Dear Amerifags:

Dear Amerifags:
I'm hearing very negative things about both Clinton and Trump taking office, nothing good. If everybody hates both of the nominees for president, then how are they the nominees?

because the vast majority of voters in the US do not internet well and will vote for someone that they read false information about and do no fact checking.

Because they fucking cheat. There is no democratic process, only people who buy the presidency.

This.

In the case of my parents, they think Hill is legit, even though they have reviewed none of her past history, and think just cause she was a good speaker back in 2008 she is fit to run.

Brainwashed by the Democrats (myself independent)

Other side is politicallied roofied by everything.

Clinton is a member of the political elite and used the System to her advantage, and was basically coronated from the start. Trump on the other hand, used his 40+ years of media spotlight experience and persuasion skills to beat 17 other candidates starting with a less than 1% chance of success, and worked his way to the top the hard way. He earned his spot, Clinton was given her spot.

Bonus, they haven't even watched the debates.

Yep.

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And yet Trump supports Clinton. There's really no difference between the two.

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The Democrats are great at propaganda and brainwashing. The schools and media are almost entirely left-leaning and lay it on thick. They also pander to minorities, especially blacks who sre completely dependant on the system. This creates hordes of dem-zombies who are too weak to resist their programming. These mobs will vote Democrat every time, because they think republicans are evil. Ask them any question or criticize their policies and you will receive insults...nothing more, nothing less. Never an explanation.

The rest of us will do everything in our power to make sure our kids can grow up in a safe and secure environment. That means stopping democrats. Which means we vote for the best people available to do that: republicans.

And that is how the two party system thrives.

How, because he was paid to go their wedding?

According to the left wing media, that's what they think

>OH HE HAD THEM COME TO HIS WEDDING SO THAT MEANS HE SUPPORTS HILLARY

No.

The Repulblicans are great at propaganda and brainwashing. The gun clubs and biggest news orginization are extreme right-wing and lay it on thick. They also pander to uneducated, especially southerners who sre completely dependant on the system. This creates hordes of repub-zombies who are too weak to resist their programming. These mobs will vote Republican every time, because they think democrats are evil. Ask them any question or criticize their policies and you will receive insults...nothing more, nothing less. Never an explanation.

The rest of us will do everything in our power to make sure our kids can grow up in a safe and open environment. That means stopping republicans. Which means we vote for the best people available to do that: democrats.

And that is how the two party system thrives.

Clinton is highly connected, a powerful minority backs (and loves) Trump

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actually, the establishment doesn't really like the guy knowing he doesn't have a shot. It's the minority of regular folks that love and support him. Because he hates what they hate, even if he doesn't explain how he's going to get anything done, he can pander like a king. You gotta respect that.

It really isnt a minority of people if he's pulling in record number of votes.

Because there are idiots on both sides of the political party.

So did Bern, but he didn't have a shot either. The field on the Repub side was so weak they created this monster that took away their years of relying on the fact that the extreme right wingers would vote for their less extreme candidate because they wouldn't actually put anyone forward that openly talks about how shitty non white people are. The monster is created and when almost 70% of the country hates the guy, it doesn't matter that 30% really love him. C'est la vie.

eh, basically the debates (and the current condition of the country during those debates) will decide things.

>I.plying you couldn't replace "republican" with "democrat" and "right wing " with "left wing"

This is just how they like it. An illusion of a choice. Liberals are subhuman filth jumping on the bandwagon of PC culture and conservatives are misguided by those they trust. Both sides exploit poverty and ignorance and if you don't think democrats do you are a total fucking retard with the intellect of an HIV infected jizz rag.

>mfw libtard will cry because someone thinks dems are worse

there was never a democratic process. the country is a constitutional republic. true democracy would be a nightmare.

>if you don't think democrats do you are a total fucking retard with the intellect of an HIV infected jizz rag.
Well, I was on the fence on which way to go, but I think I'm voting for you now! Trump almost has your articulation, but you sir, are the real Trump trumper.

