/Grimes/

Discuss one of the 10's signature musicians.

Reminder to be nice to Claire.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes_(musician)#Musical_style
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Grimes on Instagram:
>sorry for so much social media 2day/ yesterday. in an odd series of coincidences the last few months of things ive been working on are coming out this week haha. anyway/- thanks SO much @vmagazine for putting grims on the latest cover

New interview: vmagazine.com/article/v104-grimes-interview/

>Still, Boucher’s not entirely prepared to abandon the glamour of big budget videos just yet; she has also just finished collaborating with Janelle Monáe on her video for “Venus Fly,” their shared track on Art Angels, which will serve as the 11th and final video off the album.

>As she closes the door on this album, Boucher has a calmer project in mind for the next: “I’m really vibing on making something really slow and gorgeous that just breathes, and has room to breathe. I feel like my work has always been fast paced, kinetic, and almost just manic and I feel like for me the hardest thing I can do is make something that’s slow and heavy. I’m so ADD in my work; I really want to push myself into something that would be slower and more reflective.”

She got new tattoos: instagram.com/delphinenoiztoy/

Is Geidi Primes anyone's favorite album? I've seen Halfaxa, Visions and Art Angels being mentioned as many anons' favorite Grimes album but never Geidi Primes.

I really like it, but it's not my #1. Sorry, her other albums are superior.

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It's okay, it's actually my least favorite Grimes album but I just wanted to know if it's anyone's favorite.

There must be some people that like it the most. Maybe the Dune fans, who knows...

>Reminder to be nice to Claire.

>discuss to your heart's delight
>except don't be critical of her

Should I lurk more, or is this a shitty joke?

>discuss to your heart's delight
This is a fan thread, if you don't get the idea. You could be critical or her, but in a decent way. If you come here to insult her and her fans then her fans will kick your ass in no time. Respect if you want respect.

Hmm. Can't g(rimes)-pop threads just move to or somewhere, then? The girl is clearly 95 % image and 5 % music.

>Can't g(rimes)-pop threads just move to or somewhere, then?
No.
>The girl is clearly 95 % image and 5 % music.
You clearly took that out of your ass. On the previous thread there were 314 posts and 65 images (those images posts included text as well). Go away, filter her threads and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Ah, the old 'if you don't like it, just ignore it' fallacy. 'If something shits something else (such as a board) up, just leave the board rather than speak out against it.' it was never tenable and it is not tenable now.

1. The board isn't yours.
2. If you don't like something you could ignore/hide/filter. Filters exist for a reason.
3. The board isn't yours.
4. GTFO.

I would prefer if you didn't pretend that your claims hold any merit.

The board is not yours, either. We are equal participants in it. In your making of your threads, you partake in shaping of it, and so do I with my opposition to them. Your insistence that I *don't* speak out while you have implicitly done so by making your threads and posts is nothing but hilariously glaring hypocrisy.

Filtering is clearly irrelevant for numerous reasons you are perfectly aware of, such as displacing valuable music threads off of the board and encouraging posting base to spill non-musical discussion into other threads.

Even your requests to 'be nice' are only an argument against you, because such hostility would not have occurred for no reason: you literally admit that you are not being welcome.

tl;dr your flat (not to mention hypocritical) hostility is a result of you having literally zero arguments.

I like Geidi Primes a LOT more than Visions. It's just that I like Halfaxa more than Geidi Primes by a hair.

>Filtering is clearly irrelevant for numerous reasons you are perfectly aware of, such as displacing valuable music threads off of the board and encouraging posting base to spill non-musical discussion into other threads.
Lmao. Displacing valuable music threads? There's place for lots of threads, including "valuable music threads" like this one Dude, /grimes/ is an important part of Sup Forums. Learn to live with it. Yeah, it's not my board either, but I don't go to threads that I hate to whine about them. You should do the same. Whining about a legendary thread will not solve anything.

FYI I'm not even the OP.

>There's place for lots of threads

'A wrong thing is okay because there's still going to remain a lot of good things either way.'

Not an argument.

>Whining about a legendary thread will not solve anything.

