Why cant the USA have a referendum on gun control? is it not a democracy or is it a dictatorship?

Why cant the USA have a referendum on gun control? is it not a democracy or is it a dictatorship?

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gun control is proven to not work.

really ?
where are you facts and statistics for this claim?

because countries with gun control don't have the ridicolus murderrate the usa has

I keep my guns locked in a safe so the don't escape and shoot someone.
Also, let's have a referendum on removing your 1st amendment right to shitpost while we're at it

Honduras... Extremely strict gun control, one of the highest homicide rates in the world.

harvard, read you nigger: law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Oh wait, nevermind...OP's not a US citizen

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Maybe there's a lower gun rate but usually the case is violent crime rises. And guns still manage to stay around, cause you know, criminals don't fucking care about laws. *cough* Paris *cough*

Doesn't Brazil have the highest murder rate per capita? And it has very strict gun control. I also heard that they were going to try a laxer policy to see how that works.

OP, kindly fuck off and take your tears with you

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It's a constitutional republic

This is evidence of a perfect democracy. The actual majority of US citizens don't want more shitty gun laws, it gets voted against, the minority cries their eyes out on camera and plot again until another "massacre" happens.

We can but new/more gun legislation is less favorable than the media and politicians make it out to be. Additionally the proposed laws are actually fucking retarded if you bother to get into the details. Hence the reason all 4 measures were shut down.

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OP, did you finally realize you are a faggot

They can. It's call a "Constituional Amendment"

Yes, just like how the US people were in favor of the Patriot Act after 9/11 we should impose strict gun control in the wake of the Orland shooting. We need to be a global community with no privacy and limited means of uprising against the government.

You have it the other way around. Most people do want gun control and don't give a fuck. It's the diehard second amendment conspiracy theorists stopping it.

Why can't you stop being a giant pussy, OP?

except you'd never be able to prove that without a referendum because senators generally vote along party lines and voters don't

False. You are just a retard. Is it so hard to believe that their are people out their who blame the individual for their actions rather than the inanimate object and the availability of said object?

We're not a democracy.

We are a Constitutionally Representative Republic.

Besides the Second Amendment allows you to not only defend yourself and your family it grantees your other rights under the Constitution. Ones you start removing core rights other rights like say the First or the Fourth will shortly follow there after.

Look on some college campuses and their wanting to remove "hate speech" and so called "safe zones" That is an infringement of your First Amendment rights and many would happily take that from you if you even dare to disagree with them.

Fuck off you European socialist faggot

Imagine if 6 million jews had AR15's 75-80 years ago. Bitch.
There's a reason for 2A

Sorry if you arent a fan, but owning firearms is a fundamental right of the american people.

to be specific it's a pseudo republic that actually operates off oligarchy principles

007 truth

This is the stupidest argument, why do people employ it? First off, the AR15 didn't exist back then so why don't the Jews just use their awesome time travel powers to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby?

Srsly

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Is second amendment right, faggot. Go back to cambodia

America's going left, politically.

The 2nd Amendment will be repealed, or amended, within 15 years.

Guns WILL be banned. And they will be confiscated. Americans lost their right to own guns when tyranny came - and their cowardice prevented them from picking up their arms.

Well-regulated militias? No. lol and The People don't consistute a WELL REGULATED militia.

>And they will be confiscated
moldy labia

Not understanding well regulated or militia in the proper context and terms.

This old trope....

A well regulated militia constutes being called to arms, and led, by the governor or sheriff in most circumstances. The citizens must be armed and ready for this call

mfw when I read
> gum control

>waiting to be 'called to arms' by the govt
>to fight the govt
>a govt that could decimate the people
>with only a tiny fraction of the people revolting

tyranny's here, son. it's been here. and you were too much of a coward to pick up your arms, and protect The People.

You lost your right to own guns. Men like me will be taking them soon. From your "cold, dead hands" if need be.

what the fuck whta animal is that hahahahahha

Canada here.
>own rifles, shotguns, and handguns
>all legal
>many, many friends own guns too
>can buy guns in stores after taking a piddly 1.5 day course
>no registry for 99% of long guns and shotguns
>barely any huge shooting issues
>99% of shootings are inner city blacks who are using guns that were illegally smuggled in inside of afros
>gun control only punishes the well-behaved gun owners

There's one every 4 years. It's called an election. Troub is Amerifags love their guns more than their children.

Fair enough.

If you base fundamental US rights off of the constitution with the idea that they cannot change, how come I can't have Slaves?

>Thinks the US is a democracy, and not a federal republic.

Because Honduras is a shithole, thanks to the US.

Bad example faggot.

Tough shit. We're sick of school shootings and massacres because faggots like you want to treat guns like some toy or status symbol.

The dangerous shit needs to be banned. Deal with it. We'll let you have handguns and shotguns for hunting. That's it.

it looks like a bird, friendo

I'm no zoologist, but i believe that's called a bird

You must have forgotten that the people are also footing the bill.

All government is driven by and large by popular vote, so yes. We are a democracy, and the people could vote to limit or ban weapons, absolutely.

BINGO

You (YOU) gun nuts attacked a PRE SCHOOL. You killed CHILDREN. Guns are done.

At their center, all western democracies with any relevance are fascist military entities. It's been proven in Greece and Spain. The northern states are just more affluent and thus more content with their fairytale world.

