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voting to leave here

we didnt fight 2 world wars to leave the eu

yes we did you sandnigger

We are the EU you dumb retard

>ruled by the EU

That's why we have Euros in England instead of the pound

That's why we're part of the Schengen agreement

we didnt fight two world wars to be turnips

ameriburger here. currently living in spain but from here seems to me you guys might really have a chance here. really hoping you guys leave

What did the Nazis want? A Europe controlled by Germany.

What do we have now? A Europe controlled by Germany.

WW1: englands war to leave the eu
ww2: englands war to leave eu+ hitler

The EU was formed in 1950 you fucking idiot

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thats the point. ww2 and ww1 are not closely related to leaving the eu.

We didn't fight two world wars to be ruled by the EU, we fought them to free Europe. We later joined the EU out of choice and now it looks like we are being forced to leave the EU by Farage and the millionaires bankrolling his campaign to be top cunt of Royal Britain.

THANK YOU

doesn't stop the desperate fuckers bringing it up at every opportunity

(I also apologise for calling you a fucking idiot)

I'm voting in.

If we leave then the rest of Europe will shaft us in every way possible.

there was no EU before! The US made the EU

meh. 248 billion is still too much.

you didn't fight shit, in ww2 you arrived too late to make a difference, fought in some fucking jungles in the middle of fucking nowhere and were useless for the entire time
and for dday? booh fucking whoo you attacked an already depressed, and resource deprived germany that was already at the brink of defeat because of the success of the russians on the other front.
eurofag here (balticfag at that) i know what i am talking about

Im not taking All of your money, just most of it. STOP BEING SO DRAMATIC GAAAWD

>tldr you didn't do shit, and being american faggots you masturbate while looking in the mirror and feeling proud about yourselves

I'm a britfag, you silly goose

b8

being nazi kraut myself:

please leave. we don't want you whiny and selfish bastards in the eu.

gtfo now!

Yeah thanks a lot to the American soilsers who have been pillaging in sand country's for years to protect the petrol dollar investment. If it weren't for them our country would be nigger poor like Zimbabwe or some shit. The military have been paying the iorn price for our luxuries and shit like that. Although I really hate when they call it protecting "freedom" or like they're doing me a favor. No. You're getting good bennies to help yourself while kicking someone's ass who didn't even melt the steal beams in the first place
Pic related it's my face right now

I didnt know Leave was running for the presidential election.

no were not

this
their chancellor even throws their german flag off stage because she wants the eu flag only and to be president of it

they are related to it see nah the EU will collapse when we leave as other countries will leave after us we are better off out making our own trade agreements etc and protecting our borders and our own laws and rights

oh my bad i guess i automatically assumed that being this retarded, means you must be an american

The European Commission is not democratically elected by the people. Reason enough to leave

but our MEPs are

p-please don't leave, you're the only country that's brave enought to deny the EU demands for us :(

Thanks. Good to hear that after ol' bom bom saying how America thinks we should stay

>Implying it will change

The leaders of this world are all in bed with each other anyway, any change like this is going to make such an infinitesimally small different to our every day lives, no matter how big everyone makes it out to be.

The only real change will be that we have to start paying the tariffs to trade with the EU nations, which will be almost equivalent to what we're paying into the EU as a member state anyway.

Who the fuck cares? Half of you don't even earn enough to be affected, and the other half of you don't even earn, which is why you spend time in this shithole.

I kinda want to stay because this torrie government is just going to have more power over us, and there will be nothing stopping them turning us into mini America where you can either afford a mansion or a caravan, and theres no in between because all the money that should be going to the welfare state is going to the politicians.

You gotta have some left with the right, and the niggers in Parliament are going to rape us without some socialist laws injected by the EU.

But you know, hurr de durr immigrants. All we'd have to do is negotiate for more independent border laws.

>But you know, hurr de durr immigrants

I'm not interested in a debate since everyone in this thread is fuelled by anger and bullshit thats been sanctioned to reach our eyes and ears.

Where are you from? I dunno what makes you think that Britain 'stands up' to the EU. They say jump, we say how high. I don't blame the yanks for laughing at us.

