I need your help Sup Forums. I want to live off the grid

I need your help Sup Forums. I want to live off the grid.

I'll get about $1200/mnth for disability, and if I can buy some land, I want to live out in the middle of the woods, away from everyone.

I want to be able to hunt and fish on the land.

I want to build a cabin and grow food, have a farm, with pigs, chickens, and a cow for milk.

Where can I move to get this?

How much would this cost me?

Also, I want electricity, cable and the internet, so I'm not technically "off-grid" because I still want to play PS4 online games and go on Sup Forums and show you guys my off-grid life, that's not quite off-grid.

Please, serious suggestions and advice.

Help me Sup Forums. I want to live my dream life.

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Try alaska

>>I'll get about $1200/mnth for disability

Your goal is to be worthless mooch?

this
fucking degenerate

kill yourself

what's wrong with the untaimed vistas of your moms basement?

>Try alaska
Is it fairly easy to move there from Texas?

How hard is it to adapt to life in Alaska?

>Your goal is to be worthless mooch?
Yes. Anything other questions, nigger?

>this
>fucking degenerate
Oh, I'm sorry. Should I go to church, work hard, and make a family to make you happy?

What's with all these sheep today on Sup Forums?
Go back to tumblrz, faggots.

You want to live off the grid... Just with electricity, internet, cable, city watet, trash pickup and a regular mail drop off. But also want livestock and a garden. Just live on a farmette. Or a township just outside the city.

You can try but the government will shut you down asap even if you "own" the land

>what's wrong with the untaimed vistas of your moms basement?
When she comes home, she annoys me. I want to live alone, plus if I kidnap children to make rape sex slaves, I don't want anyone around to notice.

If you are disabled, you don't want to be off in the woods. you need to be near hospitals and other such infrastructure. You can die out there, bro.

How can you be off the grid with a internet and cable subscription?

You basically just want to live in the fucking country. Because nothing you described is "off the grid." You fucking autist. Rent a fucking house outside of some small town in the middle of fucking nowhere. Asshole.

>Just live on a farmette. Or a township just outside the city.

Is a farmette like buying land for farming or something? How do I get a farmette?

Is it fairly cheap? I only need like maybe 1 or 2 acres.

You'll die when the first winter if you have don't have extensive experience

>If you are disabled, you don't want to be off in the woods. you need to be near hospitals and other such infrastructure. You can die out there, bro

First, nice trips.

Second, thanks for caring, bro-migo.

Finally, I do think about that. I worry about that too, but maybe I can find a state with lots of woods and still have civilization nearby? Kind of like in Minnesota or something?

Kill yourself if you want to get really off the grid.

>I'll get about $1200/mnth for disability

How in the hell do you consider this "off the grid"?

>in the woods
>grow food, have a farm

pick one.

what you're talking about isn't possible. you'll have a hard time living in the woods and being able to grow enough food to feed yourself.
if you want pigs, chickens, and cows, then that's just more food that you need to grow or buy.
property large enough to support that is going to run you way more than $1,200 per month.
also electricity, cable, and internet are, in fact, utilities that you have to build near. power companies will run wire onto a property adjacent to existing service, but they're not going to run power cables out to your house in BFE if there's not already electrical service there. same with internet.
cable's even worse about it, they quite frequently won't work with you at all, even if you pay for it.

>You basically just want to live in the fucking country. Because nothing you described is "off the grid." You fucking autist. Rent a fucking house outside of some small town in the middle of fucking nowhere. Asshole.

This is great advice, even though you're so angry at me, which kind of made my pee pee tingle a bit, since your anger turns me on.

Yeah, I was thinking of something like this.

Right now, I live in my mom's house, and it's a big 2-story house, but I can't have chickens or do anything outside of the homeowner's association rules.

It's like living in a 1950's rockwell painting.

Anything that deviates from the HOA and we get fined.

I refuse to live like this. I rather live in the country where no one is around to harass you.

>How can you be off the grid with a internet and cable subscription?
Like living in the country, I mean. Away from people, but still enjoy cable and electricity and shit.

>You'll die when the first winter if you have don't have extensive experience

But I'll learn, right? I'll gain experience.

I know I'll need lots of wood for winters, for fires, and lots of stored food and meats.

I think I can make it. I used to hike a lot and did the Appalachian trail and lots of camping, so I'm not totally inexperienced.

So... You want advice for moving out in the country?

How long do you think it will take them to find your body hanging in the basement?

What kind of disability do you have? I mean; it doesnt sound like you're very sick if you're planing to run a farm.

>Kill yourself if you want to get really off the grid.

