DHS released a statement yesterday stating that the REAL THREAT to everyday Americans is right-wing extremists, and the sheer number of guns held by these groups.
Conservitards are in damage control mode trying to make the connection that somehow the Orlando shooting was Islamic terror.
Politicize tragedies much?
It was a hate crime perpetrated by a mentally unstable individual with too many guns. The evidence is quite clear, yet the spin masters on the right want to keep pushing a false agenda.
We need to make sweeping changes to how and *if* guns are sold to civilians. I understand we have the 2nd amendment, but it needs to be reasonable.
Why is the American right-wing so obsessed with "muh guns"?
Gabriel Harris
Actually it is you liberals who are the ones that are in serious damage control mode.
All I see from you guys is "gun control" when clearly it was an act of terrorism and hatred motivated by Islamic beliefs.
Tyler Rogers
Two different opinions on what the motive was. Why can't people come to a consensus on what happened? Because this all got wrapped in some bullshit political bias, these threads are stupid because they go nowhere.
Hudson Russell
>All I see
all you see is what fox nooze, donald trump, and conservative talk radio tells you to see. that is the problem with why conservatives even exist, they can't think for themselves, and have to be told what to do and think.
if what you believe is even partially true, then please explain why this shooting boosted hillary clinton in the polls? because she is tough on gun control, and trump is not.
Blake Ortiz
Exactly a country controlled by fear is a quiet country
Ryder Butler
Why don't people simply look at the facts? It's not like it's rocket science or anything. Simple logic is all that is needed.
Camden Ward
Both sides are using fear. One side, fear of guns, the other side fear of terrorism.
Nathaniel Moore
Ofc they're going to blame the right; the right wingers want to abolish the DHS altogether so...
Brayden Hill
Guns is the only rational fear of the two.
David Sanchez
Guns should be respected, terrorists need to be feared, and dealt with.
Sure you can't eliminate all terrorism, but you could at least admit where 90% of it stems from, and then begin to fix the problem.
John Long
It's been confirmed that he was an extremist; he posted on his FB that he was doing it in retaliation for the bombings in afghanistan. You're not too bright are you?
Evan Flores
>where 90% of it stems from
90% in recent history
Zachary Hughes
Phobias are by definition, irrational. You emotionally unstable cuck.
Owen Sullivan
However the fear of terrorism leads also to the fear of guns. Guns a just another tool made to kill like the sword. I dont fear guns in the right hands i fear when theyare in the wrong hands. And obviously it wasnt the gun stores fault the fbi cleared him so what can you do? Start treating people guilty till inoccent? There are many lies and liars floating around.
Henry Allen
>confirmed
By Fox news? or by Rush Limbaugh?
Cameron Davis
Puppets on the right and puppets on the left. Both accuse the other of lacking processes of critical thought; both are, themselves, up to their necks in ideology.
>all sheep, no shepherds.
Luis Richardson
The killer didn't call 9-1-1 and say he was going on a killing spree because 'there are too many guns in America.' He said he was doing it 'for ISIS' Case closed.
Jackson Long
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Brody Stewart
No actual evidence of him actually saying that exists. Only speculation.
So until official 911 recordings are released that can confirm this, it is a non-issue.
We can speculate all day long, but in the end it will get us nowhere.
Until then, what do we know? It was another mass shooting, like Sandy Hook, Aurora movie theaters, etc.. These all have only 2 factors in common. Guns, and the crazy person using them.
Kevin Ortiz
Sorry. Actual evidence of him saying that DOES in fact exist. You cannot deny it just because the authorities are not handing you the audio file. You can sandbag reality all that you want; however, the fact is: Islamic fundamentalism is a danger to the Western world and IS most certainly the issue at hand.
Levi Diaz
One of the most fundamental insights of psychoanalysis is that even the most brutal expressions of violence are the result of a semiotic deadlock within the symbolic order.
Even the total elimination of guns would, at best, only temporarily delay the inevitable. And, perhaps, for the moment, that would be a productive initiative.
However, as a society, if we truly want to prevent acts of extreme violence, we need to resolve those contradictions which are inherent in the social order.
