EU: IN or OUT Britain?

EU: IN or OUT Britain?

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In

because I'm not some pleb that forms his opinions from the sun and daily mail.

Also I have a okay grasp of how economies and trade works.

Also not a massive closet racist

Going to vote for OUT

Ben Garrison is a racist tub thumper who would suck Alex Jones' cock in a heartbeat and has Trump footage on his phone for bath time. [/thread]

England should leave, Scotland should stay.
UK is basically London, and that's quite unfair to the other countries, especially since Scotland got oil.

England would probably do well on their own if they ally more with USA, but regarding OP's picture they got the same problems.

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IN

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That oil isn't worth shit at the moment. And it tapped by English.

The world has significantly changed over the past 120 years. Empires and colonies have diminished in reality by their idea is sill going strong. Countries with ambition to expand have changed their ways from conquering lands or other countries with troops and soldiers, and replaced that with economical occupation. Economy, wealth, money and power go hand in hand, you might have the man power,but if you dont have the economical strength to mobilize those troops, feed them, create wars for them, sustain them, then they are as good as not being there at all. Companies these days would prefer to sell themselves to other bigger companies in order to survive, other who wish to compete and not sell out, are left alone to fight a battle not only with its competitors but with governments who are promoting "free market" idea and that corporates should dominate while smaller, mid size companies and family companies need to be taken out.
Power comes with unity. The Uk, Germany, or any other European country will not be better off alone. The EU will suffer from having the UK leave, but it will not suffer as much as the UK itself will suffer. Being isolated is not the way to go in this current world of ours.

Im not sure but hasnt Scotland said they will votale again for independence if UK votes OUT because they want to stay in the EU?

Personally i think we should reform EU instead of leaving it.

>And it tapped by English
:(

>I'm not some pleb
>makes racism the issue

pick one

Every government since the last referendum has talked about reforming the EU. It doesn't happen.

The EU only "reforms" in one direction, taking more power from the nation state and handing it to the EU level. The end goal has always been a united states of europe and that isn't going to change.

>mentioning racism is the same as making it the entire issue

Okay.

I'm happy to team up with other countries, but it has to be beneficial. Seeing the guilt-trip countries like France and Germany are undergoing since WW2, teaming up with them means being weaker in the mid- and long-term.

The immediate short-term economic advantages shouldn't fool us into staying with these very culturally sick people.

Okay.

>Terrorists
They're already here.

>Close the borders
We don't have open borders.

>Point system
Just because you make it harder to get in does not make every citizen a fucking combat medic. A lot of English lower class are horrible, inbred and if they were any thicker, they'd set - and too pride to work shit jobs. We're fucked if we start kicking out European workers.

Is immigration to UK really because of EU? I thought most people who immigrate to UK are from outside EU, Middle east, Africa and former colonies. Will it really help to leave EU?

Laughable. First of all it's a horrendously shit trade deal. It's more about protectionism than it is about trade. We're a net importer from the EU and extra-EU exports are are biggest growing export market. We're also the only country that has greater trade outside the EU than inside. It fundamentally doesn't make sense for us to be unable to negotiate our own trade deals with our fastest growing markets.

Also race? You really are a moronic cuck. EU immigration policy is in itself demonstrably racist. We give infinitely higher preference to Europeans than we do to the rest of the worlds population which happen to be mostly brown. Leaving the EU is actually the least racist option.

Also you're a massive fucking cuck.

Fuck lol.

I'm high as fuck, let it ride.

get the hell out before its too late britain, love from norway

>We don't have open borders

If a country within the Unions gives away free passports to every lowlife in the third word, we do de facto have open borders.

Under Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union, if Britain votes to leave, it will have two years to negotiate trade agreements with the remaining 27 countries in the EU. The free trade and the free market will still be a thing, UK will just be free from Berlin's rule. UK should vote leave.

t. european, non-Brit, MSc in economics

>In

>Also I have a okay grasp of how economies and trade works.

No, you're just fucking retarded or you're payed shill.

I raped a muslim male yesterday. I say keep them coming, I am more than happy to keep punishing them. Muslims turn me on, that moment when you violate them in the worst way possible. I hope he kills himself from the shame.

Swissfag here. Get the fuck out of this soviet style mess, Great Britain. It's perfectly possible to make business with the EUSSR while not having to jump in the volcano with them.

Caring about not letting your country turn into a third world shithole = racist. Western civilization is doomed.

indeed

Very much this. Don't be idiots, Britbongs. Don't let yourself be scared into staying in Yurup by a bunch of rich bureaucrats.