That's too far off grid. I want off-grid but with PSN network connection.

that said it is possible to live off grid on $1,200 a month, but most of that is going to go towards paying for the property if you don't already own it free and clear. there are people that do it.
quite a few people own their own land, build shacks, small cottages, or treehouses, hunt and forage for survival, and only come out to buy ammunition or other things they can't get on their own, or to see a doctor.

Moar of this girl?

The trips mean truth.

Depends on your disability man. If you are in a wheelchair, you gotta be near towns and cities with good roads and sidewalks. You simply cant wheel through dirt without getting super in shape.

If you move to minnisota, prepare for cold that can kill you. Snow too. All states have issues, maybe the desert would be best. it all depends on what ails you though.

Also, 1200 a month goes quick, no matter where you live.

well, thank you anyway for the education.

maybe i just need to move to farm country or to the beach, like the florida keys?

i just want to get away from people, and home owner's associations, and everyone getting into your business.

i want to go out and fish, hunt for food, cook it over the fire, kill things and grow food of my own, be somewhat self sustained.

I'll figure it out. I always do.

Meow Meow

Yeah, a farmette is like a farm. But smaller. Thus the bastardization of the word farm by crudely shoving the "ette" ending onto it. Usually only a couple of acres. Just make sure you've got potable water and know how to grow plants and raise livestock. Pigs and chickens eat literally anything. Including your crops and each other.

>So... You want advice for moving out in the country?

I...I guess? How do I become a country boy?

if that's all you're looking for, you can do it basically anywhere. only issue is finding property cheap enough. the farther out you go, the cheaper it is, but you're also farther away from emergency services, reliable food sources (grocery), etc. first time you get snowed in, or your car won't start, and you're an hour's drive from help is scary.

>How long do you think it will take them to find your body hanging in the basement?

Fucking kek. I don't know. Maybe like 9 months before my detective cop brother comes looking for me.

toughen the fuck up for starters

>What kind of disability do you have? I mean; it doesnt sound like you're very sick if you're planing to run a farm.

Just mental stuff; ADHD, Bi-Polar disorder, and a tiny hint of Paranoid Schizophrenic.

Basically, I spend all day talking to teenage cat girls from another dimension, and I don't do well around people, but I do really well with animals and plants ( I can talk to plants ).

Meow Meow

Working at somebody else's farm is a viable option, if you are tough enough.

Youre getting disability but you want to hunt and fish? Fucking leech. Kill yourself.

>Moar of this girl?
I got it from a "chunky girls" thread, even though I wouldn't consider her chunky, she just has a cute pot belly probably from being a lazy little cunt who loves to eat fast food and chocolate all the time.

about to say fag, minnesota would be one of your best best like the bemidji area plenty of woods, plenty of people, plenty of big hospital.bagley is a great area too hospital within 20-30 miles and straight woods all over

>prepare for cold that can kill you

This is the first time I'm hearing this, but I believe you.

I lived in Colorado, so I'm used to cold winters and snow storms, but I always figured the northern states could be killer winter states.

I'm sure I can survive as long as I don't go anywhere and just stay home all the time close to a fire, right?

back up generator and a heater?

wow, do you ever sound like a faggot

You're going to have to keep warm, learn to trap, hunt, fish, and to learn how to prepare and store a lot of meat so you won't have to go out during the brutal winter. It's all year round hard work. You're also far from hospitals and if something bad happens you're waiting for a helicopter for 30+ minutes to get taken to the hospital.

Try Montana, internet isn't perfect but the weather isn't as harsh as Alaska and cost of living is low.

She's pregnant you dumb hillbilly asshole.

you'd do better if you found a hot wildling to spoon honestly

Well, I grew up on an island, and we had pigs, chickens and cows, so I know about farm life a bit, even though I was super young.

I remember the old women would throw huge buckets of water with old rice and leftovers, and the pigs would eat it all up.

Yeah, I love that life. Killing a pig, Roasting it.

Cutting off a chickens head and cooking it.

Growing fruits and vegetables. Love it.

Pregnant

>toughen the fuck up for starters
I'm a tough guy actually.

On the outside I look like I just got out of prison or I'm in a biker gang like the Hell's Angels; really scary big muscular guy.

On the inside, I'm a little faggot and I love anime and cartoons and hentai porn.

Meow Meow

(I'm basically insane)

Alaskan winter? No, you'll die.
Nothing can prepare you for how cold it is, how deep the snow gets, how sparse game is.
Foraging is impossible, good luck hunting when the sun's only up two hours a day.
If you don't have a stockpile of food that will last you until the snow thaws, you'll die.
If you don't have the right food stockpiled, you'll be dealing with vitamin deficiencies and fatigue all winter. Not fun when you need to work.
Transportation is impossible, snowmobiles are mandatory and if you don't know how to fix it on the fly, you die. If you're out far enough, medical attention is only accessible by train or seaplane.
"Lots of wood" is an understatement. You need a small forest.

