Americans are fucking retarded. A senator proposes we use reallocate tax money to pay for everyone to go to college so that the country can have an economic future, and the entire country is in an uproar, turning on its own poor, crying 'THEY'RE STEALING MY TAX MONIES', 'COMMUNISM!!!!', 'FUCK THE POOR'
yet the government puts a trillion dollars towards making 1 aircraft to murder people with, and not a single peep is heard
no. its really not. lives of the citizens > defense of the citizens
yup. its fucking disgusting
Hudson Howard
>Not knowing the only legitimate use of government funding and power is collectivized self defense.
Jack Baker
America's a faaaar right wing nation. It's time to start purging the nation of right wingers. And fast.
Ethan Barnes
If a single penny of my money went to some one's "womyn" studies education, we're gonna have a big issue
Jason Miller
So, we send everyone to college and then we will be speaking Chinese soon.
Anthony Hall
we have the largest military in the world that we don't fucking need. you realize other countries thing we are a bigger threat than russia.
Wyatt Butler
So basically you want whites to be a minority in the US?
Camden Wood
were already going to be speaking chinese soon
bait
no, instead your money is giving gays and women a free ride in the military. literally paying them to sit on their asses in bases and make missiles and jets we will never use/dont need
Ayden Scott
>Let's take a functioning nation and purge it only of its intelligent and hard-working population. You're the problem
Aiden Morales
dude, they just granted 18million dollars in free tax breaks to a fucking church funded amusement part with discriminating hiring practices that have been oked by the government. that 18 million couldve paid off 100s of kids college debt
And you will be the first one to suck cock for gas when it is $40 a gallon.
Nathan Gomez
if gas prices go up to 40 dollars, its because america spent all its money on military instead of investing in alternative energy/producing electric cars
we have almost no funding in science or space exploration anymore either unless its building viral weapons to kill people with or finding ways to nuke people from space
Jose Brooks
>Lives of people =/= defense of people >Defense of people is required for life of people Are you retarded?
Grayson Bennett
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Sebastian Nguyen
That military will be used to take the South China Sea when current fossil fuel supplies diminish.
Chase Barnes
>the debt
Andrew Brooks
not if people are dying from lack of heatlh care or, poor living conditions, or starvation/malnutrition
Levi Barnes
why is it that the total student debt is 1.26 trillion dollars and people complain that paying for the debt would be absurd and then making college free is a insane idea. studentloanhero.com/student-loan-debt-statistics-2…/ when they calculated back when they did this for the GI bill every dollar put in seven came out sure that sounds great. but why did we need to spend the equivalent of all student debt on a plane? motherboard.vice.com/…/the-trillion-dollar-stealth-j… I am just saying we could be putting money into better things.
Cameron Hall
If everyone has the opportunity to go to college for free, then application rates will skyrocket. Resulting in a very selective application acceptance process. In stupid words, It will become very hard to go to college.
James Ramirez
>recucklicans >intelligent kek
Jacob Morales
you're basically saying that people should be denied the right to go to college and be forced to work at mcdonalds even though they want to better their lives.
nope.
Thomas Rogers
It already is hard to get into a worthwhile college, you dumb nigger
Jaxon Williams
So who is going to work at McDonalds?
Colton Long
No one and that shitty restaurant will finally end.
Levi Johnson
see this:
we will never run out of lazy ignorant people (usually mexicans) to work for mcdonalds. plus mcdonalds is trying to replace human workers with robots anyways. so something needs to be done
one can only hope
Noah James
>Shitty reductionist logic. Typical libtard
Dominic Flores
I mean, when everyone has a college education, who will be doing actual work?
Jace Kelly
You bought an education. And now you want me to pay for it.
Would you like to pay off my mortgages and cars?