>not a pleb
>plays the racism card

pick 1

>leaving will cause house prices to drop

OUT

As a European I'll ask all inbred brits to vote OUT. I was in Newcastle upon Tyne and studied. UK really is a shit hole... In addition, I hope we can kick out the southern Europe mudslime eu-niggers. Fucking South Europe is cancer and should be cut away.

>Cuck
Any opinion instantly invalid well done man

Leftists and people who support this idea are doomed. Don't lose hope, user, life always finds a way. And the nihilists that promote political correctness will eradicate themselves before they can kill our civilization as a whole.

i'm voting out for thee chaos that will ensue afterwords

The only people that get mad about the "race card" are racists.

Hilarious.

Don't do it Britians!
I'm from Poland and we are fucked without u in EU XDDD

Yeh it's that easy, that's why they're floating over the sea on a fucking refrigerator door. Every country has a weak link in the offices for citizenship, you can get a passport from anywhere if you have the money. It's not stopping terrorism either, they are born here.

you can't get out of having your pathetic cuck argument shot down that easily i'm afraid.

>The only people that get mad about the "race card" are racists.

The only people who use the race card are nihilists and useful idiots. Not as hilarious as it is pathetic.

Why did you choose to go to Newcastle? Could you not afford to live in the actual nice parts of the UK? Where are you from?

Problem is, the crooks and cucks in charge are afraid to address the problem. If the EU breaks up slowly, we'll finally get a say in how we want to handle our own destiny again.

Obviously this guy wasn't smart enough to go study in the nice places, like Oxbridge.

You don't go to uni for the scenery you numb cunt. Bradford University is one of the country's best, and it's possibly the worst place to live.

Lol
Then what does that make the people who accuse others of it?

I mean, you can't lie and say that most people are voting out for economic reasons. Most out'ers are just dumb and racist pure and simple. Why do you think retard-newspapers like the sun promote leaving?
Why the salt?
We're staying. It's gonna happen

>Bradford University is one of the country's best
fucking lol

no, but he's judging the UK based on the fact that he knowingly chose a shitty place to go and live, probably because it was cheaper.

why is leaving racist? we'd actually have an immigration policy that treats Europeans and non-Europeans equally. sounds pretty non-racist to me.

>Then what does that make the people who accuse others of it?

Manipulators. Wanting to live in a culture that more or less unified doesn't make you a racist. At all.

People don't want uncontrolled immigration from people that'll live off benefits: it doesn't make them racist at all. If you think so, it means you are either stupid, or just plain dishonest.

People who defend immigration are, quite interestingly, working for the rich 1% who need cheap work force. The racism argument is simply a scarecrow supposed to force people into buying into the constitution of a new slave-like class in the West, that'll be chained to dead end jobs against which no social reform will be able to do anything (look at France, Germany, the US, for instance).

Maybe the UK will stay in Europe, but then it'll have sold its soul to muh moneh, because of fear of being called racist. Good luck with that.

Cheaper? I imagine he was there when it was 3.6k per year. Standard housing for students is the same all across the country, 320~pcm.

Anyone who shouts "racism" at every street corner is subject to a social psychosis, it's nothing to be taken seriously, if you want a rational discussion.

Germany here, we're sick of your shit, fuck off already, you'll probably be fine.

If we leave then the EU will collapse. The entire continent will be carnage, it'll be brilliant. All the fat fucks in the EU parliament will get absolutely shat on by their home countries.

Voting to leave will be our revenge against these arseholes. Ruin their lives like they have tried to ruin ours, hit them back twice as hard as they hit us.

RACISM

>Germany here, we're sick of your shit

Likewise. Good luck with your muslim majority in two generations, if that.

You do that.

UK IS NOT PART OF THE SCHENGEN AREA YOU FUCKING INVALID

it's cute you think your vote matters

And?

>American conservatives praise capitalism yet ignore that Global Business and regional trade and business groups like the EU and NAFTA are a part of capitalism.

Why couldn't you dumb Jerry fucks win WWII, and we wouldn't have this terrorism problem now.

You are a tool

/threading your own post get outta here

You stupid fucking cunt. Britain will collapse outside the EU.

OUT
FUCKING OUT

Out of everyone in this thread saying one or the other, are you actually going to vote?

OUT
U
T

At least I'm voting to leave the EU.

>implying the EU actually benefits England's economy

Implying the EU is helping UKs Capitalism instead of hamstringing it

I would leave EU and NATO if m country had a chance

voting leave

As EU member the British have:

a) pushed for eastern expansion
b) pushed for freedom of movement for eastern european member states
c)blocked every effort to make the EU more democratic

they now want to leave because of these very things.