No disrespect to any outdoors experience you have, but if you haven't experienced Canadian or Alaskan winter in remote places, you don't have the right experience.

>wow, do you ever sound like a faggot

Well, I watch trap porn and fantasize about sucking cock, so...does that make me a faggot?

k

You wouldn't make it in the country. My sister would spit dip down your faggot throat and take your $1200.

>You're going to have to keep warm, learn to trap, hunt, fish, and to learn how to prepare and store a lot of meat so you won't have to go out during the brutal winter. It's all year round hard work. You're also far from hospitals and if something bad happens you're waiting for a helicopter for 30+ minutes to get taken to the hospital.

Damn, now that you put it that way, I'm not sure I want that kind of life anymore.

Thanks, user! You gave me a lot to think about.

Maybe I can be like a hippie fisher living in the Florida Keys and just take a small jon boat out to fish and live off mangos and fruits and fish and rice?

>Try Montana, internet isn't perfect but the weather isn't as harsh as Alaska and cost of living is low.
I need to go visit, but I love how it looks in pics

>She's pregnant you dumb hillbilly asshole.
Jesus Christ, I honestly never thought of that until now. She's pregnant! Thanks, user.

>you'd do better if you found a hot wildling to spoon honestly
I thought about that. Maybe I need to marry a tough girl or a country girl?

My ex used to be the man of the house and run things. I'm more of a spoiled princess type of dude. Rich family. My parents spoiled me.

Ok, so here goes. Oldfag here. I grew up on a farm. It's tough work. People tend to get this daydream going in their head of leaving it all behind and being rid of the bullshit -- living for yourself and everything you do is directly related to your well-being. Hell, my wife and I have talked extensively about hobby farming and similar lifestyles. The reality is, even though I work for someone else, I have a much much higher standard of living than I would in executing a plan like you describe. We vacation in very pretty areas,own land in several states, and don't have to worry incessantly about how we would cover a minor emergency. So:
1) I suggest you visit appropriate forums to learn more about the realities of tiny houses, hobby farming, off-grid life, etc.
2) what the hell happens if you get sick? No insurance = no care, unless you grift off the ER.
3) sick? Injured? If you don't work, you don't eat. Period.
4) do you know anything at all about raising veggies and livestock?
5) have you ever spent any real time in isolation? How did you handle it?
6) look into spending a year or two in SE Asia (Vietnam, Thai, Cambodia). See how you manage on that pension in a place that is much cheaper than the USA.
7) Have you considered moving back to Africa?

You pluck the feathers before cutting it's head off. And if you buy seeds, they're usually hybrids and stop being what was sold to you after 2 generations. They revert. Chickens get broody, you HAVE to milk the cows and soil needs to have adequate nutrients. As a farm boy transplant to the city, most people don't know shit. Do some research and work for someone with a farm first.

This guy gets it.

You can't afford enough land to really do that. At all. Not even close. Your best bet is to buy a little run down fixer upper house with a couple of acres out in the middle of nowhere so you can at least pretend you're off the grid.

The land all around yours won't be yours, but there are plenty of places where it's rural and the adjoining land is either federally owned or lumber land that hardly ever gets messed with but every 20 years or so to clear-cut and replant.

Chickens and a garden is fine, but you're probably a little delusional about the whole big farm thing. That takes a LOT of work, a LOT of money, and a LOT of time, of which you only have time and obviously not much fire under your ass about it to be asking Sup Forums instead of looking up land for sale.

to do what you imagine for real would take upfront costs of 6 figures in down payments for the land and equipment and supplies and animals, along with monthly mortgage for the land of several thousand a month.

So, rethink that. Instead focus on looking up properties you can afford with a little house and at least a few acres so you can live the dream - lite version. You could probably do it on your income if you saved up a few thousand for the down payment or if your state has some kind of assitance program for poor first time home buyters

It's a complicated road that you need to be researching thoroughly. You have to be able to get the loan, so your credit has to be at least, not bad. This is real advice, by the way, not some pie int he sky dreamland shit. So, good luck.

You have to do some research. In the northern states, people go bankrupt from buying gas to heat their homes and poor people are found dead in their living rooms.

