So I know shit about metal. What the hell is the difference between death metal and black metal?
So I know shit about metal. What the hell is the difference between death metal and black metal?
Camden Richardson
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Jaxson Nelson
death metal is growly and complicated and is about horror
black metal is screechy and simple and is about evil
Joshua Watson
even though they both have the same muddy, crucible-esque origin during the extreme metal expansion of 1981-1985, death metal focused on thick production, heavy bass and complex riffs (comparatively, at least) that owed more to 2nd wave thrash and focused on horror and gore. Vocals mainly low growls. Very fast. Black metal was first a very raw and minimal strain of 1st wave thrash that during the early 90s (particularly in Norway, and called the 2nd wave of black metal) became a response against the (perceivedly) excesses of death metal. It's crude, vocals are mostly high-pitched shrieks, themes are dark and existencial or spiritual in a pagan way (although there's pretty much any kind of lyrics you care to find), minimalist production and a lot of dynamics in tempo and intensity.
For more information you can fucking listen to the music because that'll explain it more clearly than any of us ever could.
Robert Rivera
Death metal employs heavy riffs, low-pitched grunts and a lot of blast beats.
Black metal is more amelodic, atmospheric and typically characterised by higher pitched screeches.
Example of death metal: youtube.com
Example of black metal: youtube.com
Dylan Reed
death metal is basically thrash metal but heavier.
black metal is basically thrash metal but spookier.
Wyatt Butler
Death metal:
>lyrics are little horror stories
>musicians look like regular metalheads and don't really care about anything except music
>album artstyle is painterly
>moderate stage theatrics
>lots of moshing in the crowd
Black Metal:
>lyrics are provocative and/or lyrical and/or mystical in tone
>musicians look like undead orcs and are strongly opinionated about everything
>album art is either photographs or drawings/engravings
>elaborate stage theatrics
>no moshing in the crowd
Cameron Morales
Death Metal is brutal, Black Metal is evil.
Gabriel Baker
>death metal is basically thrash metal but heavier.
No, that's groove metal right there
Christian Cooper
>Cuckjira and Bumbum
Kevin Nelson
>those examples
Did I miss the injoke where we're actively trying to confuse OP?
Julian Harris
This explains absolutely nothing about the music, scenetard.
Adam Allen
Burzum is atmoblack and Gojira is groove death. They aren't really pure example of their respective genres but they don't cross into each other's, so it's OK.
Ryan Martinez
OP didn't ask about the music, wankfag.
Luke Richardson
I kinda just picked whatever came to mind first desu. Explains the main differences well enough.
Asher Powell
In lelman terms, this is the best explanation.
Captcha: Mews plenty
Carter Diaz
Yeah, you're right, he asked about consumption of pork per capita in the People's Republic of China, right?
Jordan Hall
It explains the differences between groovecore and DSBM, and even then, poorly.
But neither is representative of the genre
Grayson Ward
He asked about death metal and black metal, I told him about death metal and black metal.
Anthony Cooper
THIS is death metal
youtube.com
THIS is black metal
youtube.com
unarguably
Kayden Cooper
unless it was recorded in some dank norwegian basement in 1992 on a cassette player, it might as well be Coldplay
death to false metal
Noah Hernandez
You're a joke. We're on a music board, the guy asks the difference between music genres, you assume he means absolutely every aspect of it except the music and think you're justified because OP didn't meet your standards of specification. Stop moving the goalposts in an attempt to save face, scenecuck.
Dominic Flores
Death Metal: youtube.com
Black Metal: youtube.com
Dominic Lopez
I say you disregard every post except these, OP
As said
>For more information you can fucking listen to the music because that'll explain it more clearly than any of us ever could.
Juan Taylor
kek, hivemind
Austin Anderson
morbidthrone hivemind
William Bailey
It's complicated because there are a tons of group in between, because they have the same origins and because there is a counter example to almost every definition
Other posters gave a rough idea
Some (arguably iconic) examples :
>death
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>black
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Wyatt Sullivan
Transylvanian Hunger confirmed for being the be-all-end-all of black metal
someone go tell /nbbmn/
Henry Rodriguez
For example what said is roughly true except that brutal black metal (ex : panzer division marduk) and evil death metal (ex : onward to golgotha) exist
Carter Gomez
everyone already knows that Transilvanian Hunger is the purest BM album of all time. Not the best but the purest. It's common knowledge.
David Moore
When black metal is brutal, it's called BESTIAL BLACK METAL or WAR METAL
When death metal is evil, it's called CAVERNCORE or ATMODEATH
Xavier Baker
underrated post
Bentley Kelly
You try and say that on /nbbmn/
Alexander Morgan
>BESTIAL BLACK METAL
recs ?
Colton Price
what are, for example, behemoth?
Logan Phillips
Marduk, Infernal War, (early) Kommandant
Oliver Fisher
Hivemind hivemind
Camden Smith
>lyrics are lyrical
Juan Richardson
Hive-hivemind
Andrew Collins
These are good examples, but keep in mind that they show a variety of subgenres within death and black metal
Joseph Flores
first album: melodic black metal
second album: pagan black metal
third album: symphonic/melodic black metal
and from then on, everything they did has been death metal with more or less strong shades of black metal.
So generally we say they make blackened death metal.
The Satanist has pretty obvious orthoblack vibes for example, but it's still death metal.
Rule of thumb: if it's down-tuned and growly, it's death metal.
Asher Brooks
yes
lyricism is a tone in poetry, where you're very emphatic and dramatic, and put a lot of emotional value behind everything
Nathan Williams
The music is different. Use your ears.
Gavin Ortiz
Yeah good call i should have said it
Oliver Peterson
Blak metl: youtube.com
Det metl: youtube.com