputable universities in the world.
The United States has 39 universities of the top 100 and 25 of the top 50. Additionally, the UK has 7 of the top 50 and 16 of the top 100.
This means that the US and the UK make up 64% of the top 50 universities and 55% of the top 100. Shared between two countries who collectively make up slightly over 5% of the world's population.
US tuition is so expensive because of how coveted they are internationally.
>he clearly stated that all white people should be forced to live in poverty
>shit that never happened
>a bunch of college kids acting like man and woman
THAT DON'T EVEN VOTE.
>K-12 shouldn't be funded by the feds, should be states only. Literally accomplishes nothing
Yes because the Bible Belt has the funding and intelligence to educate their own
>hurr rednecks poor ands stupids
Come on man. They will do fine. Also if they didnt have to send their money to the feds, and get back less than they sent because it is based on population, i think they could fund their schools.
Oh they vote lol they typically ruin small college towns like the one I went to in rural Ohio. Property taxes become exorbitant because they vote on every levy that they come across on the ballot.
This is literally speculation.
Can't comment on Bernie's mental state, but I assume you are actually talking about Democratic Socialism anyway? That's not psychotic or politically-ungrounded, it is merely a system of government that has it's adherents and detractors, just like any other. How about we stop pretending politics is a zero sum game?
>Now see, I'll debate that.
>Proceeds to talk about vocal humanity students
That's a pretty retarded way of thinking. I went to a good private school that emphasized science and we were just km from other good colleges..had a shit ton of tech, bio, etc and hundreds of Asians transferring in. We got a lot of eurotrash that failed out and went back home even with simple humanity classes, even the fucks that speak English.
But you wouldn't learn that from browsing Sup Forums in your mom's basement.
>forgetting to add the part where everyone's taxes goes up significantly.
Agreed. I was thinking of all the great universities that aren't Harvard and Yale (or traditional Ivy League for that matter)--Johns Hopkins, Rice, Wake Forest, MIT, Cal. Tech., Case Western, Oberlin, Kenyon, Swarthmore, etc.; etc. Some of those schools probably don't even rank internationally and are still excellent schools.
>>hurr rednecks poor ands stupids
wat
>i want you to do my homework for me
fuck off
Follow the posts user. The guy i responded to implied that bible belt states are too poor and stupid to take care of their k-12 education
Americans act like taxes are some form of punishment that needs to be abolished and whine as if they were the most taxed people in history. Meanwhile, you walk headfirst into war after war, while cutting infrastructure, education and social spending. You want to "make America great again"? Start fucking putting your money where your ignorant mouth is.
if you take away their funding they are too poor you dumbfuck
>implying you'd want your taxes to raise even higher.
Don't be a hypocrite. Kill yourself, my man.
They cant raise their own funding? With state and local taxes? The fed doesnt need to be in the business of education
>rednecks poor ands stupids
did follow the convo. this still doesn't make sense. are all Christians rednecks poor or stupids?
>has no idea how america works
>hurr theys so dumb
Its what he implied lenny
He's not crazy. He doesn't actually believe most of the stuff he says.
We've seen this before. It's called "Politicians telling people what they want to hear and offering them power to enforce their will and views on others."
Do you thing Sanders doesn't really understand why student loans have higher interest rates than car loans to people with good credit scores?
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yeah, the problem is that this kind of shit damns the new students, since it's fucking impossible to start your adult life with 50k, 100k debt
>le rednecks are stupid meme
Honestly fuck off we are trying to discuss real issues here.
go to Sup Forums
it doesn't have the economy dumbfuck. how many anons need to explain this basic concept? having less money than you need = not enough money.
>inb4 another retarded comment you're going to bring up as a talking point
No it isnt. Not at all, have you had to pay back student loans? Did you know they do income based payments? That they will cut down on the size of the payments made based on how much you make, and if you pay for 20 years it goes away?
>but debt
Here is a hint: dont take out loans to live, get a part time job to help pay for bills. The people moaning about student loans are the dummies who took out loans to live on, and not just for tuition and books. Thise guys get what they have coming.
How does it not have the economy? They are small population states. They can redirect tax income from a ton of different places to support the high school of 400 people and 25 teachers, you arent thinking
Hard to have a serious discussion with dumbfucks who equate a series of states solely with rednecks because they're butthurt.
>lrn2logic
fkng leld
Bernie
I am a Muslim living in American since 20 years, I am voting Bernie!