'A wrong thing is okay because any degree of change that speaking out against it might effect is insignificant according to my subjective standards of significance.'

Not an argument either.


You're really bad at this reasoning thing, aren't you.

>You're really bad at this reasoning thing, aren't you.
You're really bad at that. Spitting some irrelevant quotes =/= arguments. Try harder. As I said, if you don't like them, filter them. People will not stop posting about her because you really wish that.

Art Angels was alright. A good number of tracks, such as Belly of the Beat and California are trainwrecks. Kill V Maim and Realiti are easily the highlights of the album.

To this day my favourite album is Halfaxa

oh my god she is so beautiful

...Oh, and 'a wrong thing is okay because there already are wrong things anyway', which I didn't notice owing to the way my screen split the line, is, guess what, not an argument either.

>literally repeating yourself even after I explicitly pointed out your errors

Also.

>irrelevant quotes

They are not irrelevant. YOU YOURSELF had conceded validity of discussing those threads as wrong (invalid, undesirable) elements of the board as soon as your 'argument' put forth quantitative claims such as 'there are other bad threads' or 'there is still space for good threads'. Your backpedalling out of it (when your acknowledgement of validity of my referring to those threads as bad follows logically from the content of your own posts) only confirms that you are, guess what, a hypocrite.

Most people either love or hate Art Angels. I'm in the first category. Belly of the Beat and California are my least favorite tracks from this albums, but I wouldn't call them trainwrecks. They're actually pretty nice on their own, maybe too nice (sugary).

I hope you don't think you're smart, for your own sake

cute music for cute people

Aphex twin is known for his work with synths, and those aren't a fucking toy for kids who can't learn an actual instrument/work with virtual instruments.

if Grimes was involved in a Roland Synth project, I wouldn't be calling her a sellout, because she's known for using Roland Synths.

I agree that they have value on their own. They are very catchy and production value is on par with the rest of the album, but i just can't like them on those factors alone. Luckily the rest of the album makes up for it and enjoyed it, in the end

'You're not smart!'

Ultimate hypocrisy: not even pretending for one's posts to try for generality. Pure focus on personality, on the image. Whether of Grimes or of her detractors, this doesn't matter.

no, it doesn't matter because I have experience with people like you who "debate" and are, without exception, pseudointellectuals
just good luck in life, dude

there are far more /grimes/ posters than just him. We make our thread, we post in it, we are happy to be left alone in our thread and police it ourselves, occasionally bringing up Grimes in other threads when it's on topic.

You're whole argument loses all of it's water due to that simple fact. We are a self-sufficient thread, we don't drain any resources from other threads. We keep to ourselves and yet constantly shitposters like you throw a tantrum instead of using tools that the site provides you with to avoid threads like these. Sup Forums is run via an anarchic pure democracy. There is demand for these threads, they are made and posted in. End of story.

You should read pic related, in the hopes that you come away with a sense of self awareness of how big of a foooool you are.

dude just shut the fuck up, ok? all you can fucking do is focus on how "dumb" he is, yet here you are listening to Grimes and posting in /grimes/

do you have a single ounce of self awareness?

>There is demand for these threads, they are made and posted in. End of story.
Hit the nail on the head. Demand and offer, the basic laws of economy. Who is foolish to be against these laws?

>yet here you are listening to Grimes
Not that user, but this argument is plain stupid. What is wrong to listen to her highly acclaimed and enjoyable music? Are you a snob?

>and posting in /grimes/
You're posting here too. Isn't that ironic?

Keep talking about me rather than the issue at hand, if you want. Just don't expect me to facilitate such derailment of the thread.

Very nice. Except literally not true. Fictional simplification of reality.

Those threads are not 'self-contained'. This is self-delusion. There is a constant stream of newcomers who are taught that Sup Forums welcomes generals for single artists. Or that it is a place for gossip. Even of the older users to whom you constantly return who know of filtering there is a fraction that will in time become more tolerant of it. Your 'keeping to oneself' has no basis in fact.

< this commie

Dude, I repeat that once again: use your filters. These general threads always have the keyword "grimes". What do you actually want from /grimes/?