>should be going to the welfare state
>should be

Stopped reading there

this

>UK stays


>EU becomes united states of europe


>with either angela merkel or tony blair leading it

>turkey joins the eu 75 million muslims able to move in next door to you and outbreed you 10/1


>forced mass immigration under the pretence of "multiculturalism" when its just to appease the 1% and growth for big business


>by 2050 in europe white people are the minority as muslims outbreed white people by having multiple wives and many many children per family


this is what will happen if we stay or go

and this is why we need to get out of there NOW

Vote leave

If op is indicative of the level of education achieved by the great British public, we're fucked whether we stay in or not.

Ever since all this Brexit malarkey started up, one thing has been a constant. All the supposedly biased news reports, favouring one side or the other, coupled with the stupendous amount of utter tripe coming out of Facebook from both viewpoints, has been both breath-taking and depressing for a myriad of reasons. Firstly because most of the reasons given for leaving are inventive, knee-jerk and essentially xenophobic, but secondly, because so many people are lapping this shit up at face value, without taking a step back to consider the facts.

But then, it wouldn’t be Facebook if everybody did that.
I don’t claim to be any kind of expert on European socio-economics, but several things are immediately evident to me, which can be summed up in one simple phrase: leaving Europe will not magically make everything better.

The migrants will not vanish, we will not instantly ‘reclaim our borders’, the NHS will not suddenly become a shining beacon of prosperity and efficiency. What I can say, with some certainty, is that if we DO decide to leave the EU, then we will be fucked, but we won’t know exactly how fucked we are for at least 2 years. This is because of something called Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty

Article 50 basically states that should any member state (Us) wish to leave the EU, there will be a two-year period where our future dealings with the EU will be decided without us:

Is no one else Libertarian and just wants a small government? The EU is the definition of big government.

1. The Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union.
2. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
3. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

This was all decided and agreed to years ago, by a bunch of people who had just joined the wonderful EU, and had actually held a public referendum just 2 years after joining, where 66% of the public agreed to stay in. We tacitly accepted this noose being waved over our heads because it was all shiny and new, and the concept of leaving was so much fiction to us.

So, if we say we want to leave, we will have to stand back and watch while our future is decided for us. And at the end of the two years, we will be given a piece of paper to sign that will either make or break us, and he HAVE to sign it. If we don’t, then an already crappy deal just got much worse.

>you didn't fight shit, in ww2 you arrived too late to make a difference,

whatever you have to tell yourself. It amuses me when Brits say this. Brits didn't go pick a fight with Hitler- they fawned on him, cheered him and abandoned their own alliances, as he invaded democracy after democracy. They only -declared-war, yet still did absolutely nothing, after he invaded Poland- a dictatorship! Only after he invaded France did Britain attempt to fight, vainly, abandoning France via Dunkirk at the first opportunity (continuing the pattern of their WW1 retreat from France via sea). Yet another democracy abandoned.

Then, Britain began deliberately bombing German civilian targets.

America kept Britain's government afloat with Lend-Lease, and after Germany declared war, fought on 2 fronts. American airpower and ground power were decisive in the invasion of Europe.

You don't have to thank the US. You can even go on lying to yourself that the US was not necessary. But that wasn't what the Brits of 80 years ago were saying.

Jean-Claude Juncker recently said that ‘Deserters will not be welcomed back with open arms’. Of course, this was jumped upon as yet another reason to leave. Some of the Facebook comments would have been hilarious if they weren’t so short-sighted. I guess the truth hurts. Leaving the EU would be the UK sticking two fingers up to Europe and telling them they can’t be mates anymore. We don’t want their trade, their help or their money. How did you expect the President of the European Commission to react? It doesn’t matter that he was appointed, and not elected. The fact is, that he’s in a position of power, and his words have weight;

“That is not a threat, but our relations will no longer be as they are today, The United Kingdom will have to accept being considered a third party, who we won’t be bending over backwards for, life in the (European) community won’t go on as before."

Nigel Lawson was recently involved in a debate, where he declared that several countries do well outside the EU, and there are several countries that have NEVER been in the EU, and are doing pretty well. This is true, but as he says, they’ve never been IN the EU, so to compare them to us is ridiculous. An entity that has to barter its way out of a contract cannot be compared to an entity that has never entered into that same contractual agreement.

