Germany and france dictate all the policies and have virtually all the influence

>germany and france dictate all the policies and have virtually all the influence

Why the fuck are so many countries in this cancerous """"""""""union""""""""?

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heritage.org/research/reports/2004/11/the-electoral-college-enlightened-democracy
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they also gave us free money.

Germany and France are like two balls and European people love to lick it.

So we can all give free stuff to Poland

>yuropoors bitch and moan about the electoral college existing so california and new york don't decide the nationwide politics and laws
>meanwhile cuckmany dictates the politics of western europe

>yuropoors bitch and moan about the electoral college existing so california and new york don't decide the nationwide politics and laws
I don't understand anything about what you say Tbh

oh look, american retard made a thread about EU. interesting

France doesn't dictate shit.

All France ever does is give free rimjobs to Germany.

which is a shame, because if France actually worked as acounterweight to Germany the EU might not have been such a fucking disaster.

nice meme

That's pretty right.
So, Lepen president when?

Lol, France in the last years have lost all the influence they were supposed to have in the Union. And it's a shame, because they are the only one who can act as a balance to Germany, since Italy and Spain are crippled with debt and the rest of the EU isn't relevant enough. I think the main problem were the presidents, Sarkozy was a superb idiot who never disagreed with Frau Merkel so he could say they were super friends (also thanks for starting all the Lybia shit you retarded midget) while Hollande is just.. meh. I unhironically believe that Le Pen wouldn't be such a bad PM

Mélenchon is better.

Like it never happens the other way around..

>unironically supporting a candiate with direct ties to Russia

>Le ebil Russia

this is why we need a united EU army. We must get rid of the two cancers of this world, Russia and America.

nice meme

To get free monies, you gotta be a society of idiots to actually PAY for this shit

>another let me tell you about your europe thread by a buttblasted american
Americans are worse than leaf-posters.

EU is ruled by Germany...

youtube.com/watch?v=gGO95FMkAIc

Germany and France are cute CUTE

the right girl is a porn actor. Look up her name on pornhub, "lucy cat". She gets drilled pretty hard

You dont say. The left one is a porn actor too.

>germany and france dictate all the policies and have virtually all the influence

Wrong

Depending on the political action, there needs to be a majority in the EU parliament (French and German MPs aren't the majority, and they're divided by political parties anyway) or a majority of ministers from EU countries or approval by the governments of all countries. Each country also has one EU commissar and the presidency of the council of the EU is rotating among all member states. All in all, small states have more political weight in proportion to their population, their votes also count more in EU elections.

Well memed tho.

Oh look an EUfaggot. Enjoying the free money slavshit?

Not united under the scum that is the european comission. Rather have america and russia parting this continent like in 1960 then.

thanks guys

In America we have a system called the electoral college so that the biggest cities do not control the election and politics on a federal level. This is a good thing.

In France, Paris controls your federal politics. Everybody else living elsewhere is fucked.

In Germany Berlin, Frankfurt and Hamburg control the federal politics. Oh you live in a white town in Bavaria? Your vote doesn't count for shit. You might as well not bother voting in the first place.

Do you see why such democratic systems are so goddamn awful?

Hello Ted

>an american makes a factually FUBAR post
Unsurprising.

Yo.

Feels good that Los Angeles, Chicongo and New York City don't decide the election every time.

sup, EU.

>cuckholm decides his elections and nationwide policies every time

The quality of life in the smallest countrys of the union increased alot. They accept to loose all their sovereignty in exchange to some comfort.

free money
no travel restrictions
simplifies trade between countries

>One giant cancer getting rid of two smaller cancers
Ebic
>The EU can do no wrong, it's literally perfect
How brainwashed are you?

>In Germany Berlin, Frankfurt and Hamburg control the federal politics. Oh you live in a white town in Bavaria? Your vote doesn't count for shit. You might as well not bother voting in the first place.

Thats the biggest, most retarded shit I have read on /soc/ for a while

>call american out for being a dumbass
>apparently I'm calling the EU a pillar of democracy and perfection
Were you dropped as a baby or something god damn

No wonder americans are the most hated posted on Sup Forums.

Cry more

How do I get some of the free money from the EU, guise?