Austin Edwards
all you see is what CNN, NBC, ABC, John Oliver, Hollywood celebrities, and NPR radio tells you to see. that is the problem with why liberals even exist, they can't think for themselves, and have to be told what to do and think.
if what you believe is even partially true, then please explain why this shooting boosted donald trump in the polls? because he is tough on Muslims immigrating here from countries associated with Islamic terrorism, and hillary is not.
>muh conservative platitudes >muh liberal platitudes
You're just as spoonfed as the guy you're "arguing with". Pro-tip: Establishment Democrats and Republicans are both wanting to keep things the way they are so they can all get rich being career politicians/puppets for the mega wealthy elite.
Have fun screaming "red team" at people screaming "blue team", you imbeciles.
Lucas Diaz
Look it up fuckboi
Jackson Torres
Right wingers watch their own version of the news. Left wingers watch their own version of the news.
Their language is starting to diverge, it's getting to the point where it's like they're viewing two different parallel realities, relative to one another. That's what televisions do to people. They're boxing themselves into increasingly smaller points of view, because it's never occurred to them to try looking at it from both perspectives at the same time. Or at least to take turns looking at it from either perspective throughout the day.
David Harris
You're clearly not aware of the fact that your own ideology is severely clouding your judgement
Cameron Long
The problem is not the government. The problem is not the gorilla. The problem is not the kid. The problem is not the muslims. The problem is not the fags.
The problem is allowing guns, regardless if they are automatic or not, to be readily available to a country which is known for its corrupt, and foul actions.
The problem is the thoughts that have been conditioned into ameritards brains that they're going to be raped by an angry black nigger at each corner of the street unless they have a firearm with them.
When you give the people guns, they feel safe. What does this tell you? Guns or not, you live in a niggerish society, America.
You must eradicate the muslims, niggers and spics and then you can leave guns behind.
Or
Get that thought out of your head and actually become civillised
Alexander Cox
This is the part where OP explains why Frances strict gun control didn't prevent the murder of 89 people in November last year.
Here it comes
Joseph Torres
> calls 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS > somehow islamic terror
Elijah Wood
>foreign subhuman >comes to American websites to pretend his opinions matter >thinks he's civilized when he doesn't even run the planet xD
Ayden Reyes
The niggers literally had RPGS
They were obviously blackmarketed
Justin Bennett
I don't understand how, even when the red line appears under the word you misspelled, you can still post the word "civillised" when it's actually "civilized". It's not fucking hard to not always appear to be a dumbass you lazy goddamned beta faggot millennial
Caleb Price
>guns made him do it
Murder is illegal.
Taking guns into a place which serves alcohol is illegal.
Taking guns into a school is illegal.
Taking guns into a government building is illegal.
Laws laws everywhere, and yet this still happens. Maybe if we make just one more law banning guns.......
protip: CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY LAWS
Henry Phillips
And gun free zones...
Levi Powell
Dads an Ameritard, Mums english.
Even we have guns in our home, i'm not saying I agree with banning guns. I'm saying the public literally believe they will be confronted unless they have a fire arm on them. Don't even deny it.
Adrian Howard
Protip: you're a moron
Hunter Evans
You forget this guy was a registered democrat
Jonathan Cooper
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Luke Lee
Typical leftist retort: Forget about reality when confronted with a rational argument. Instead, make accusatory comments regarding racism, sexism, etc.
Hunter Scott
>he thinks that was a cue for him to keep talking when he readily admits he's not 100% an American human Your mother fucked you up, little kid. You'll never understand liberty now.
Jordan Flores
Lol he was a registered democratic voter
Sebastian Hughes
Maybe make it harder for them to get it, Retard.
A black market already exists.
>Disarming the public won't do nothing
Maybe, but it will make it harder for beta faggots like you who want to shoot up schools because his gay highschool crush won't acknowledge him.
Sorry Americunt, i'm using a phone and also since i'm not American we spell it Civilised, but my bad I added another L. Maybe you should take it, loser.
America is a joke and you will be out numbered by niggers soon.
Xavier Perry
>implying a radical conservative right-winger couldn't possibly ever register for any party that they wanted to.
Autism
Ian Wood
You mad that trump inevitably fucked you and wants to ban guns yet again?
You kow you're a pussy when you can't defend yourself from a muslim with a gun
Stay salty, my nigger.