If elite hierarchies were ever gravely threatened by mass revolts in the modern age they might take great damage but in the end the military has nukes and submarines. They'll take over, not armed gangs though they may ally with them. The only way forward is through centuries of reform. Cannabis f.x is nowhere near being legalized despite the drug war being an elephant in the room.

I would laugh at all the faggots who talk about cultural marxism(those who aren't trolls anyways) if all them red anarchists and other left radicals weren't even more retarded.

The US is a corrupt democracy. So, sometimes the people's voice is heard, sometimes it's not.

Something like 94% of americans think it's reasonable to perform a background check before selling somebody a gun.

Yet, the legislative branch does nothing because the conservatives are bought and paid for by the NRA.

So, you have half of the government trying to do what the people want and the other half making excuses based on fear and ignorance because they care more about their own money and power than the people who they were elected to represent.

And then that law would be promptly overturned as unconstitutional... So yeah have fun with that.

sort of right, but statistics are BS
where did you collect your sample from? faggot

Good point. So, since you acknowledge that the Constitution is a living document that needs to change with the times, then you need to recognize that the definition of the weapons that the founding fathers had in mind needs to change with it. The framers may not have imagined assault weapons when they wrote the 2nd amendment, but I'm also sure that they didn't foresee the bloated welfare state that the gov't has become.

>gun referendum
>would be overturned

No it wouldn't.

The 2nd Amendment is obsolete because our standing army took the place of "militias." The people can defend this country by joining the military.

oh please. i don't need guns to murder preschoolers; I just like the way it splatters their brains all over the walls. it's like my own personal jackson pollock

*Representative Democracy

>durr I don't believe facts because they disagree with muh narrative

Because you would lose that referendum

*Representative Democracy

>referendum
Because it's not the general populace that wants gun control. It's only a portion. The other portion likes seeing their children get gunned down by people legally obtaining guns or illegally obtaining guns from people who shouldn't have been able to obtaine them legally

gun control wont work in america as you've already had guns forever. cant put the genie back in the bottle.

Doesn't matter.

user is trying to make it look like the People don't have the power to decide the issues in this country. We elect those who will pass legislation we want. They are not appointed, the People vote for them.

>facts
Prove it fact-o
still waiting on your source of bullshit

Fuck you faggot. 94% fucking percent of the country wants that shit.

Not going to re-invent the fucking wheel with you because you can't keep up with current events.

Where in the Constitution does it say i have a right to slaves?

you're implying that your vote matters past local elections
maybe state
are you personally counting the votes?
how do you know your vote is actually counted?
this country has become too large to ensure that everything is done fairly and legitimately

okay, just admit that you're pulling shit out of your ass

So because you suffer from paranoia the People's vote doesn't elect Presidents and Congress?

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England's had guns faaaaar longer than the US. their gun ban worked. So did 'straya's. In fact, America's a new nation, comparably. Europe's had guns longer than murca. And they don't have 10's of thousands of gun deaths each year.

Guns will be controlled. And then they will be banned. Americans can't be trusted with their guns any longer. The 2nd amendment will be repealed or amended.

actually there are background checks like that guy in chicago that failed it and he was a news reporter

Admit that you aren't allowed to believe information that isn't approved on Sup Forums first.

>implying a third of your company won't just go awol
>implying another third wont "search" houses for guns, then declare them clear
>implying the last third won't frag you if you provoke a standoff.


Armed confiscation has already lost. Go police call the parking lot, friday release formation isn't until 1600 today

gunowners.org/04052013congress.htm

>guns will be banned
Not as long as we have a powerful gun lobby and conservatives controlling Congress.

the popular vote has been ignored many times There was supposed election fraud THIS ELECTION. California, Bernie was supposed to win. Not that I give a shit about that fucking pinko commie bastard.

Chicago has some of the highest gun control in the U.S. and has one of the highest murder rates in the U.S. Don't compare other countries to the U.S. because the environments are much different.

example: niggers

>the NRA is super bad guize
Get outta here amy schumer

Oh look you found some right-wing blog that agrees with you

>number of shootings by country.
>shows percentages instead.
Seems like a suspiciously made up graph...

>moldy labia
I laughed out loud

If you didn't catch it, that was a bastardization of "molon labe" or "come and take them". Famous standoff between a small Greek city and the Persian army, where the army sent a messenger to tell the town "give up your weapons and we won't kill everyone" or something to that affect. The Greeks replied "come and take them".

the NRA is dogshit
suck it faggot

Gun control more generally, though, has seen declining support recently. In a Pew Research poll in July, 85 percent of Americans favored background checks on all private gun sales and gun show sales – a step further than the president is set to propose your still wrong

SHALL

And once the case goes through we will find the truth, until than...speculation

don't visit that shit hole. I can think for myself. Just cite your source and we're done here, man. Quit dodging it

its a republic not a democracy; the majority has to follow the supreme rule of law our ancestors agreed to: the constitution

0/10

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NOT

Its a representative republic not a democracy actually. also that really would be begging for civil war two: electric boogaloo

Join the Army, faggot. No infringement. They issue you a killing machine.

>implying the 92% stat is totes true
Read it faggot, read it and see how the media pushes anti gun bullshit

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Why?

Because the police in Honduras are practically powerless. That's not a gun control failure, it's a failure of the state

> muh evil NRA

into the trash it goes.

You'll only hear about it when we catch it. Assuming it doesn't occur on at least some scale beyond your scope is foolish