There is also this fallacy of being able to reclaim our borders if we leave the EU. Our borders have NEVER been under threat, not in the way perceived by the Brexit bunch. The free movement across borders that takes place across most European mutual border countries doesn’t apply to the UK, purely because of that irritating stretch of water called the English channel.
The mutual border patrol that operates in Calais & Dover, that is policed by both French and English officers, could very easily crumble if we exit the EU.
The French have a problem with Migrants at Calais, which they are doing very little about. Their apathy in this regard has destroyed the port town, and their lack of attention has allowed the situation to grow beyond their control. If the French authorities had any intention of removing them to another ‘mutual border’ country, they would have done it already.

The Migrants want to come to the UK, because they have been lied to. They have sold everything to get to Calais, and now they want to come here. They won’t get a job, a car, or a house, but they think they will, and no matter how many times you tell them the truth, they don’t believe you. This is what the Mail/Express/Facebook warriors are focusing on. If we leave Europe, these Johnny Foreigners will just vanish. What’s more likely to happen, is the French border patrol will be told to step aside, and the English Border patrol will be asked to leave. They might as well lay on the coaches to ship them over here.

You can post as many out-of-context videos and easily-debunked news stories about migrants rioting in the streets as you like. How short must your memories be to have forgotten the Mark Duggan riots so easily. Or even so far back to the Poll Tax riots of 1990.

youtube.com/watch?v=FRj2K0ulD8Q

Not many migrants there, just thousands of Englishmen and woman angry about what they feel is an injustice. We are not so noble as to think we are above all this.

If the vote to leave was a choice between staying in the EU, or leaving, but winding back the clock to 1973, then I would vote leave.

But it’s not 1973, it’s 2016. We’ve been here for 43 years, and we simply can’t just up sticks and leave. It’s not a simple cure-all as Johnson and Farage would like you to believe, and it’s not a magic wand with which to cure all our ills.

Polaks seem to give EU the finger once in a while.

No, being in Europe probably isn’t the best thing for our country, but think of it as a metaphorical dialysis machine. We’re not in good shape, but we need it to keep going. We could turn it off, but then we have to wait 2 years to find out if we’re getting a new kidney.

We are better off being in the EU, simply because being outside it, with this much uncertainty, and with that much against us, is too much of a financial unknown.

But please, whatever you do, don’t forget to REGISTER to vote. This isn’t an election, it’s a referendum, and the rules aren’t the same. You have to express an interest in voting. And no, it’s not some shady attempt by politicians to try to sway the result by hoping not enough people turn up to vote. It’s another of those annoying things that was agreed on in Europe, before most of us weren’t even old enough to know what Europe was.

Yeah but if they do land here, we would be free to deport them wouldn't we?

VOTE REMAIN. I've convinced my entire family to vote remain, and you should do the same!

we would have to catch them first, plus, to deport them, they would first have to be accepted back into France, and they ain;t gonna do that

So is Sup Forums even the most popular board now? I haven't been here in YONKS.

Vote leave btw.

True.
i,m a Baltcfag as well Lv ,

I changed my name by deed poll and moved address last year. I have 2 polling cards so it looks like I can vote twice

You remember Jessie Slaughter? She's...changed.

Swefag here, England is probably the only reason why we still use our own currency and that we may have our own tobacco etc

England? I thought this was replaced by an extensión of pakistan long ago

OP you're a fag post the good pic of this

I applaud your fuck'em mentality, but I also predict that you will regret the decision once you start to feel the negative effects on your economy. Don't start bitching then.

FUCKING THIS.

Eat shit. VOTE LEAVE

Considering the EU didn't exist, no, we didn't. Thankfully now it does exist so we can give it the middle finger once we leave :)

I'm actually kinda hoping we DO leave, just so all the fucking morons screaming 'Vote leave' and sharing jingoistic bollocks on facebook will realise how much they've fucked the country up once article 50 kicks in

how would this effect game releases?

It won't, we're leaving the EU not Europe.