Thomas Baker
you mean i presented an obvious sound logical counter argument, and you have nothing to reply with, so you have to resolve to using overused catchphrases like 'libtard'
>assuming everyone in america will go to college and get a high end technical degree
come on user. come back to reality
Aiden Brooks
What have you done to earn a free education? There is no way your so far up your own entitled ass to think people are just born deserving of success and that if theyre a lazy moron its society's fault because we didnt give them enough free shit
Hunter Butler
If I have an awesome job because you paid for me to go to college, this means I put more money into goods and services, ie: your job, making YOU more money to pay off your own mortgage and cars. Its called economics user. You should read up on them sometime
>Implying college is an easy free ride to riches
being this retarded
Colton Taylor
No one has a right to education, or anything else for that matter, they get only what they can pay for and defend and no one else should be forced to spend or work on their behalf without being compensated equivalently.
Also they're free to work nowhere and die if they like, that's how actual life works.
Samuel Gomez
Yea, it's so much better spending that trillion on an airplane that's going to sit in a hangar somewhere doing nothing. Real intelligent sound argument user
Julian Diaz
thats not how a society works. you clearly have no understanding of why taxes exist at all. you appear to just think its some burden of the government robbing you because they hate you, or something. go live on an island if you dont want to contribute to the betterment of the citizens youre SHARING a country with.
Blake Lee
>No one has a right to education, or anything else for that matter And yet you conservative faggots are the first ones to raise hell about your rights and MUH CONSTITUTION every time something happens, or might happen, that you don't like.
Hilarious.
Bentley Russell
>Thinking this is how economics works Fucking kill yourself
Logan Martinez
Wtf, colleges accept any mouth breathing retard, I'm from the boonies but I have a masters, you see, I DONT WANT TO PAY UPWARDS OF 200k FOR A CAR OFF THE LOT. PUBLIC TRANSIT DOESNT EXIST.
Chase Phillips
>look at source >Vice
Angel Evans
Who is going to do that since the left are liberal pussys who get PTSD from even shooting a rifle?
Logan Lopez
id kill myself, but then youd bitch that your tax dollars are being wasted on police and other services that have to clean up my corpse
youre just a greedy selfish ignorant asshole
theres like 20 articles on it. google is your friend
Christopher Jackson
You are an idiot. with out the constitution then the government would take away your right to free speach, be allowed to kill you for speaking against anything they do and you couldn't do shit about it. Try actually reading the damn thing before you start spewing shit from you mouth. Any yes not everyone needs to go to college because when they do, you end up diminishing the standards of education like they are currently doing because of you fucking libtards to to point where it is meaningless.
Nathan Sanchez
Where is the correlation? Two completely different things.
Landon Phillips
An enormous number of people go to college anyway despite the bullshit cost because they see it as the only way to get a decent career.
We could also provide education other than college for free as well, like trade schools.
Also notice how in other countries where people go to college for free that isn't how things work.
Benjamin Myers
complaining about problems that are 100% related to overpopulation, but trying to conveniently put it on people who are for social equality instead of just calling it what it is. scumbag republitards like yourself are the problem. you try to block abortion, block sex education with your abstinence bullshit, then when nothing in society works anymore, you blame the liberals who are trying to get republicans to stop treating humans like dirt
Jaxson James
You just said we didn't have any rights you drooling mong.
Cooper Cruz
I think I'm going to have to hire a professional English decoder to translate what the fuck you just said into something that makes sense.
Jack Hill
>Being unfamiliar with the basis of civil society That's because the constitution is the basis of all legitimate governance in the United States of America, and it specifically includes the right to personal property while nowhere indicating that it is a national imperative to force citizens to sacrifice their own labor and resources on the behalf of others when they don't wish to.
Joseph Sanders
welcome to every conversation with a republican. full of hypocrisies, strawman arguments, and redundancies to wear you out so youll cave to their blatantly ignorant statements
Christopher Campbell
I'm pretty sure it says in the bible that the government should use their money on the military instead of helping out the poor.
It's unchristian to not spend money on the army.
Matthew Bailey
*my sides*
Luke Young
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Kevin Brooks
Excepting Ivy leagues, our colleges suck. We have plenty of graduates running around now who are nearly unemployable. This would just funnel money into bloated, opportunistic state universities.
