Unemployment Thread- Why you are unemployed

Unemployment Thread- Why you are unemployed.
>be me just got out of college, Commputer science degree
>applied to companies, rejected
>applied to McDonalds, over qualified.

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I just want to be sure that you are not doing your usual mischief on this here game.

I have to leave b. And I'm going to leave.

>be me
>me be
>nonemployee
>hd too clean the restrms
>bazinga
>1926 all over again
>fired for misusing company property
>tfw

I apply for jobs I could easily do and still do not get them. Apparently I'm just undesirable.

you could try upwork to get something to put on your resume

Everyone I know with a CS degree has gotten a job straight out of school. Did you have a terrible GPA, no work experience, and no internships/co-ops?

This. literally impossible to be unemployed with CS degree. maybe you stink like shit in your interviews? have a shit garbage tier résumé? live in silicone valley? beats me, d00d

Just finished a two year Assoc in Auto Technologies. Did full time and work for nearly two of those I just want a break and I'm still young

Had one internship. Im guessing my references said something bad or just don't give a shit.

when i graduated college i worked shit jobs for 1.5 years before i found one that payed well and offered benefits, it just takes time user, don't kill yourself because you feel like a failure right now because i certainly thought about that too

Everyone I went to college with graduating with a CS or IS degree got a job right away or even before their graduation. Plus, you can't legally be rejected from McDonald's for over qualification...its against the law. "Overqualified" is protected under equal opportunity employment etc

I live in Los Angeles with my parents. Im thinking cause im mexican.

Its the judgement from family. I'm the first to finish college and they've been giving me shit for the past month.

Did you major in something useless in school? I mostly know engineering majors, but not a single one of them went unemployed at graduation. Even my roommate, who had a low GPA, no internships, and no relevant work experience, managed to get a job immediately.

Yeah I'm there

>finance degree, no work experience so can't get work
>go to clothing stores, more educated than managers

Not sure what to do

You must be doing something wrong. Are you only applying to super high end positions? If you don't have sufficient experience, you're not going to start off at Google. I don't know a single unemployed CS major.

i'm an EMT and majored in healthcare admin, i wanted to work in hospitals which i am now, so i know all of you IS, CS, engineering majors will talk shit but yes, my degree is not as easily employable as those majors just mentioned

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>applied to McDonalds, over qualified.

So you have a Computer science degree, but haven't figured out how to NOT TELL PEOPLE SOMETHING?
Like, if being overly qualified is your only drawback, don't tell them you're over qualified and you'll get the position.

Maybe you're just retarded.

Fell out of highschool, live pretty much in middle of nowhere.

You made the mistake of assuming a degree will immediately land you a job. There's a reason you have the summers off, so you can get some related work experience. Especially if you don't have a degree in a high-demand field, you completely shoot yourself in the foot if you don't gain some experience during your undergrad.

did you get your CS degree from the university of phoenix

>Commputer science degree

Maybe if you'd taken a course in basic English as well, you'd have better luck.

Oh the woes of the middleclass self-entitled fucks who didn't work their way through college and wonder why they can't get hired now.

If you can program you can get a job easily as long as you aren't a fucking weirdo. I don't even have a CS degree or formal training and I make money on the side programming just with stuff I learned on Codeacademy and Google.

I'm thinking it's because you can't write a single sentence with correct grammar and spelling.

I've been using indeed. Everybody keeps telling me to use Linkedin.

I was planning on taking a computer science degree, alternatively I chose Cyber Security since I was rejected from my college for super shitty attendance, but I still have a chance at taking up computer science. Which should I choose?

kek

Cyber security I've heard is the new thing

Got an email that my seasonal employment ended yesterday

> feels bad man

cyber security only assuming your background is very, VERY clean

CSULA

You're either a retard or a troll.
>graduate with a degree in CS
>before I even graduate get a job
>70k midwest
>cushy as fuck

Its one of a bunch if rising programs that are essentially computer trade school, which isnt inherently bad but should be known as far different than a compsci degree and less valuable to certain people. Its in the same vein as applied computing and IT courses

I've done a lot of blackhat stuff, but never been caught. I was arrested 3 times for vandalism, assault and theft, but that was before I was 13 and the police wiped my slate clean. So that's good enough?

You should be applying directly with the companies themselves. Sure, you can get scouted on sites, but it shows more initiative if you're the one directly applying.

This, but if you dont have a linkdin yet make one

I applied to weedmaps. Saw on indeed they needed programs developers

Nothing wrong with a healthcare related degree. I majored in Computer Science and Engineering so I have the double benefit of both the CS and Engineering aspects counting towards me, but I work in medical research now. I'm surprised you had such a hard time finding a job, though. Healthcare seems like a pretty open field.

"computer science degree" what kind? Software dev? Engineering? Microcontrollers? A+ repair?