I have read some of your other posts. I think you just need to move away from your folks. I promise you though, you will never escape nosey neighbors and other fuckheads until you are rich. You will never get rich on disability though.

yeah, another user said the same thing. honestly never thought of that until now. haha

>No disrespect to any outdoors experience you have, but if you haven't experienced Canadian or Alaskan winter in remote places, you don't have the right experience.

Yikes! Sounds scary as fuck. You're right, I'm not ready for something like that.

Maybe I can pay someone to do all the work for me, like a slave or servant outdoorsman?

Maybe I can be like a Bruce Wayne survival dude, with a butler who takes care of all that?

>My sister would spit dip down your faggot throat and take your $1200.

My dick is diamonds right now imagining your sister doing that to me.

Can I maybe pay you or her to come over and spit in my face and tell me how fucking worthless I am while I jerk off?

I'd like to help you, however I'd prefer not to interfere with a mentally-Ill psychopath

Wow. Yeah, I'm out.

You're pretty dumb OP, lets clear all this up.

Virtually nothing you're describing is "off the grid" so stop calling it that. Having your own property on a budget of 1200/month is not going to happen, so take that dream and throw it in the trash. If you want to farm, find a farm that takes live-in farmhands so you can stay with them. If you want to be alone, budget yourself like a normal adult and find a rentable space worth 1/3 your monthly income. Pick one, you can't have both.

If you want to finance for your own property, you have to build credit, which means being a normal person and doing normal person things like leasing furniture on a loan from the bank so that they know you're capable of paying them back. You need assloads of credit if you want to lease for a house with land, especially if you want to be paying a small enough amount each month to still be able to live off of what's left. (seriously, 1200 a month is practically no money at all)

in summation, OP is a piece of shit hoping that life will just hand him the answer to a stupid fucking pipe dream

>Maybe I can be like a Bruce Wayne survival dude, with a butler who takes care of all that?
Not on $1200 a month.

>I want to be a disgusting hermit slob that fucks children and is a console peasant
>pls help me be a faggot 4chin

>getting b8ed this fucking hard by an autistic fuck

Good call.

This is my dream also but what I've learnt is that you have to play the game in order to get out of the game.

It takes money to get off the grid, so out ur dream aside for now and work ur ass off in order to fund it in the future.

>Have you considered moving back to Africa?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Do some research and work for someone with a farm first.
Nah. This is all too much work. YOu guys are ruining the dream for me.

I need to have like 12 servants doing all the work, while I stay in my air conditioned room, shit posting on Sup Forums.

Where can I buy slaves or servants? I want filipinos or Japs.

Fuck you user. I actually wasted my time typing to you because you were disabled.

No problem. I grew in Alaska and it sucked. But learned a lot. Our neighbors needed wood and we took a trip to bring them wood for meat but when we go there they almost froze to death.

>It's a complicated road that you need to be researching thoroughly. You have to be able to get the loan, so your credit has to be at least, not bad. This is real advice, by the way, not some pie int he sky dreamland shit. So, good luck.

Wow. Thank you so much.

This was really great advice and you gave me a lot to work with, and where to start researching and looking into.

I've been monitoring my credit online, and now finally qualified for a credit card, so i'm fixing my credit to make it a lot better and pay my bills on time and any debts.

Thank you, user.

Also, you sounded so much like my mom, are you a woman?

I felt like my mom was talking to me haha

>people go bankrupt from buying gas to heat their homes and poor people are found dead in their living rooms.

Wow. Seriously? Often? I've never heard of this. That's some scary shit.

Thanks for the good advice, user. I think I can make more money selling my art. I'm a graphic artist, professional level, so I can always sell art online for more cash and save up money.

Thank you again, friend.

Well OP, you'd better have about 10-20 grand saved up for the downpayment on your shitty little fixer upper on 2-5 acres in the middle of fucking nowhere, AND be able to get the 30 year FHA loan so you can enjoy the luxury pay about $500-800 a month in mortgage.

Yeah, so you had better start saving now while you live with your mom, or you'll never even get the chance to sink like a stone, since you'll never get off the shore without the downpayment and loan for the property.

>Wow. Yeah, I'm out.
>Good call.

Geez, I was just joking. Maybe Sup Forums isn't the right place for you, fellas?

Peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You do realize that 1200 a month is just barely above the poverty line in some parts of the country, right? Like I bust my ass for 1200 a month. I live in town in a shitty area in a duplex just kinda scrape by. Paying for land and servants and feed and seed would be ridiculous on that budget. You could probably live on a farmette by yourself if you're willing to do all the work. Like spending no money aside from bills too.

That's more than enough to live on.
While some people slave away for less.
I hope by off the grid you mean like dead.