John Rogers
>Maybe, but it will make it harder for beta faggots like you who want to shoot up schools because his gay highschool crush won't acknowledge him
MFW School shooters and other mass shooters have been mostly liberals and registered democrats.
topKek
Angel Smith
>voting for something against your beliefs for the lolz You got me troll man jones you really did. 7/10 bait
Charles Watson
>visibly upset
Jeremiah Lee
>poisons the well >spews bullshit >makes stupid suggestion
Connor James
Still waiting
Hudson Stewart
North or South America, mohammed? >inb4 b.. b-but m-m-m-m8... (.T_T).
1/10 b8 because I replied.
Asher Price
Take it to pol you retards this place is for porn and banana threads
Jordan Cooper
Project much?
Bentley Lewis
There's a ban on murder, does that stop it from happening? There's a ban on illicit drugs, does that stop them from being used? There's a ban on sodomy, does that stop it from happening?
There's a point to this anti gun agenda and it's not to protect you or your family. It's the federal government protecting itself. Don't be stupid. Guns aren't the problem, people are. They're not getting the mental help they need. They're overworked, under paid, and consuming negative media like never before.
Chase Murphy
Anyone have a link to said statement?
Isaiah Gutierrez
>won't do nothing You're a retard and have no place debating anything with anyone.
>inb4 you cry about my fallacy when we both know it's true
Kayden James
Well he did explain it. It's because the killers used weapons that weren't legal in France. Namely, RPGs that must have been purchased on the black market.
Christian Gomez
>There's a ban on sodomy, does that stop it from happening?
I think only one state has that.
Nolan Green
So many shill threads
Henry Lopez
>since i'm not American we spell it Civilised You spell it how we tell you to spell it because you are the employee in this situation and we are the company owner. You people lost the right to determine the fate of the English language when you needed your former colony (who rebelled and won) to prevent you from speaking German or Russian. Understand, Liam?
Jonathan Morgan
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Ryder Ross
Tighter regulations on how they're sold and who to is not equal to a blanket ban
Jaxson Evans
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Jason Cooper
Liberals: "It's a gun problem!" Conservatives: "It's a Muslim problem!" Truth: It's a Muslims with guns problem.
Isaiah Jackson
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Ryder Phillips
>just take a step down this slippery slope >you'll be fine xD
Ayden Bailey
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Matthew Richardson
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Kevin Hill
The motherfucker LITERALLY pledged allegiance with ISIS and you're trying to tell me it wasn't islamic terrorism? Get the hell out of my country.
Austin Carter
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Gavin Davis
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Jackson Evans
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Xavier Turner
Ban guns Ban muslims
Then we can all be happy
Joshua Smith
Which I have no problem with. However, a blanket ban on assault rifles will have no effect. Next shooting will be a handgun, then the ban for those because they're too easy to conceal.
James Wood
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Joshua Wilson
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Julian Morgan
you forgot niggers
Michael Cruz
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Christopher Nguyen
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Jordan Bennett
It's every U.S. Citizens right to pledge allegiance to whoever the fuck they want.
That's how this country rolls. If you don't like it, go move to North Korea, and go join the Supreme Leader's loyal brigade.
Xavier Davis
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Kayden Rodriguez
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Juan Ross
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Xavier Peterson
In the past 30 years, 2 groups of people have committed the highest number of murders in the USA, with a drastic lead over other groups.
But pointing this out makes me a racist.
Owen Johnson
This.
THE NIGGERS AND THE SPICS WITH GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM
Disregard all white people, they're only labeled as mentally deranged
Thomas Phillips
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Kevin Long
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Nathaniel Cruz
>Ban guns >Then we can all be happy Please don't ever lump yourself in with real Americans who believe in liberty and personal responsibility.
Aiden King
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Daniel Diaz
the obama admin is famous for saying one thing and doing another.
For example, obama praises muslims when he speaks, then launched drones strikes on muslims overseas.
Evan Rivera
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Caleb Jackson
Thinking about everything in terms of race makes you a racist
Anthony Flores
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Joseph Fisher
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Brody Murphy
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Elijah Wilson
I know this is b8 but, it's also their right to keep and bear arms.
Robert Green
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Jack Morris
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David Jackson
Go ahead and try to take away guns. The right will rise and militia up so fucking fast liberals heads will spin. We will burn leftist bodies in the streets. You can take away my guns over my dead body you fucking faggot.