1 - He will drop the violence by limiting and finally forbid civilian guns ownership, thats a huge plus in my book
2 - He promised us to open doors to Muslim refugees assigning them a temporary house and a job americans are to picky to do; So the rest of my family can finally came to the US
FEEL THE BERN!
>posting a creepy old fag with crazy supporters
>expecting serious replies
good luck with that lol
Says the guy who used the phrase "bible belt" you could have just said low income states, but no you had to use bible belt as a pejorative and imply that they are dumb poor rednecks. Dont get upset that people called you out on your sly jab
>opening doors to muslims
>forbids gun ownership not to be able defend yourself
nice try ahmed
Actually bernie is a supporter of the 2nd amendment, it is really his only redeeming quality
Not taking loans to live is obvious.
The thing is: education in the whole world, even in third world countries, is a universal right.
That means that: the best schools are gov funded, because a graduated person pays taxes and helps economy.
The idea of education being privatized is dumb and harms the society in a trillion ways.
BECAUSE, EMPIRICALLY SPEAKING, THERE IS NO WAY TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE "FREE STUFF" HE IS GIVING AWAY IN ORDER TO BUY VOTES.
ANY COUNTRY TRYING HIS APPROACH HAS ALWAYS RESORTED TO:
1. RATIONING OF THE FREE STUFF
2. STEALING OF THE BEST FREE STUFF BY POLITICAL BOSSES
3. PRICE FIXING
4. FOLLOWED BY BLACK MARKET
5. FOLLOWED BY TOTAL BREAKDOWN OF INFRASTRUCTURE
6. FOLLOWED BY MASS STARVATION AND CRIME
7. ACCOMPANIED BY MASS POLITICAL ENSLAVEMENT OF THE POPULATION.
8. VERY SIMILAR TO:
VENEZUELA
N KOREA
CUBA
EASTERN EUROPE
SOVIET UNION
MAOIST CHINA
ETC
ETC
ETC
No. Privatized education is a great thing because it allows the University to generate funds that can continue its search for knowledge. When a government takes over, the education system suffers because now there is a long line of bureaucrats that cut and burn funding until the University has no tools to conduct their teaching. Yes lets have our engineers learning how to build roads with half a century old equipment.
no you don't OP
you're a faggot
BECAUSE CAPS
WATCH ME SCREAM
BERNIE AND BILLARY'S PROMISES OF FREE STUFF ALWAYS END UP LIKE THIS.
>his only redeeming quality
faggot
>MY BUTT HURTS AAAGH
or it actually works like in scandinavia. Which is the reason all of Desertlandia is trying to move over here.
Just say it: NIGGER
>implying strife in their own countries isn't the reason for refugees coming there
ANOTHER EXPERIMENT IN SOCIALISM
ANOTHER FAGGOT POSTING IN ALL CAPS
why exactly scandinavia you fuckwit? they move through all of europe to get here.
Even if you tax everyone who makes $150,000+ a year by 100% (illegal) and cut defense by 100% you could need another $6,000,000,000,000 (6 Trillion) to pay for his plan.
THESE PEOPLE VOTED FOR EVEN MORE FREE STUFF
Because Scandanavia takes them in
fuckwit
say "shitskin"
come on you know you want to
really? That's like saying that capitalism always ends up with child prostitution and organ trafficking
THIS FAGGOT'S JIMMIES ARE RUSTLED HARD
Careful he's gonna respond in ALL CAPS
>I'm afraid of guns
nope, i'm just trying to refer to things so people here know what i mean. You're partially right. Sweden especially takes in a lot, but it's also due to our social system.
>I'm afraid of real democracy
>guns is the only thing that makes sense
faggot
How about y'all cunts stop toppling governments an stop pouring trillions of dollars into military
Let's make Israel great again!
we can't
we have to kill shitskins
>Hillary shills pretending not to be hillary shills in the hopes of snuffing out The Bern
kek.
How is saying bernies only redeeming quality is liking the 2nd ammendment related to being fearful of democracy?
>Thinking america is a democracy
This is why we need better education.
OP is a Trump Humper
And don't forget, Hitler was a socialist voted in to office (defeating the candidate of the German Republican party).
NAZI = acronym for National Socialist Democratic Workers party
Lots of intelligent Jewish people voted for him in 1932 based upon his promises to give away "Free Stuff"