To be honest I dont give a fuck about my country and IIWW losses, so I dont care about Union. Its cool to be a part of it, at least I dont need to show Polish passport at the border.

EU, not EA

>i got your back, bro

thanks, fuck if i care then

Why is the UK so dependant on the EU anyway? What kind of retard leader makes a country dependant on one trade union with Greece in it? Fucking Greece.

Either the leaders are lying or they have fucked up big time

Either way, its time we destroy the establishment

Well it's not like we can let Russia take the credit. They're assholes.

Don't be a retard.
It's not money you give the homeless in the street. It's investment.

sweet then whats the problem

Well I mean, maybe if the rest of Europe would get its economic shit together they wouldn't have to kiss Germany's ass to keep their shitty currency from bottoming out and their economy from collapsing. I don't see how the fact that Germany is the only country east of the Atlantic with its shit together signifies any wrongdoing on Germany's part.

Really, what it looks like to me is Europe is mostly irresponsible children who don't like living under adult Germany, but couldn't survive without it.

Stupid fucking Eurofags.

No I'm not shitting on your bed, I'm shitting on your armchair

Jeez, calm down

>very underrated post

we aren't, it'sa mutual agreement, but the leave retards are cherry picking points out of context to sway the mids of idiots

So are the remain camp, its how propaganda works

As a head of State he should stay the fuck out of UK politics, and I'm an American. I hate his whole globalist view.

He's free to say anything he wants, but to go over and talk with Cameron about it, go fuck yourself Obama.

Vote LEAVE.

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I'm also German and I completely disagree with this guy. England is one of the few EU-Countries that has its shit together.

well, no, the Remain camp are reiterating established and proveable facts about our relationship with the EU. the leave bunch are point at these facts and screaming about how stupid they are

Britfag here -- but just so you know, the UK had an agreement with it's allies, of which Poland was one, that I would step in and protect them from Germany.

When Germany annex Poland, we and the French did nothing. This "victory" for Germany strengthen their resolve to continue.

It's things like the EU that prevents world wars... so that caption is kind of stupid.

What? That the EU see's the UK as a money printing pile of dirt? That would be honest

Well...in the first place, nobody wanted the UK to come into the EU but you insisted.
Then, you did not submit to EU Rule, kept your currency etc...
And now, you want to leave...

You are indeed right
You fought them to get your own slice of money from the loser once the war was over

>Am I rite?
>VOTE LEAVE
Yes.

Merkel's asylum system and turkish visa-free travels should convince anyone the EU is dying.

>but I also predict that you will regret the decision once you start to feel the negative effects on your economy
As if staying in Merkels asylum union will make the economy bloom?

Did you guys heard about the big news in Paris?

The mayor wants to build a refugee camp IN the bloody city! wtf? we're holding the world cup and she want to have those terrorist right next to it!

>hurr durr can't leave people in the street

Theres been people in the streets for ever, french people and no one gave a fuck, now a bunch of niggers come in and we want to build them houses and give them free shit? fuck this country!

Immigrants never spilled blood for this country, they don't care for it. Muslims in particular think all of your women are whores based on Islamic teachings. They prey on your humanity and will bleed your country dry if given the chance.

Haha, this vote of yours will be a fraud, you know that right? It's already been decided you're staying, it was already decided Scotland was staying, Germany has made these decisions for you in smoke filled rooms to shape it's own future. After all, it will be "better for everyone in the long run" and I know of nothing more Bavarian than that line of thinking. Just like with Scotland the real purpose of this is to put the argument to bed, so that they can start to lampoon and otherwise deconstruct that position so they can show it's "racist" or "low-brow" or something. It's already been decided, this is just the story of how it becomes an unpopular idea. In two years you'll be calling people who wanted to leave racist just like you call Scots who wanted to leave poor/stupid.

That's why I don't want to join the army and why i think armies should only be used for self defence, not to go spread "democracy".
Sabed that pic, my new favourite.

Well they should have thought about that before they elected a socialist president. Serves them right.

nobody knows or cares wtf u r talkin about

>smoke filled rooms

Conspiracy theory dipshit alert.