Let me tell you what happened last week in a vote regarding fishing.
The 28 countries voted the legislation about fishing in the Atlantic. The law passed with 26 YES votes and 2 NO votes.
Who voted no? The only TWO countries who fish in the Atlantic. Spain and Portugal.
Screw your democracy where the majority decide things they don't even care about.

Please prove me wrong dipshit. The biggest cities in Germany control the election.

Might aswell not vote in the US if you live in New York since some dipshit unemployed rust-state faggot with parents who are also cousins is worth more than you despite being objectively less educated. Right?

You're embarassing your flag.

>some dipshit unemployed rust-state faggot with parents who are also cousins is worth more than you despite being objectively less educated

Why should one discriminate the right to vote based on ones education?

>"This is a good thing."
census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-33.html

Kill yourself.

That's because the majority of people live there, dipshit.

>The only two EU countries that fish in the Atlantic are Portugal and Spain

Yeah, I find that hard to believe

Why should one discriminate the right to vote based on ones geographical location?

>what is france, ireland, the uk, and norway

Because hes butt hurt that Trump won in the worst way possible and literally didn't care about the electoral college until a month ago, and apparently thinks that the majority of the nation deciding the president is a bad thing.

You aren't. They still get a right to vote and it gets counted like any other, just their collective voting power is balanced out between the more spread out, rural population so they can't win via simple majority, they need other communities support.

>Norway
>EU

We are not a democracy you fucking idiot but a federal republic of states which each states having their own interests. We elect electors which represent our states to vote for the president.

Our founding fathers rightfully hated the concept of democracy you stupid shit. They eviscerated the concept of democracy in their writings.

Two states should not dictate the politics and policies of the rest of the 48 states dumb Somali cunt. Tyranny of the majority is a real thing.

>muh hickzz meme

Protip, a lot of rust belt states are smarter than Cali and NY.

Thank fucking god we are not a democracy.

>The only TWO countries who fish in the Atlantic.
The other countries EU countries at the Atlantic don't fish there?

48% of Brits are idiots who want their country to pay £300,000,000 a year to be a vassal of Germany.

Good thing the other 52% had their head screwed on straight.

Bad news almost all of the media was on the side of the 48%, and Brexit is lambasted by the media.

>hurr, lets just ignore how the US voting system works because muh feelings
I don't even like Trump, but the only reason so-called 'leftists' in the US care about this is because a candidate they didn't like won. They wouldn't give a shit otherwise if it was the opposite case.

See
Stupid leftist fuck. We are not a democracy and our founders never intended for the country to be a democracy where the people elect the president. Hence why we elect electors to do so. We are a constitutional republic of states.

Nobody wants Cali and Jew York to control and pass all our legislation you stupid fucking idiot. Democracy is fucking garbage. Cry more that your spic and nigger infested leftist shitholes do not decide the election every time.

Go fuck yourself, your trawlers have bee raping our waters for years now.

Literally the only outlier on that map is CA. Almost every blue state on there has a higher IQ, which by the way isnt a good measure of intelligence.

>"hurr, lets just ignore how the US voting system works"

That's not the argument, faggot. It's how it should be. And the overwhelming majority of Americans, almost 70%, live in cities. You just don't like that because cities are mostly blue.

...

You'd be crying about the college if had given Hillary a minority win. Bingo, my dude.

You're also woefully incapable of seperating the idea that the presidential election should be properly democratic in nature from the way the states work. No one mentioned your state laws, man.

>hurr durr muh founding fathers

Yes, lets also reinstate slavery because the founding fathers intended for that as well! Surely, the founding fathers are the end all to everything and all of their viewpoints apply to America 200 years later!

>"hurr durr we are a country of states meme"

Spamming this a thousand times doesn't make you right. The argument is what it SHOULD be, not what it is.

>It's how it should be.
Says who? You? Nobody is pushing to change the US voting system anytime soon, and they certainly aren't going to ask you for pointers if they do.

>almost every blue state on there

Dakotas are not blue.

Utah is not blue.

Montana is not blue.

Kansas is not blue.

Missouri is not blue.

Iowa is purple.

Colorado is purple.

New Hampshire is purple.

Maine is purple.