David Nguyen
Calling conservicucks "Americans" is like calling England a part of Europe - technically true but hotly debated.
Ayden James
Because the defense budget isnt even all that much of our national budget.
Besides, economy > free college
Lincoln Morales
make it illegal for jobs to require college degrees then? lol, whats the solution here.
low quality bait
Owen Flores
>economy > free college This is why paid college is a good thing. We won't have to deal with as many retards like this guy.
>assuming he would even go to college, and not just run a gun range or hunt deer for a living
Jace Wood
Everybody in India and their grandma's has an engineering degree. I don't see how that helps India be any more educated, instead, people are poor, shit on the streets, and rape any girl that crosses their path.
Christian Baker
>Everybody in India and their grandma's has an engineering degree
>citation needed
Mason Green
>assuming niggers would even go to college and not just join a gang and sell drugs for a living
Jonathan Morgan
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II Read up on the F-35, and it isn't one aircraft there is at least 3 different models to be developed/are being developed, and the aircraft is only receiving funding from America, although it is one of the major supporters. And the program to develop the F-35 could pay for student loans, sure, but mind you if you are a student that chooses to attend post-secondary education, then pay for your own debts. One F-35 will cost around 120 million dollars to build. I could also go into detail about how horrible the F-35 is but I will not, I'll finish this post with one sentence. You dumbass Americans should have dropped out of the deal like the Canadians did.
Eli Sanders
Simple. We dont get to choose how the military spends its money.
and the military is supposed to be for the common protection... where as paying for college is for an individual. i paid for my own, got my own loans, and paid them back after getting a job, EVERYONE can get gov loans. so only freeloaders bitch
Charles Hill
It's not bait. Do you know how many people work on those military airplanes? Maintenance? Are you in favor in reducing our defense budget, and if so are you in favor of cutting a shit ton of jobs? You cannot have it both ways.
You're not entitled to free college. You work for it, whether it be joining the military or saving your money.
>I'll put a shit ton of people out of work just so I can go to college for free because I deserve it!
Kayden Howard
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Blake White
and yet all the jobs are going to india. pretty soon theyll have a far greater employment rate than the us
exactly my point. people freaking out acting like every single person in america is going to go rush into college, is just being an extremist jew
basing your entire economy on murdering other countries. do i even need to go any further?
Dominic Ortiz
education is a social benefit. just like social security, disability, veteran payouts, etc etc. all your public schools are paid for by tax dollars. community college is also run on tax dollars. so no, college is not for the individual. its for the greater good of the entire US as a whole. if we have a ton of jobs requiring college education, but half the country cant afford college education, then were going to have a lopsided economy like we have now. a nation of people in debt = less money being spent on goods and services that actually fuel the economy
Benjamin Edwards
Google this: 1.5 Million Engineering Pass Outs In India Every Year, Fewer Getting Hired..
This is what happens when you make higher education accessible to everyone, it becomes worthless, tax dollars horribly spent
Oliver Wilson
sorry to burst your bubble there, but wasting money so more of you libtards can get your women's studies and liberal arts degrees is is no way going to help to economy. in fact, it will depreciate it very quickly.
what we need is apprenticeship opportunities, not further government mandated education
Josiah Flores
so the poor should stay poor forever?
you do realize this is why the middle class is disintegrating right?
Elijah Morris
I don't think college should be free but I do think it should be affordable my bro is a lab tech in a Hospital and his pay is shit he save lives on a daily basis but it's paid crappiecrappie
Juan Rodriguez
>I will deny people education and the ability to attain higher paying jobs as well as the ability to start new businesses which create more jobs because I don't want to pay a few extra dollars in taxes
Alexander Fisher
An engineer working as a help desk assistant is a good investment? Jobs are going to india, yes, but they dont reflect upon their investment, rather they get the jobs because they have manpower and good enough trade policies
Dylan Cox
>using the strawman argument that everyone is getting womens studies degrees, to justify not giving people an opportunity to get real degrees
thats like saying we should take all you republicans guns away cuz some kid shot up a school
Camden Jenkins
You've clearly never had to work for anything in your life.