>There is a constant stream of newcomers who are taught that Sup Forums welcomes generals for single artists

See these threads used to be singular threads and not generals. But they happened with such frequency and hit the bump limit multiple times a day that /grimes/ was born.

I see no problem with other artists having generals if they collected a swarm of posters like Grimes has. It's not our fault people make incorrect assumptions about this board because of our threads, and your argument that we are somehow responsible for the behavior of other posters on this board is laughable at best.

lol I was thinking about posting that.

though demand and supply do exist in a socialist society. The only difference between socialism and capitalism is that there is no "managerial" class. People own their craft. Think medieval times without the feudalism.

This post makes no sense. Universality of laws such as demand and supply in no way implies that there is never any basis in modifying either. There will always be a supply and demand for abuse videos. This in no way implies it is invalid to decrease it.

>comparing music and artist discussion on a music forum to abuse videos
how difficult were the mental gymnastics to come to this conclusion there, lad?

Edgy commie. It's no wonder that communism bring poverty everywhere. In theory it sounds good, in practice it doesn't work because people aren't equal and everyone has different needs and skills.

I wanna have sex with that orange top more, desu sempai

thats not what communism is about.

Correct. If there will not be demand anymore, these threads will die a natural death, because no one will contribute anymore. If we love the concept of freedom of speech we should accept the existence of opinions that we don't like (including threads about artists we hate). That's democracy.

>I repeat that once again

Yes. Indeed. This is the problem -- that you, in a truly desperate fashion by this point, try to la-la-not-listening your precious 'just filter them', as if this nullified the very real consequences of existence of those threads on the board.

>collected a swarm of posters like Grimes has

Improving a situation, such as improving the big wrong of numerous gossip threads into the lesser wrong of one gossip general, does not make the latter not wrong.

>It's not our fault people make incorrect assumptions about this board because of our threads

It is literally and directly your fault. You facilitate discussion of personality of a barely-musician and encourage parallel threads. It doesn't get more direct than that.

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>barely musician

so you reveal yourself to know nothing about grimes, her music, these threads, music in general, Sup Forums, the internet, society, life, the world and the universe in just 2 words.

fucking
loma

>a barely-musician
Do you mean "a barely musician" respected by the whole music world (critics, elitists, normies, fans, metalheads, electroheads, young and old people, etc)? Why don't you actually listen to her music to see what is the big deal about her?

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>>comparing music and artist discussion on a music forum to abuse videos

Severity of a phenomenon is not relevant to its nature. I gave an example for clarity, but it is not needed -- I gave an intrinsic description as well. Feel free to remove the final sentence, my point will still stand.

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>these threads will die a natural death, because no one will contribute anymore

As I already described, this is the hypocritical double standard. You evoke the 'it's natural' standard to yourselves, to your posting of those threads, while denying it to objectors to them. Even though occurrence of such objections, demand and supply for them, is exactly as natural. You really should be able to see this.

These threads are about a musician, so they're legit, like it or not. I fail to see what is exactly your problem with them. You can't sleep at night because of them? Would you prefer countless of smaller threads about her, instead?

it isn't because they aren't equal to each other at all.

>These threads are about a musician, so they're legit

Again, literally not true. 'Sup Forums - Music'. Not 'Sup Forums - Music & Musicians'. The 'artists' in >>>Sup Forumsrules/1 does not refer to artists as people in general, but to particular artists as opposed to music (theory and philosophy of it) in general. It is a metonymy for 'music of particular artists', not a literal encouragement to discuss musicians' personae.

>You can't sleep at night because of them?

Already addressed the irrelevance of this.

>Would you prefer countless of smaller threads about her, instead?

Already addressed the irrelevance of this.