I have no degree, but I knew I wanted a desk job so my first real job was data entry. They always have stupid named titles like "Data Specialist Tech II" that look good on resumes. Then I got into an internal tech support department of a big company. I taught myself to program and wrote a number of tools to help my team. Then the internal development team hired me and now I'm a software developer and engineer with no college at a fortune 500 company, 401k, stock options, salary, bonuses and some of the best employer provided healthcare possible. Only took a little over 5 years of work and 0 debt.

git gud at life pleb.

You can definitely get by as a developer by being self-taught, but you probably got somewhat lucky. There's definitely a push for having formal education, since the industry is getting more saturated. I'm actually hoping they bring in the software engineering licensing exams, since every other engineering field already expects you to be licensed as an engineer.

I have a computer science degree as well and can't get a job.

Pretty much all the local companies want senior level experience. The out of state companies never respond.

The problem you're going to run into with out of state companies is that unless you're well qualified/have a great CV, you're going to be competing with thirsty Indian and Chinese people applying for the same jobs. The companies know they have an easier time keeping those employees since they control their visas.

ya, I have a feeling that is the case. Pretty much the best way to get a job is through referrals and since I was a anti-social loser, I don't really have much of a network to ask for help.

>Can't legally be rejected for overqualified


Lmao, source??

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I'd say yes and no. I did get lucky, but I busted my ass off with about 50 different opportunities that didn't pan out until I found the one that did. The one thing I learned working in industry as a programmer is that education is about 5-10 years behind industry. Experience reigns because rarely is a team willing to slow down to teach newbies about, test driven development, agile workflows, layers, clean code principles, separation of concerns and using a source control in a team without breaking stuff. Little to none of these things are taught practically in college and when they are, it's ancient standards that need to be retaught when you get a real job. That and college seems to require java to be taught while industry really doesn't have the need for millions of java developers.

>Gets laid off from shitty factory job
>Collects unemployment, will last a year
>1000 dollars every two weeks
>Gets construction job with friend paid cash
>$17 dollars an hour
>Making decent living while only working 3 or 4 days a week
>Still being able to save for school
>Because I'm on unemployment, OSAP will cover most of school costs and I'll have a huge chunk of cash to sit on just in case
>Pretty much loving life right now
>TFW turns a negative, being laid off, into an ideal situation

How thorough are background checks? I don't mean for drugs, crime, etc., I mean for previous employers. I have a couple of bad smears in my employment history I've left off my resume.

I agree with some of that. Just a degree doesn't mean that you know how to do shit. You'll have to have had some kind of work experience while in college to really be useful.

On the Java front, I'm honestly surprised by how many places do want Java devs. We had to learn Java too, of course. And C, C++, Lisp, Python, Ruby, probably some other shit I'm forgetting. Java is definitely not one of my favorites.

TDD, everyone talks about, but I see few people utilizing due to the overhead involved unless they're in a BIG company that can afford it. Agile, eh. Nice as an idea, but I feel everyone harps on about agile and iterations and all that crap just to seem trendy.

See, and people are worried about illegal mexicans coming and taking jobs, when you're double-cheating the system harder than any of them even could.

Only difference is in Canada we have to pay into our unemployment, not sure how it works elsewhere, so technically it's my money anyway.

Income taxes are used to offset the cost of unemployment benefits. Then again, all of the money I earned is "my money", yet I still have to give the government their 25% cut.

Maybe it's just your area OP?
I normally get a call/email requesting an interview at least every other week.
But on helpful note, I would recomend trying the website indeed as well.
I used to see more junior level stuff on there than linkedin.

Java gets shit done and is dependable. C/C++ get things done but are annoying and cumbersome, Python/Ruby are beautiful and fast and all, except when you give a shit about type safety or want to reuse code that doesn't fit exactly.

I live in a 3rd world country. I make more money freelancing, microtasking and crowdworking over the Internet than a job that requires a master degree in my city.

I could get a real job in a big city, but I'd live in a tiny appartment and in my town the land and food are cheap and I live stress-free.

>computer science

Ayyyyy hmu fag lord

Indeed, Dice, LinkedIn, Glassdoor, etc.

I think I applied to my current job on Dice. I was rejected by four or five companies before getting the job, which really is not much compared to friends outside of CS. I still feel like I know fucking nothing half the time. Keep trying.

also Python and Ruby are slow as molasses

I've been trying for the past three summers to find an EE internship but can't for the life of me get one measly job to put on my resume.

Iktf man. Graduated last year. I understand. They've gone from encouraging and compassionate, to bitter and annoying. If I don't get a job soon I'm gonna start getting yelled at. Inb4 hurr surr being scared of parents telling. Its not that. Its the fucking bitching that is irritating as fuck.