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I would add that none of the candidates that were put forward by the RNC were worth a shit.

Cruz was Trump without the name-brand status, Kasich was a nobody who only won his home state, Rubio was a talking suit, Bush sucked, and everyone else you couldn't distinguish from a hole in the wall.

Dubs confirm this guy is correct.

>hurr durr don't like dems must be trump supporter

Some nice assumptions there, dumb fuck . I knew the uneducated libtard would be so wrapped up in my criticisms of dems that they wouldn't even notice that I said that the choice between two parties is nothing but the "illusion of a choice." I don't support anything political because it doesn't matter. Fucking idiot.

Because the average voter is mildly retarded. They do not care and do not bother to be informed.

Republicans = Idiotic racist redneck bible thumping gun totting jackasses.

Democrats = Idiotic thug-life lovin' white people hatin' feminazi bible hatin' gun totting mass murdering atheists satanic jackasses.

I hate both groups.

listen dubs master, as you see when I said I was on the fence, I mean I'm just like you. On the fence. But I was merely confirming the illusion of choice that you pointed out when I made my post as well. Especially with these two. Economically they're actually going about things pretty similarly. But I'm for sure giving you my vote. Two idiots up there don't compare to your deduction skills. I just hope you're not a shitty Canadian like Ted or from Africa like Obama. You sound like a true 'Murican.

Son, I am proud.

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You know, my black older neighbor compared him to Hitler and it kinda pissed me off. He said he never voted for Reagan either and I assume he voted for Obama twice. Are you black or Mexican by any chance?

for fucks sake, take your tinfoil hat off and go outside so that the government drones can finally put you out of your misery, you pathetic lunatic.

>shit talking only republicunts
>"dems are best to save our children"
>"oh actually they're kinda the same and I'm on the fence"

Do forgive me for smelling a bit of damage control.

Then what are you?

Its not quite that everyone hates both the nominees.

Hilary is hated because Bernie fans are convinced that she stole the election by sacrificing babies or something and Republicans don't like Democrats.

Trump is hated because a lot of Republican's aren't as right-wing as him, a lot of Republican politicians are afraid he's going to hurt them down ballot, and Democrats don't like Republicans.

They both have a majority of their respective parties that like them, but a minority of half their party and the entirety of the other party means that they're going to be hated by a majority of everyone.

its not crazy when you actually look at whats in Obamacare and Common Core.

Did you not see that was a copy pasta of the comment I replied to? Just to hightlight how interchangeable these arguments are. I'm sorry, seems this was all a misunderstanding on your part. I should have made a sarcastic label, I'll do that the next time.

You really think that's the ONLY reason why Hillary is hated?

The US is not a democracy

It's a rigged system

Or Hillary is hated because unlike you people arent 14 and remember her time in office as a fucking disaster.

We all want Bernie, but the election process is rigged in America

I'm not going to go into the intricate details as to why Dems hate Trump or Reps hate Hillary. I'd nuke the thread.

right, death panels in the fine print and secret communist messages hidden in the math homework. I thought I told you to take the hat off and go outside? If you are outside, don't get impatient: The fucking drones are always late now, probably because they are built in China and piloted by illegal immigrants.

>We all want Bernie
Only underage faggot incapable of voting wanted him.

Kind of the reason why he lost

>copypasta argument

Yeah youre right , I must be the idiot.

>still damage control

>extreme right wingers supported trump
not true, the most extreme right wingers supported Ted Cruz
>the field on the republican side was weak
not true either, you had several strong candidates but they split the electorate up too much. Basically you had too many good candidates -unlike dems. If Joe Binden had run and Dems had less superdelegates (to make the conditions similar to how it was for the Repubs), Bernie would have had a much better chance. Trump supporters were just more dedicated.
>Republicans created the monster of Trump
not really true. The Republican party to the attitude of "let the chips fall where they may" and didn't try to manipulate things as bad as the Dems. People are so angry at what Obama and traditional politicians have done that they have come into the Republican party to elect someone who will supposedly change it.