>As I already described, this is the hypocritical double standard. You evoke the 'it's natural' standard to yourselves, to your posting of those threads, while denying it to objectors to them
you're doing the same, but in the opposite way, this happens in every discussion with people who hold arguments

This is just 'you're wrong'. Cite, respectively, a particular omission of a qualitative difference between some things by me or a particular inconsistency by me.

i am not cute. does that mean i can't listen to her?

what? no, it's not that at all, I'm just pointing out how arguments work, you brought that up

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You seem to be under some sort of confusion that every disagreement of priorities exhibits the error (one of many) I pointed out in this thread, namely the error of justifying existence of an act such as making certain kinds of threads by 'people want them, it's natural' while failing to grant this justification to detractors of such threads, who 'just want it' as well.

she's just perfect

>Again, literally not true. 'Sup Forums - Music'. Not 'Sup Forums - Music & Musicians'.
Huh? Music is a generic term and it includes the musicians. They make the music, ffs. You're splitting the hair in 4. I don't know if this is an elaborate trolling or you're for real.

english isn't my first language, and I don't know if that's just me (maybe another english speaker could speak up) but that sentence is overly and needlessly complicated
I don't get what you were trying to say, sorry

You will transform and become cute by extensively listening to Grimes's music.

In other words, it is perfectly possible to argue for removal of something without (wrongly) invalidating the claims for its continuation. I'm not saying that you have no right to argue for existence of those threads -- you do. The problem is that you have been taking away my right to object to them, using an array of fallacies.

Imo taken as a whole it is the least cohesive of her albums so far - which is why you hardly ever see/hear people naming it as their favorite.

Personally I find most - if not all - of the individual songs quite interesting and pleasant. However listening to them all together doesn't really add anything - whereas on her other albums the combined effect of hearing all the tracks together adds a whole extra dimension to the listening experience.

I'm not saying that Geidi Primes is bad. Just that there is more levels of good to be found in her subsequent releases.

>Music is a generic term and it includes the musicians. They make the music, ffs.

This doesn't hold at all. Humans make computers, but no computing forum is a place for discussing programmers.

See . I'm not a native speaker either, by the way.

>nice =/= non-critical
Probably just lurk more, since you clearly have a penchance for false dischotomies.

As a matter of fact, your mention of 'nice' betrays your emotional involvement in the first place. You would fare much better with 'be factual', which implies no expectation of pandering.

>still splitting the hair in 4

Grimes' music is 100% music.
Grimes is 100% a multimedia project created by Claire Boucher.
Claire Boucher is 100% a human being - just like you or me. Which is why you should be nice to her.

>introduce an arbitrary, superfluous extension of the concept of music so that it includes people who make it
>accuse other people of needless complexity

Blah blah blah. On every single music board on this planet the musicians are also discussed. If you have a problem with this obvious fact, I can't help you.

I want grimes being inside of me, I want to devour her

>Grimes' music is 100% music.
>Grimes is 100% a multimedia project

By distinguishing between Grimes and her music, you literally acknowledged the difference between the two. Since you also literally acknowledged partial nonmusicality (multimediality) of the latter, you are logically obliged to at least rename the genera; from /Grimes/ to /Grimes' music/ in the future iteration.

I've never heard it (or maybe I have I'm bad with listening to whole albums kill me now /mu) but she's 10 times the waifu for making an album named for Dune hrrrrng

>On every single music board on this planet the musicians are also discussed.

In the offtopic sections.

fucking dick for nuts it's spelled penchant.

>the genera;
*the general

>Complaining about other people liking things I don't like
Lol how original.

actually English nerd here genera could be properly used there

Yet again, literally not true. I don't complain about your preferences, I complain about consequences of your pursuit of your preferences on *my* preferences. Your thread does not exist in a parallel reality; it exists on Sup Forums's Sup Forums and its contents influence it by association.