True, I rationalize it with the fact that I've always had a job and worked hard for what I have and when I'm an electrician, the government will make a killing off my wage. Either way no fucks given on my part.

Agile is stupid only if the people using it are stupid. It is usually miles above the blank slate that waterfall can be.

Pretty much in the same boat as you, cept not a Comp Sci major. I hate how if you don't have a degree, you're underqualified, but if you do have or are working on a degree, you're 'overqualified.' TF do they want?

Whatever. I'm trying to move overseas to live and work. Might as well, since that's where so many jobs are going anyway.

>try to an hero with pain meds, benzos, and booze
>wake up in isolation cell
>get out of jail
>find out I tried to drive
>crashed into parked car
>totaled car
>get fired from job for using company insurance card
>still want to an hero

If I posted my resume here could someone legit give me some advice on if its shit?

I'm black and I have a job

I will.

>22
>dropped out of college
>had a sweet barista job at our local science center
>paid minimum but got diagnosed with testicular cancer on march 1st
>boss won't let me come back because she need a "reliable employee who won't call off"

thank you user. I've been trying for a long time to get a summer EE internship. I think the problem is with me because I've been passed up countless times over the past 3 years

I'm going to milk these student loans for all I can get. I'm good at school. I like it. And i'll miss these days later. I'm aware of the massive amount of debt i'll be digging myself into, but i'm going for at least one professorship which should end up paying me 50-100 grand a year with summers off. I'll be able to pay off student loans. So i'm going to put off real work for as many years as I can.

I did a BSc in Computing and
I've just finished an MSc in Cyber Security and now looking for a job. I keep reading about the massive shortage of Cyber Security people in the world, but i'm finding it surprisingly difficult to get a foot in the door. Pondering about going Black Hat.

fuck yall. i just got a job.

The job market will be flooded soon enough with professional skiddies like yourself.

Any advice on this? Anybody?

"overqualified" is misleading
what they meant is "rubbed me the wrong way in the interview"

Cancer in your twenties? I'm truely sorry man.

Very wordy. Looks like a book. Very impressive achievements and accolades tbqh. Without using bullet points, try cutting down on words. Also, use measurable achievements . Instead of saying say "organized multiple files and stocked photos" you awould say "allocated over 100 files a day and 500 photos a day for easier access" . Also add some out of job activities. One that would somehow relate to your job but shows you are open minded and diverse. Like a job were you were manager to show responsibility

it's all good Sup Forumsro. i started chemo earlier this week and it's taken a lot out of me so far. but honestly, the worst part about it was having to move back home with my family, and having to drop $400 to go to the sperm bank

False. As a manger of McDs who are u more likely to hire. John who while may be punctual and polite, will likely end up leaving once he gets a better job. Or Jamal, who while laxy and usually late, will never disobey and wont quit because he needs money for weed

Thanks for the advice man. In terms of out of job activities, what do you mean exactly? I haven't had any types of managerial jobs or internships (that's what I'm trying to get, I just need someone to give me that first chance). I did have a couple odd jobs in high school but not much to speak of outside of giving guitar lessons. What do you recommend?

Hey genius. They can just choose to hire someone else. It's not illegal to say "Wow you're a bit overqualified."

Stay clear of posting high school jobs. I would try to incorporate guitar lessons near the bottom of experience. It shows your character and identity. Something to talk about in the interview as well.

Was about to write a post but this guy basically nailed it. More numerical and solid points about experience. Don't include 30 meh things when you could include 3-5 extremely strong projects with regards to your Academic Project Experience.

Further, under "Member of USC Formula..." The last sentence is too short to serve a purpose and needs to be either reworded or included in the previous sentence. You could provide more detail into your current electronics work into the steering wheel. Just some quick thoughts.

DUnno man. I'm still studying CS in germany at a regular University and still got a lot of offers even while being just a student. They pay you about 21 Euro for part-time á hour here for 15-20 hrs/week.
Did I mention we don't have much debt as well?

Just git your gig up. Github portfolio, assets and relevcant skills like Github, design patterns, projects, docker, programming...

>never worked a day in my life
>wrote 4 applications
>4 instant offers in respectable companies (IBM and consulting and banking offers)

I would also cut down on wordiness, but I think bullet points are useful. they can help the reader separate things visually. I would also remove bold from the subheaders, maybe make them italics if you still want them somewhat different, or just partially bold. I also would prefer the headers to be larger font, and I would remove the underline and colon. Here is a shitty suggestion by a site that claims to know about resumes (though they are obsessed with centering and other dumb things)
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This. Just to give you an idea, instead of.
>worked at this office
>answered phones and handled customers and organized files and handled deliveries
Write something notable like
>worked at office
>created welcome brochures that reduced answered customers questions and reduced call waiting times

Like don't detail every single thing. Highlight an achievement. Hopefully measurable