>too many good candidates
Like? Please I'm genuinely curious.

>The Republican party to the attitude of "let the chips fall where they may"
Bullshit they flat out kept a state from voting to try and make him lose momentum right before the east coast.

The entire RNC tried to band together to fuck him out of the nomination but Trump brought in too many new voters to the party that what the RNC wanted didn't matter.

We have partisan politics, and for each party there is a committee (DNC democrats and GOP republicans). Committees pick their nominee, or who they think should be president (aka who represents the party's interests), from their party. Trump and Hillary and the nominees, so it's assumed they'll be only the ones with a chance as most voters will vote for their party's nominee. Also, the media won't talk about anyone else now.
And the masses pick candidates based on personality and not policy. Dems are thinking "the Clinton 90's were great! Re elect Bill... I mean Hillary..." or "we need a woman in the white house." Repubs are thinking "Trump is so strong, make america great again, yeah" or "He's saying what I'm... i mean everyone else... is too scared to say!"
Basically it's a pandering contest and the elected president doesn't follow through on their promises, and america acts shocked, even though it happens every election cycle.

This

No worries, good sir. I don't really have skin in the game, nor am I worried. Two unworthy candidates in the end, the system shall march on crushing the uneducated and minority masses both parties rely on. And on that note, I must go contribute to society, so have a wonderful evening, Mr. Idiot and suck on a huge dog nut, but just one. If you manage to go through a day without swearing you may suck on two testicles tomorrow.

This shows the big picture problem that both party's are pandering pieces of shit and it's the only choice we have. This is why we need more than 2 parties that actually have a chance of winning so the people can choose again.

Because we are stuck with a two party system with two really shitty parties

Well maybe if the third party choices were better, there would be a chance.

>implying that it matters what the general public want in any country

You can vote dem or republican or for a third party. But on the ballot, you'll be given the option for either party's nominee or local politicians, referendum, some other initiative. You can vote for these but they never win. So you're essentially left with the options: D or R, Hillary or Trump.

>If everybody hates both of the nominees for president
Trump is literally the most popular republican candidate of all time.

This belongs in cringe. Fat neckbeard pony lovers are the only ones who speak so bombasticly.

Inb4 ad hominem attack

Its not even hidden. With common core, you cant even opt your kid out of sex ed, because they put it in other courses that you cant not take, but thats not the only thing. Maybe you should take the time to read up on it yourself, before jumping to ad hominem and no real argument.

How's his approval when not asking republicans?

Asking the wrong question.

The question should be "What happens when you control for population growth?"

Ok pal, we get it, you're angsty and pissed at the world

Rubio for the "young, inclusive party" vote.
Bush for the progressive republican vote
Ted Cruz for the constitutional conservative vote
Rand Paul for the libertarian vote.
etc.

They were for the most part, on the same level as any of the dem candidates in abilities of being a politician (not talking about policy here). They just couldn't match Trumps bombastic style, charisma, ability to use media to their advantage. The majority of Repubs didn't like Trump but that majority couldn't agree on an opposition.

I don't disagree with you but you got to remember that they are looking at the majority of registered republican voters who don't like Trump. My point was that the Republicans have set their system up as a much more "let the chips fall" than the Democrats have. Both Trump and his detractors in the RNC have used the system of who gets to be the nominee in the Republican party to their advantage.

This needs to be as a per captia thing. The population is high, so this is misleading data.

Thanks friendo

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? OP claimed he wasn't popular yet he had more votes than any other candidate in the republican parties history.

You would be hard pressed to find any candidate that didn't have a large amount of people who hated him, that does not mean they aren't popular.

Little Marco was such a fucking pussy.

Yeah this is why no one likes republicans, right here.

Total fucking assholes.

Nice ad hominem, numb nuts.

>the majority of registered republican voters who don't like Trump
Yet the republican party had nearly double the amount of votes than it had last election with the lions share going to Trump.

OK, I definitely see your point here.