Andrew Rogers
The poor are staying poor in india even with their engineering degrees. India's economy is slowwwwwly improving, but no thanks to education. They have resources and that's making them competitive
Liam Williams
That's funny because I'm closing up in four minutes. Not that you know what that means.
Jordan Myers
>intentionally dodging the issue on hand, to justify not admitting defeat
yes the degree part was meant to be inflammatory, congratulations
Anthony Adams
They're shitting in streets, too. What's your point?
Mason Foster
>closing up your gaping asshole?
But actually this is a great point. You are literally on Sup Forums arguing with an user when you should be working, you lazy faggot. Get the fuck off your phone or get the fuck off someone else's clock, they're not paying you to dick around on the internet.
Adrian Reyes
>entire economy Source?
Also, you should be thankful the military is spending the amount of money it is now. Without the military, you wouldn't have the GPS, the Jeep, antibiotics, the fucking Internet, the digital camera, canned food, microwaves, must I go on? Do you see how these inventions changed our economy and the world? Sony, Kodiak, LG, Microsoft, and every company you know and love got all the shit they're selling because the MILITARY invented them. You're underestimating the importance of the military.
Now tell me again how you'll butcher our defense budget so you can have free college.
No one is denying you shit. If you want college then earn it you lazy prick
Jason Ramirez
they were shitting in streets before education. now they can actually make a living for their families
ps. americans are shitting in the streets as well
Brody Davis
no it isnt. everyone who wants college can get student loans through the government, so you are simply an ignorant fool for having this opinion.
people want to become "artists" and "travel" etc... and dont want to work and cant pay back loans and then bitch that it should be free
I GOT LOANS FROM THE FEDERAL GOV. I also got scholarships for good grades, i got a job and worked out of school...and paid back all loans in 2 years time.
SO no, everyone can do what i did..., they simply dont want to work at it
Jonathan Scott
>because there's always something to do at work >there's no such thing as a slow day >hours are operation are always flexible K
Matthew Miller
>Closing in 4 minutes >engaging in a Sup Forums debate
Lol lol lol, how's your "hard labor" paying you? You want college, earn it!
Wyatt Price
implying any citizen of any other country has control over their government actions
Lincoln Gonzalez
I'm sure this is bait or you just found out your parents are leftists.
But we run an empire, having air superiority is key to maintaining an empire today It's not for one aircraft but all the F-35's.
If everyone has a college degree guess what a college degree is worth fuckface
Michael Myers
>paying taxes >not earning it An hero.
Kayden Ward
There's always something to do at work, idiot. You're clearly a terrible, base level employee if you don't understand this.
Xavier Moore
Because you must learn economics. The more you have of something, the less value it retains. If everyone had a free college degree, it would be devalued. It would soon be akin to a high school diploma in earning power. Then you twits would be crying for a free master's degree, until devalued, then a free doctorate ... and eventually, just demand a six-figure annual check bequeathed by the government. All the while, never realising that it is your next door neighbor, the working person, footing the bill for "rights." This isn't Wonka bucks that the government pulls out of thin air. This explanation will be lost on you, nonetheless.
Jaxson Wood
"no"
Daniel Murphy
being this retarded
you literally just named japanese corporations you dumb fuck
antibiotics = scotland digital camera = japan the jeep = who the fuck cares? nobody drives jeeps microwave=who the fuck cares? a frenchman invented the oven
none of which had to do with military
Isaiah Collins
OP what's your source? I highly doubt they would spend that much on a single aircraft.
Levi Roberts
If everybody could go to college it would completely devalue a college education, ntm the fact that a lot of people shouldn't even be in college in the first place
When college is funded by the government, college is OWNED by the government. When college is owned by the government, it's CONTROLLED by the government