>Mozart was perhaps the most ambitious composer in the history of music. He produced at least one, and generally several imposing masterpieces in almost every genre of music— concerto, song, opera (serious and comic, German and Italian), string trio, string quartet, string quintet, quintet for piano and winds, trio and quartet for piano and strings, quintet for wind instrument and strings, divertimento for wind octet, double concerto for violin and viola, symphony,piano sonata, violin sonata. Although he left no completed major work of religious music, his two fragments—the C Minor Mass and the requiem— are monumental even in their unfinished state.in comparison, Haydn’s major successes were largely restricted to the two genres of symphony and string quartet; only when he was much older than Mozart ever became did he create his most impressive piano sonatas, piano trios, and the important vocal works with the late masses and the two oratorios. And only after Mozart’s Prague symphony had surpassed in size and weight any of Haydn’s orchestral works, setting an example, did he expand his symphonic style. >Mozart enlarged the forms of his time by combining genres. The finale of his Piano Sonata in B-flat, K. 333, is a large concerto movement, with imitations ofthe contrast of orchestra and soloist, and a huge cadenza like an improvisation. He introduced operatic effects in his chamber music, and symphonic and concerto passages into his opera arias. His concertos have moments of intimate and complex chamber music. The finale of the Jupiter symphony has an unprecedented display of learned counterpoint, simultaneously combining six themes. He magnified almost every genre in which he worked. Mozart is underrated.
You mean memorization for cheating and general lack of creativity?
Cameron Campbell
hahahaha dude americans are dumb lol :)
Kayden Powell
vomit inducing close harmonies, poor voice independence. Just generally sounds unpleasant. The recording you chose is of very poor quality too, just as a side note.
Jeremiah Brooks
Who's the go to classical guitar composer? Looking to learn some classical guitar pieces
Caleb White
>shitting on feinberg Literally and unironically participate in the action of suicide
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Samuel Taylor
well in terms of sound quality, he's right. that recording sounds like dokey.
Kayden Jones
Rodrigo, Tarrega
Grayson Lee
his playing is sloppy and his dynamics are schizophrenic. I wouldn't mind the shitty quality if he was playing well. >Literally unironically these are the words of some internet autist with shitty taste in pianists
Brayden Thomas
Agustin Barrios
Brody Clark
his sense of dynamics is actually great. i wouldn't really say that it's schizophrenic as much as it is idiomatic in its emphasis/de-emphasis from bar-to-bar. it's far removed from the hopelessly sterile and flat dynamics of many pianists today.
the real snitch, though, is Feinberg's sense of rhythm, i think. it's positively dance-like. it's a common feature in many of his recordings.
there are a few mistakes, sure, but that's to be expected from older recordings, many of which were basically live and/or had extremely limited re-takes.
Aaron Reed
>people still believe that Mozart's fugues were derivative of Bach, when in fact Mozart likely abandoned countless attempts because they didn't seem original enough While this fugue is easily on par with the WTC's fugues in terms of motivic economy and exploitation of "learned" contrapuntal techniques, its harmonic and rhythmic idiom is completely unlike that of JS Bach: The accented diatonic dissonances that decorate the countersubject (which is a decorated version of the main subject), which are exaggerated into abrupt chromaticism in bar 9, halving the basic pulse and phrase structure - a sudden contrast that is has no equal in Bach's WTC fugues (only Contrapunctus 11 comes to mind). Throughout augmentation and diminution are used to modulate pulse and phrase structure first and foremost, i.e. using an old device to introduce the flexibility of the classical style into the genre of the fugue.
Jayden Adams
I wish Mozart had lived long enough to enter the romantic period.
Evan Moore
>While this fugue is easily on par with the WTC's fugues in terms of motivic economy and exploitation of "learned" contrapuntal techniques, its harmonic and rhythmic idiom is completely unlike that of JS Bach: The accented diatonic dissonances that decorate the countersubject (which is a decorated version of the main subject), which are exaggerated into abrupt chromaticism in bar 9, halving the basic pulse and phrase structure - a sudden contrast that is has no equal in Bach's WTC fugues (only Contrapunctus 11 comes to mind). Throughout augmentation and diminution are used to modulate pulse and phrase structure first and foremost, i.e. using an old device to introduce the flexibility of the classical style into the genre of the fugue. none of this is true mozart is gay and he sucks lol
Tyler Morris
that'd be like kurt kobain living through the 2000's it wouldn't be the same and it wouldn't work.
Lincoln James
Mozart was more talented than Kurt though.
Mason Barnes
>mozart haters need to use memerock similes
Nathaniel Sanders
>The recording you chose is of very poor quality too Opinion discarded. Feinberg is based.
I know it's a bit bad and convoluted, Im working on it. Also for some reason it won't export playing at the correct BPM, so it's going to be a bit fast.