Ohio is purple.

Indiana is not blue.

Pennsylvania is purple.

Idaho is not blue.

Texas is not blue.

North Carolina is not blue.

Wyoming is not blue.

>muh iq is bot a good measure

IQ is by far the greatest predictor of education levels and even stuff like fiancial situation. It is a strong predictor of health outcomes. It is the beat way to measure intelligence that we have.

Kill yourself NOW.

If the founding fathers didn't intend the electoral college to be proportionate to population
then why were the electoral college and congress expanded in line with census data up to 1911?

>"Nobody is pushing to change the US voting system anytime soon"

Are you retarded?

And no, the basic logic of argumentation would imply that we are arguing over what our voting system should be. Simply stating what it is isn't an argument, its just a statement.

>Yes, lets also reinstate slavery because the founding fathers intended for that as well!
The constitution never states anything for or against slavery, there's nothing stating that slavery should be instated. You're grasping at straws.
>The argument is what it SHOULD be, not what it is.
Based on your own personal idea of what it "should" be? Good thing you don't dictate how government should be set up, otherwise we'd be in some real deep shit comparatively speaking.

No I wouldn't you projecting faggot.

>the Presidential election should be democratic nobody said anything about state laws

You are a fucking idiot. Federal laws APPLY TO EVERY STATE.

No, fuck no to the idea that California and New York should control the election, electing presidents that pass laws that are favorable to those states while the 48 states oppose them.

Get it through your thick skull that the US was never intended to be a democracy. Our founding fathers lambasted the concept of democracy.

>Are you retarded?
No, I'm correct. Point to a popular movement that proves me otherwise.
>And no, the basic logic of argumentation would imply that we are arguing over what our voting system should be
Which is foolish as it's totally disconnected from any reality of the situation, as well as assumes that everyone agrees with what you're proposing.

I didn't say red states were dumb, I said that blue states weren't. But I guess if that's how you see it.

>"IQ is by far the greatest predictor of education levels and even stuff like financial situation."

Kill yourself.

>electoral college is literally slavery

You truly are a fucking idiot. By your same idiotic logic the concept of democracy should be abandoned worldwide as the first democratic state allowed slavery.

You make false equivalencies. No we should not get rid of the electoral college, simply because we are a union of states with states electing the president. It goes against the very foundation of this country.

If you truly want to get rid of the EC you do it through the legislative process. Good luck gettibg 2/3rd of states to agree with you.

Otherwise fuck off you filthy calinigger jew york spic. I don't want you filthy cunts to dictate the federal politics every time.
Democracy is fucking garbage and thank god we are not one.

Fuck off to Canada or Europe.

Do you have a brain at all? I didn't claim that the popular vote is how we elect a president. You think I did, because your only counterargument was "the electoral college exists". I'm not claiming that the popular election is the way that we elect someone, I'm saying that it should be.

>hurr durr land should vote

>"Our founding fathers lambasted the concept of democracy."

Kill yourself.

>"electoral college is literally slavery"
>"i don't know how to read"

>spouting the same "we are a country of states" line a thousand times makes me right

>"calinigger jew york spic"
>"everyone who disagrees with me is x"

>, I'm saying that it should be.
According to you and no one else, which is the point. You don't give any arguments in support of your position either.

pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/

Dumb fuck. Read the literature some time.

>my source is literally a random wordpress blog

Kill yourself.

>Contrary to modern perceptions, the founding generation did not intend to create a direct democracy. To the contrary, the Founders deliberately created a republic -- or, arguably, a republican democracy -- that would incorporate a spirit of compromise and deliberation into decision-making. Such a form of government, the Founders believed, would allow them to achieve two potentially conflicting objectives: avoiding the "tyranny of the majority" inherent in pure democratic systems, while allowing the "sense of the people" to be reflected in the new American government.27

heritage.org/research/reports/2004/11/the-electoral-college-enlightened-democracy

foundingfatherquotes.com/articles/22

We are not a democracy you idiot. Thank god for it.

It has citations to the studies' PDFs you stupid ADHD-ridden fuck.

>heritage foundation

So I'm assuming you think we should have only landed men be able to vote?

