Hey, i'm 21 year old male from England wanting to get into private security/military...

Hey, i'm 21 year old male from England wanting to get into private security/military. Would it be better to go join the army, french foreign legion or any other alternatives for experience?

>also military/security thread

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Depends what you want to do, security at a bank or something? Just go do a fairly simple course.

If your talking a PMC type jo working in Iraq you will need military experience to get anywhere. Just join the army in your own country. FFL is pretty extreme.

ffl will have you travel more and the army is more domestic. The army is probably safer and will have more opportunities. You're choice OP

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Join the power rangers bruh

Yeah i'm thinking PMC, which is why i'm thinking Foreign Legion because it's more extreme and would seem more appealing to employers than regular army work.

French legion lol... you wouldn't even last the night.

The military in the UK is one of the most respected in the world. If you really think you could make it through FFL your still probably better of joining a specialist unit in the UK military. Para's, Royal Marines ect.
Only real benefit to joining FFL is if you stick it out you get French citizenship. If you don't want that don't bother.

Just because you got prestige 60 on cod doesn't mean you can join the army

Thanks for the advice :^)

Plus all those benefits like ptsd and extreme depression and suicidal thoughts. Also being homeless, but hey at least you get a dog.

Interesting thought. I'll keep that in mind thanks

Well for one.. You need combat experience if you want to take part in private security. Getting basic "military" training won't get you anywhere. You really need to be willing to put yourself on the line.

Join the British Army or the Royal Marines. Don't go French Foreign Legion, you'll lack a common culture with many of the other recruits making it harder to make friends and you'll also make shit pay. British pay system is shit compared to Canadians and Australians but it's better than FFL, and you have better options as well to aspire to.

Anyway, join BA, get a couple years experience and you'll see not only do you not have what it takes to get into many PMC's (no combat experience, no special forces experience) but also you will probably be turned off by the boredom the vast majority of these jobs entail. In many cases you'll be doing gate or compound security or training foreign armies. Believe me you will not enjoy that.

You don't need combat experience.

FFL is shit, BA has tons of travel opportunities. What are you talking about.

You're a moron and need to re-evaluate.

Frenchfag here ,our foreign legion is not a PMC, it follows the orders of french governement ,and it's not paid well ,you got french citizenship and like ~1300 euros per month ,it's made for people who don't have choice ,you have choice so don't choose them

If you are going private military, most won't take you unless you have a military background. The only exceptions I've seen were for civilian medics with some years of real world service.

If he wants to be like the tards in OP's picture, yeah he'll need combat experience. Otherwise he'll be doing a lot of gate duty.

Look melvin you can't tac Knife and no scope in real life. Chances are you'll get killed on your first day. You're asking Sup Forums about military related questions for fuck sakes. Try being a school shooter you'd be better off.

Gate duty and whatnot is fine, and i'm willing to get combat experience. The picture was a quick find on google

Gate duty and whatnot is fine, even expected and i'm willing to get combat experience. The picture was a quick find on google

A quick find like your quick dedication to be a meat shield for oil

>meat shield for oil
Get a load of this buttblasted camel jockey

Thank you for the input :^)

i have friends in both, the fuck are you talking about nigger?

Either way, travel opportunities or not what i'm looking for is the relevant experience

how important is the pay to you then?

Don't listen to these idiots. Being a PMC all comes down to what training/qualifications you got in the military.
Someone who has done the UK's close protection courses but no combat experience is going to have more chance at escorting VIPs then a basic infantry soldier who has seen combat.

Obviously being in the SAS is going to be the best thing but realistically if you got yourself into paras or Royal Marines and aomehow managed to do the close protection course (tricky usually mainly MP's and SF do it) you would be set.

Close protection courses aren't exactly offered to a 3 year member, he'll be looking at a 5 year career by the time that comes about, and he'll have to be better than most in his coy. Good advice captain fuckface.

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Pay is always a good thing.
SAS>Para/Royal Marines and close protection, got it.
If five years is what it takes

Am in British Army, telling you now that if you want PMC work, army Close Protection units are the best avenue for it. That or SF and Tier 2 soldiering.
Mate is in 1 Para and another is in RMP CP, both get spammed for offers for PMC work

Jump on YouTube. There are numerous docos about paras Royal Marines and FFL. Showing what it takes to get in and what they do day to day.

More money is always good but if your not a nutcase who blows it all when you get leave you should be able to save 3/4 of your weekly pay leaving you with a nice amount of savings when you get out.

Just go back on the dole fagget

Join the RLC. They are the elite of the British Armed Forces

SF?

In fairness, the ATO's are alright

fuck that go to syria and fight ISIS

If you are a man you will try to make it into the legion before any other choice if you are a little girl you will join your countries security force or simply go to bed crying.
Good luck.

Special forces

Special forces.
And tier 2 is paras and Royal Marines.

Ah yeah, gotcha.

Sure, but FFL is mostly hardened criminals and illegal immigrants looking to get legally sanctioned aliases and French citizenship. The training program is also really hardcore.

>Distance learner and dole scrounger here

Thanks for getting shot at and paying for my dole whilst I finish my masters.

And your probably more likely to see combat in the UK military then the FFL.

Alrighty, from what i'm reading in the thread FFL isn't what i'm looking for.

Anyway fuck that man. Go into the RAF as an engineer. Get your Quals paid for by HM and the tax payer, then get the fuck out of there. Lads are landing 40-50k p/a jobs after being in. You'll come out of the army and end up being a security guard at asda or on the streets.

Source - I'm in the RAF

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>basing your future on a Sup Forums thread

Yup, you're just what the army is looking for. Dumb as fuck and easily led. Have fun fagget.

A lot of the PMC stuff boiled down to being at the right place, at the right time, with the right experience. PMC work kinda sucks now and is really slowed down from its haydays early in the GWOT. People were getting hired back then with just 3 years mil time and 1 year in combat (as infantry). Join your mil so they can make a man out of you, you probably ain't doing shit else. Maybe you will go to war, maybe not. Maybe you will end up liking the mil and making it a career. The PMC haydays may come back in the future, but you will need mil exp and mil networking to get in.

>implying
Thanks for the input :^)
Uncle did that, now works for Lufthansa and makes good money, that's an alternative yeah.

Majority of what he has been told is fact and easily looked into. Pretty easy to tell who the trolls he should ignore are.

In saying that I would hope op is using this to get some ideas and is actually going to go do some research himself.

Indeed, trolls 0/10 in thread.

I'll be putting some research into what I think will be best for me, suggestions seem on point

Do 4 years in the British Army or Marines in combat arms. Take a close protection and land and maritime based contracting courses in the UK or US. for example, Academi (formerly Blackwater) offer these courses.

Not sure how it works in the UK but I can speak on private security and close pertection. I live in the US so I'm sure things are a lot more relaxed as far as work were a firearm maybe one of your tools. I've worked as a rentacop in hell hole gang infested apartment complexes to close protection for a man that was at odds with a pretty damn scary organization. I have no military background just a decent head on my shoulders and a know the "streets" pretty well. I spoke to a guy that has a long resume from military to police and other agencies. From what I was told more and more people in the public spotlight are looking more into folks with no military background. As he put it a former military guy may react with violence a lot quicker then someone like me saving the client lots of money in a potential law suite. If you like the idea of close protection id suggest having EMT courses under your belt, take some evasive driving stuff as well as martial arts. An also learn to fit in with folks well above your tax bracket. Learn to play golf, proper restraunt etiquette and network with people you wouldn't normally try to hang out with. Shooting a gun very well is always good. It just depends on what you want to do.

The training sounds interesting, and i'll make note that networking is key.