>I would prefer
user, in case it hasn't been made perfectly clear yet, nobody here cares - nor should care - about what a troll like you thinks.

in the classic latin sense anyway, not the biological sense (although same concept just narrowly applied)

Believe me or not, I noticed it. Not as far as to consider its grammaticality, but I did. I guess I was too attached to the biological sense to entertain it.

cause her music is generic top 40 right?
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Calling bait, the last resort.

yeah, I kinda doubt it was intentional anyway cause most people would use genus

(Actually, my correction itself proves this -- if I hadn't found the typo'd version plausible, I wouldn't have corrected it.)

lolwut? generic doesn't equal genera breh, genera is a category distinction. species, genus, family, order, that kind of thing

Claire herself makes a clear distinction between her project Grimes and she as a person. The thing is that she's a really interesting person, so she's discussed very often. Just to have an idea of why people like her, here's a neat pasta:

>Full name: Claire Elise Boucher
>Born: 17 March 1988 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
>Origin: Québécois, Ukrainian, Russian and Italian descent

>Instruments:
- vocals
- synthesizer
- sampler
- guitar
- bass
- drums
- violin
- ukulele

>Skills:
- singer
- songwriter
- producer
- sound engineer
- lyricist
- live performer
- visual artist
- music video director & editor
- dancer
- model

>Main interests:
Music, visual arts, dancing, books, films, modeling, video games, internet, and others

>Music taste:
last.fm/user/chairmandore/library
youtube.com/watch?v=ahnUH7wnW30
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes_(musician)#Musical_style
pandora.com/station/2895208146671614201

>Others:
- Grimes does everything in her music, from singing and songwriting to artwork and production
- nice personality, beautiful look, cares about environment issues and saving animals
- took her name from grime music after discovering the existence of the genre on Myspace
- studied ballet for 11 years
- was a goth outcast in high school
- studed neuroscience, philosophy, and Russian literature and McGill University before being dropped out for missing classes
- had some troubles in the past: drugs, 2 friends died because of overdosing drugs, sexual assault, shitty jobs, the professor who got her into a music program killed himself
- started making music when she was around the age of 22 or 23
- big Lord of the Rings, Dune, Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Abbess Hildegard von Bingen and Russian literature fan
- her best friends are James Brooks, Hana, Bloodpop, Duffy, Born Gold

different people made those posts user

She's actually a big Dune fan. Listen to Geidi Primes ASAP, it's very short (just under 32 minutes). Considering when and how it was made, it sounds really good. Rosa is my fave tune from GP, btw.

I'm going to sleep very soon as I didn't sleep yesterday
any other argument I can make in reply to you is way less important than this one: you said you are against these threads because they're taking away a place in the 150 threads limit, but is it really that a rational thing to do when shit like this exists on the same catalog?
you get the point

you've replied before to this saying that that doesn't make these threads any better, which I agree with, but is it rational (and I'll use an example since you like to use them too) to focus on mowing the lawn when a fire is expanding two houses away? and I use this example because, different to those threads, these always have some music discussion on them
why did you choose to argue so much on a single thread which isn't even the worse of them all? this reveals a bias in you
do you hate grimes as a person? do you hate her fans?
do you hate the constant spamming of her in threads which bypass filters by not mentioning her name? I hate them too
but you're still being biased against these threads, like it or not

>In your making of your threads, you partake in shaping of it,
Yes.

>and so do I with my opposition to them.
Posting IN THEM isn't a form of opposition - it's a way of CONTRIBUTING to them.

>Filtering is clearly irrelevant
Fyi blaming other people for your inability to effectively operate Sup Forums's filtering system isn't gonna make you any friends.

>you literally admit that you are not being welcome.
Trolls are not welcome on /mu in general, as per board rules. Get over it.

To be fair, 'generic', 'general', 'gene' et c. (see how I unconventionally isolated 'et', the conjunction, here?) are all related words.

The only time that relevance of background of something (such as the background behind someone's music) to that thing itself is asserted is when that thing in itself is not interesting enough to sustain discussion.

yeah.. i knew a Geidi Primes guy

You don't seem like a bad guy (sorry for that "GTFO") but you need to understand that these threads are here to say. Maybe you could participate with some good discussion if you're willing to listen to her music first.

do you understand how giving a fuck works at all? you're an autist.

Lol you must be REALLY starved for attention right now.

huh?

you forgot composer

>The only time that relevance of background of something (such as the background behind someone's music) to that thing itself is asserted is when that thing in itself is not interesting enough to sustain discussion.
Don't underestimate how interesting she is. People could talk nonstop about her, she's THAT interesting. Her background would be nothing without some good music to support that. And her music is astonishing.