>attacking the source instead of the content

Let me sum it up for you because this is tiring. The Founding Fathers lambasted the concept of democracy mainly because of tyranny of the majority, thus the US was founded as a representative republic of states. Each state has its own interests and people vote for electors in those states which vote for the president. The electoral college was created so the most heavily populated areas do not dictate the president every time.

We are not a fucking democracy. California and New York should not be able to control the federal policies that pertain to the reat of the 48 states especially when said policies are opposed by most of the states.


We are a union of states.

It's literally modeled after our own union.

The electoral college was made to stop people from picking stupid presidents.

>We are a union of states

All of these "states rights" people look like a bad satire to everyone else in the first world tbqh senpai, you're 1 country, deal with it

He's just an asshurt flyover state that wants to be in control while doing nothing to earn it.

And you're an inbred potatonigger who starved because he doesn't know how to fish. State law varies heavily from each state. California and New York have ireland-tier gun laws. States like Texas have Swiss-style gun laws.

And to prevent the most populous cities being in charge of our federal politics by being the ones who determine the outcome of our presidential elections. It was created with multiple reasons in mind. Read the links.

You lost dumb calinigger. This is not your country. The sooner you secede qnd sink into the ocean the better.

what does "cities controlling elections" even mean? If your president was popularly elected he'd have to appeal to the entire country rather than just Florida and Nevada.

Ah he resorts to bad insults, how dysfunctional your country is and will be is literally your fault m8, your country is practically homogeneous, backwater states shouldn't have a bigger say than they are due

The country wouldn't be capable of sustaining itself without us and you would fall apart.

not him but democrats generally have an advantage in big cities while republicans are voted in by rural folk.

Remove LA and NYC county and Shillary loses the popular vote. The most heavily populated cities such as Los Angeles and New York City make the popular vote.

>your country is oractically homogenous

You are dumb as fuck. State interests regularly clash with each other on many issues. What California wants is not what Oklahoma or Indiana want for example.

>backwater states shouldn't have a bigger say
And Los Angeles and New York City shouldn't control the entire country and dictate federal politics that apply to the whole state you inbred potatoshit. Democracy is a fucking trash system.

>the states that were smart enough to become wealthy shouldn't be in control but the parasite in the Mongolian image board obviously has the capability needed to run this country
The best part about this recent election is that you voted for one of jew yorkers that you hate so much.

I'm an autocrat, your system is just fucking retarded m8, makes sure nothing changes or gets done that needs to get done (education reform, proper legal reform, full-fledged capital investment programmes for urban areas, etc)

Your flyover president isn't bringing you back those coal jobs bitch

No we won't. The country has survived far worse situations. Our econony will take a hit for a few years, yes, but we will recover. We have plenty of other viable trading and economic partners.

Your spic-majority state is a blight upon thie country. There's a reason more Californians leave the state than flyovers moving in. You are like locusts. You ruined Colorado. You ruined Nevada. You ruined Oregon. Your people leave your state due to your shit policies, move to other states, then vote for the same politicians that caused you to leave your state in the first place. Your are locusts.

Your industry and companies are rapidly moving to states like Texas.


Secede already. May the great earthquake happen soon and may global warming flood your SJW cancerous shithole. And hopefully we'd be able to build a wall so your spics, niggers, and nu-males will not infest our country any longer.

>Your industry and companies are rapidly moving to states like Texas.
>We have plenty of other viable trading and economic partners.
>Our econony will take a hit for a few years, yes, but we will recover

Would you prefer Romania call the shots?

Far better than a system where two cities decide who our president is you fucking idiot.

Trump already started bringing back manafacturing jobs idiot.

That will soon be replaced by robots.

Oh did he that's cute, I'll see you in the mines so

nationalreview.com/article/426974/businesses-leave-california-texas

bizjournals.com/dallas/blog/morning_call/2015/11/california-lost-9-000-business-hqs-and-expansions.html

,m.sfgate.com/business/article/Tech-pipeline-to-Texas-Tax-money-employees-flow-6791524.php

We survived the greatest recession in history. We survived an extremely destructive civil war.

Secede already you locust. May your shithole get quaked and submerged into oblivion.

That red state education at work.

You wouldn't be taking so much federal aid if you were doing well.