Everyone had Rubio v Bush leading into it, so I can see what you're getting at. Rubio just got exposed during debates and Bush kinda just let Trump beat on him for a while without hitting back at all.

I feel like Rand Paul occupies the same place as Bernie Sanders. They're not really part of the party but they associate with the party because they line up more with them and can't really go 3rd party if they want any shot at being elected.

Cruz would have been good for that slot, but he kinda got dragged into the same arena as Trump and lost because he didn't have the name recognition that Trump has.

>majority of registered republican voters who don't like Trump
Zodiac Killer was unquestionably the least liked candidate going into the election. The amount of people he put out of work because of the shutdown is the reason why even Kasch beat him on the east coast.

but would that have happened if Kasich had been in the mix between Trump and Cruz?

hadn't*

Name recognition. Americans are comfortable with people they know--even if they don't like them. Obama was an anomaly. Hardly ever happens. Newfags don't usually become President over here.

It's the USA, their political system has been hideously broken since its inception. None of the people in political positions do anything about it, because they want to abuse it for themselves more than they want to stop their opponents from abusing it. None of the people without political positions do anything about it because they don't give a flying fuck so long as they get their basic pandering (see: gun rights, gay rights, der 'conermy, taxes).

People thought we needed "change" after bush, that change came in the form of color. Now we had "change", and people think we need "progressivism" which will come in the form of gender.
>moral of the story people are fucking stupid

Trump only won because so many candidates were running. Had the field narrowed earlier he would have been defeated. He won the majority of the primary in very few states, but was able to win anyway. His xenophobic, racist rants riled up his largely uneducated base. That only accounts for about 40% of republicans. The other 60% were split between Cruz, Rubio, Carson, etc. Had it been a two man race early on the 60% would have won.

Many people don't hate Trump; Hillary has a vagina and is a corrupt whore.

There. That's all you need to know, really.

The opposite you moron. Its harder to get a majority with more candidates.

If by lion's share you mean 46% against only Cruz/Rubio/Kasich and while also counting the 9 primaries that Trump was effectively running unopposed.

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What has Hillary done in office?
>Lied about our soldiers dying
>selling uranium to russia with the money going to her bank account
>email fiasco
>Benghazi

What has Donald Trump done so far in office:
>Nothing yet


Donald trump is the clear choice here from those above unbiased facts alone.

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because they are part of the ruling class.... sanders was a viable alt but closed primaries prevent the oligarchy from genuinely being threatened , America hasn't existed for decades, its just an idea that the ruling class whore out to keep people quiet.

Hitler
>ordered the deaths of jews

Trump
>said words

Yep same guy.

If you aren't a filthy illegal immigrant you have nothing to fear.

Well they're just muslims.

Better don't choke on trump's cock

Trump did nothing wrong.

Hitler did nothing wrong so I don't get what you are trying to say the problem is.
Fuck off back to your tumblr hugbox

She was a very good Secretary of State.

She spent most of her time putting our alliances back together after the disastrous bush/Cheney reign of error.

Now, Trumpler wants to ditch our allies in favor of Putin.

It's weird that you're impressed by what you can have if you inherit millions.

Sanders was too big a pussy to call Hillary out on her corruption and lawbreaking and contented himself to steal hundreds oif millions from retards welfare check.

But hey thanks for giving him the 130 million dollars he spent on the vacation to rome.

Pick the lesser of two evils.

The system is fucked.
Trump will bring out jaded voters who stopped voting over the years because of said system.

here is your (you):
>Trump = Hitler
So when exactly did Trump become a socialist that wants to take everyone's guns?

except hitler was hailed as Time magazine's man of the year for bringing germany out of the depression. He was a great administrator and stopped bankers from charging interest on loans (just a flat rate instead). Without the war hitler would've turned germany into the world superpower.

This. Both are shit.

trump doesnt want anything in particular , he just thinks he should be president , he has no solid positions on anything, i just hope that the democrats have the balls to disrupt him like the republicans resisted obama.....fuck sake, this isnt the way its supposed to be