The result of the referendum will be determined by decades of British politicians using the EU as a scape goat and tool against their own population. Those politicians will continue to fuck you regardless of your EU membership.

In, people don't understand how much they rely on eu. As far as pakis and southern eu immigration is a problem. This isn't the solution for it.

>Germany here, we're sick of your shit, fuck off already, you'll probably be fine

>tfw we have a massive trade deficit with you
>tfw our growth has been like 2-3x higher for years now
>tfw you have merkel and are getting literally cucked by muslims at an unprecedented rate
>tfw your currency is about to go down the shitter

NAFTA, GATT , TPP etc, are not capitalism,
they are crony capitalistic agreements that only work with socialism at the local (national) level.
In a true capitalist, constitutional system these things would never come into being.

Capitalism in its pure form allows the laborer to keep what he earned from his own labor.
In a soclialist, crony capitalist society an overgrown government steals everything from the laborer, doles some chickenfeed to the poor so the poor become footsoldiers in the government's social armies waging war against the middle class and the rest of the money gets doled out to crony capitalists.
You have just learned that crony capitalists cannot function without a government that they own that steal from the middle class/blue collar class and gives to and protects the rich.

Its in. The people voting out are fucking idiots. We will be financially better off in than out. The only people voting out are the UKIP racists.

This, all the """"conspiracy theories"""" preidcted thismsince the 80s.

Can the UK self sustain? I doubt it being an island.

This is the same as southern US states threatening to succeed. Only one of them could survive without the Federal governments nipples and that is TX.

Is UK TX?

Go for it you'll get 40-45% max

As a non-bong i realy hope they will leave EU. They always had the be the special kid in class. Time for them to learn special is a different name for retarded.

Yeah, you're right. Most immigrants are from outside.

Reminder for what will happen if we stay

thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/leaked-uk-plan-to-open-doors-for-1m-turks-n085h225w

i feel the same. it would be catastrophical for them to actually leave, so i say let them. the brits are cunts anyways

NAFTA is a fucking free trade agreement which means the government cant tax imports and exports to those nations.

NAFTA is a literal example of pure capitalism you retarded fuck.

why?

Might suffice.

Yeah but you'll have 4,500 pounds less earnings.

self-sustain? our exports outside of the EU outweighs our exports inside the EU. We're the only EU country that has an economy like that. We're also hamstringed by the fact that we can't negotiate our own trade deals with our biggest export market because we're in the EU. The EU has negotiated hardly any decent trade deals with non-EU countries because it's all about rampant protectionism. We're actually being dragged down because they're trying to protect they're own shitty economies.

The EU is an economic suicide pact. It never benefited the Brits and has been a huge drag on them and a very one sided deal for them. I hope the vote Out, and wouldn't blame them.

you don't understand, the EU wants the UK to receive immigrants that are coming from the middle east, other european immigrants are welcome because they don't just leech off the country

wow, did that come straight out of your ass?

>thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/leaked-uk-plan-to-open-doors-for-1m-turks-n085h225w

fucking hell

Once you are out of the EU they can create agreements with outer countries to hike up your import prices and deny your exports. They will do it to because it would help the EU as a whole even if it destroys UKs economy.

>life always finds a way
it will without the humans when we're long gone and nothing will be left

Newcastle is one of the nice parts. Every other city is an industrialised polluted shithole filled with poor scum. Newcastle has parks and country walks everywhere. Its a nice looking city, there's lots of Victorian and medieval buildings and the uni campus is lovely. Anyone saying otherwise is lying because people are always racist against northerners. Only difference is Newcastle isn't like the rest of the north.

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>thetimes
>Times Newspapers, since 1981 a subsidiary of News UK, itself wholly owned by the News Corp group headed by Rupert Murdoch.

>Headed by Rupert Murdoch...

NAFTA allows for unrestricted free trade,
which would constitute absolute capitalism indeed, however in a constitutional society the trade with other, less free societies or societies not adhering to fair trade practices would be subject to tariffs and rightfully so. The parliament could impose these tariffs on the basis of currency manipulation, less environmental regulation etc.
This is the very problem we have today.
Socialism for the masses (EU, china and increasingly the US) and capitalism for the ultra rich in these countries.
The working man gets taxed into a position where he can no longer compete with the ultra rich and thus the society becomes the antithesis of classical capitalism
You resorting to name calling somehow implies I do not understand this , while it is obvious you didn't grasp the depth of my post.