Gabriel Nelson
No way. Mozart could've easily kept producing for another 30 years. I wonder what it could've been like if he was alive during that time.
Jason Roberts
harpsichord wank with terrible, downright offensive sheet music
Levi Young
Who here /Yurima/?
Joshua Rivera
I like it Weird how fake harpsichord is easier on the ear than real harpsichord
Gavin Turner
The sheet music sucks complete ass lol. I just wrote it on the piano scroll in an hour or two and brought it over to the program.
get out some manuscript paper and write your music onto that. helps train your inner ear to audiate whats in your head
Jason Reyes
Is Yiruma meme-tier? I only heard of him because he was on the Twilight soundtrack.
Noah Bell
>I only heard of him because he was on the Twilight soundtrack.
I don't know what is sadder, the fact that he did some work for Twilight and I didn't know, or that's the only way you know this man.
Nathan Morris
I want someone to orchestrate Via Crucis. Such a great composition but I can't help but feel it would be better with a orchestra behind it, rather than a piano or organ
Bentley Barnes
the recording quality is awful. nothing to do with the pianist. Piano was never supposed to sound like that.
I never compared Mozart to Bach friend. Just said that Mozarts fugues aren't that good. Even Froberger wrote better fugues.
Jonathan Adams
>the recording quality is awful. nothing to do with the pianist. You need to practice selective listening. And I'm sure the user who copy-pasted SDF did it to show of how unique the fugue is, it's a great fugue.
Joseph Collins
ye, it sounds like shit
thought to its credit it actually isn't nearly as bad as some other Russian recordings made around that period
jesus fucking christ, Yudina's live Bach. dear god
Cameron Morgan
Another notable Mozart fugue is the one in the final of the Jupiter symphony, notable at least for its novelty.
Jaxson Powell
only for its novelty*
Henry Gonzalez
Listen to Schubert Do it.
Dylan White
>listening to shit quality recordings >listening to recordings at all go see things live more often. Its the correct way to experience classical. If you have to listen to a recording. make it a good quality one. Or you could use your "Selective Listening" to listen to computer generated performances with casio synth and loud shouting in the background. By all means, knock yourself out.
Mozart is all novelty really. Very little serious music.
Oliver Wood
Hi Poly
Jacob Howard
>serious music
*tips fedora*
Tyler King
>go see things live more often I do when the chance comes around. Spoiler alert: your local orchestra doesn't play everything you'd want to hear. >If you have to listen to a recording. make it a good quality one. Why? That Feinberg has a wonderful performance, and tons of old less-than-great sounding recordings have some fantastic performances under the static. >Mozart is all novelty really This is what plebeians actually believe.
>Mozart's last piece of music is one of the most celebrated pieces of music ever >nah, he was totally going to suck
Chase Gonzalez
I've played piano since I was 4, I'm 18 now and I don't know it I should treat it as a hobby. At the moment I'm good enough to enroll in the best piano course in the best conservatory of my country.
Would that be enough? My greatest fear is to have to resort to retail jobs in my 40s.
Are currently piano lessons, compositions and gigs enough to eat on a daily basis?
Ayden Edwards
Reminder that Mozart's best work was composed only when he was dying
Charles Anderson
>its largely unfinished dropped
Wyatt Rivera
Franz Xaver Süssmayr is underrated.
Jacob Allen
In contemporary music you have a ton artists who had a few good albums and then went to shit. It is basically unheard of somebody making good stuff for 20 years, or even a decade.
Are there any examples of the same thing happening to classical composers? If not, why not?
Carter Martin
Lads, how do I get into Mozart without becoming one of the "Mozart for your mind" cunts? I listen to a lot of Bach, Haydn, Zelenka etc. I just want some good Mozart that isn't a meme.
Ryan Perry
All mozart is a meme
Ryan Rodriguez
Play piano. You will quickly notice that you're mistaking harmonic and melodic perfection with bland formalism.
Dylan Carter
How can perfection be perfect and still be mistaken with bland formalism?
checkmate atheists
William Allen
Because when you listen to it it sounds so ''obvious'', but as soon as you actually care about the notes that are being played you'll notice that there is nothing obvious and easy in Mozart's music.
It's just that good.
Blake Wright
So it's only good when you look at the score from a technical standpoint i. e. the definition of bland formalism
Christopher Mitchell
Bland formalism means that Mozart composed using formulae and strict conventions. He didn't. Literally no one composed like Mozart.
It was a completely original effort that became synonim with catchiness and beauty.
Lokking at the scores will make it obvious. If you're against that just listen to what Mozart was playing and what his contemporariesand predecessors were playing. You will quickly find out that there is nothing like Mozart.
Gabriel Nelson
Mozart is a bad composer who died too late rather than too early