>I'd like to help you, however I'd prefer not to interfere with a mentally-Ill psychopath

Why not? It's not like I can find you and hurt you. Just friendly online advice! :)

But yeah, it seems from your reply that you are intelligent and educated enough to know what kind of person I am.

Some people think it's an attempt to be edgy, but I'm almost 40 and living with my mom for a reason; I can't seem to control myself and I'm terrified of ending up in prison for life, just because someone looks at me the wrong way and I cut their head off with a steak knife or something.

It's amazing how my mother, in her mid 60's, has the balls to put up with me.

She does make me put a lock with key on her bedroom door so she can lock it at night LOL

I love her so much, but she knows me enough to know I could do something stupid when I have an episode.

Well, since I avoid going to a shrink, just in case they try to lock me up, thanks for letting me vent, my friend!

I feel better now.

Meow Meow

If you're 40 and you're just now thinking about going out on your own, you wold probably be better suited to keep it a fantasy and continue down the path you know, unless you have money to burn, because these little experiments in owning property and having real responsibility, wipe out a lot of people who don't know better and think it's all so easy.

>in summation, OP is a piece of shit hoping that life will just hand him the answer to a stupid fucking pipe dream

OR (an option you haven't considered), I can seduce an old lady (I've done it before) since I'm pretty good looking, and completely manipulative, so I can live with a rich old lady.

I did it 2 years ago, even fucked the old twat, and she got me a truck and let me run the house.

You normies always thinking inside the box.

>Not on $1200 a month.
I know,. You're right.

I need to hookup with an ugly old rich bitch.

>>I want to be a disgusting hermit slob that fucks children and is a console peasant
>>pls help me be a faggot 4chin
OP Here,

You hit the nail on the head, faggot.

Any questions or suggestions, other than "KYS", No? Ok. Go back to normie websites.

>It takes money to get off the grid, so out ur dream aside for now and work ur ass off in order to fund it in the future.

What about a get rich quick scheme or marrying an ugly old rich woman?

Alaska

>Fuck you user. I actually wasted my time typing to you because you were disabled.

Well, summerfag, maybe now you'll learn that Sup Forums isn't the safe space you thought it was!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>No problem. I grew in Alaska and it sucked. But learned a lot. Our neighbors needed wood and we took a trip to bring them wood for meat but when we go there they almost froze to death.

Yeah, I don't want that life. I should stick to tropical environments. Lol

>Yeah, so you had better start saving now while you live with your mom, or you'll never even get the chance to sink like a stone, since you'll never get off the shore without the downpayment and loan for the property.

Actually, about 3 years ago, I borrowed my gf's gun which she bought legally ( I can't since I'm a mental case), then I went and robbed some niggers for drug money, thinking I'd get maybe 2grand, I actually stole about 28 grand from them, and shot the 2 niggers who recognized me so there were no witnesses.

Never got caught. Gave the money to my family to pay bills and shit.

Got myself new computer equipment and a truck.

I can always go and get money. That's not the problem.

I just want to know the best places to live away from people and in the woods or country.

Yeah, I'm realize that now from this thread, and also...why are you working so hard?

Just tell your doctor you're having PTSD, go a shrink who will sign off on you getting disability, tell them you're Muslim escaping Syria, and you'll get food and a home in Sweden!

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>If you're 40 and you're just now thinking about going out on your own, you wold probably be better suited to keep it a fantasy and continue down the path you know, unless you have money to burn, because these little experiments in owning property and having real responsibility, wipe out a lot of people who don't know better and think it's all so easy.

You're right. I'm just fishing for knowledge.

I'm pretty sure if my mom dies, I'll end up living on the road, stealing and killing people for money and shit, probably join a motorcycle gang and sell guns. Who knows.

I used to buy and sell shotguns and ar-15's; made about $13k a month on average.

Yup. Seen that before.

If that tiny little white trash redneck can do it, I can do it. I'm built like a football player and can handle just about anything.

Only thing is, staying away from cops or government people.

Well then.

Seems better than talking about traps on a image board.

>Seems better than talking about traps on a image board.

I found both exercises equally fulfilling.

Yeah, I actually have PTSD from being homeless on and off for 7 years. I've seen some shit. I see a therapist. I refuse to take taxpayer money to be lazy. I was out of work for 6 weeks and never collected unemployment because I'm not a fucking leech. I work to live my own life, how I want to.

Too soon!

FYI outside cities and suburbs internet connection gets very very spotty. There is a reason 30% of the US still has dial-up. My sister in law lives in a town of 3,000 in Illinois, and they are projected to get "cable internet" in 2025

just go on a camping trip

What the fuck? kek

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