Why is it so hard for people to make a good movie? It seems like every movie has stupid flaws and obvious bad decisions that make you think, "why would they ever do that?".
Why can't some autist with some inspiration and complete control just get together with a group of moderately talented people and make a perfect/amazing movie? It really can't be that difficult.
I don't have much experience, beyond making a couple shorts, but it's not even close to as simple as that.
The fact is that even with an autist having a good deal of control, there's still the issue of getting everyone on the exact same page (if you've ever seen a film set, you'll know there's a metric FUCKton of people involved), making sure everything is perfect, and just being heavily involved and nitpicky the whole way through.
With studios, that shit can't fly. They're a bunch of bureaucratic Jewish fucks who want their moneymakers out as fast as possible, so they cut corners. They have deadlines. They take as much creative control as they need to to make sure it's a guaranteed success, which is often almost all of it.
Take BvS for example. It could have been great, but the studios had to cut a ton of shit out to make it a manageable time, which is why we didn't get the Communion scene.
Parker Cooper
I know, but I don't get it.
Consistently the best movies come from people with more artistic control, so why don't studios just set a strict deadline and not interfere?
The Communion scene is important but they cut that 45 seconds out for no reason.
It's just so odd. It can't be THAT hard to explain to your actors exactly what you want, get what you want from them, use the music you want, get what you want from the editor/edit yourself, and then release it.
It's so odd that good movies are few and far between. Just give full control to autistics who love movies like the Coen Brothers or Tarantino, they're not perfect by any means but they produce consistently pretty good movies.
Julian Hall
It's about consistency, man. They can't risk a flop, so they play it as safe as they can.
I'd love for more Tarantinos or Coens to come out of filmmaking, but the Indie market is the only place you'll get anything even remotely original.
>Why can't some autist with some inspiration and complete control just get together with a group of moderately talented people and make a perfect/amazing movie? It really can't be that difficult. Shane Carruth is your man.
James Evans
Who is that monster?
Caleb Jones
It's not. Plebs like you just have stupid, arbitrary, irrelevant criteria.
Any movie you dislike you just blurt DA ENDING SUKED despite how well filmed it is.
Jackson Gomez
those "bad ideas" were often things that the director or someone else really fought for. to them they were good or great ideas. if directors only ever made what a single person considered a good idea movies would get pretty boring
watching movies is also a skill, and people who are bad at it are the ones who have very rigid ideas about what movies are supposed to do. Ebert was a pro at watching movies, and the better he got at it the more movies he liked. this was because he tried to see the movie from the perspective of the people making it. ie what they were trying to accomplish. if he saw an action movie that had a really anti-climactic final act he wouldn't assume that it was just incompetence, he'd first try to understand why that choice was made
Connor Edwards
god i wonder this so much, nice to know someone else does as well
carruth is such a great example
he had nothing to do with movies but had an idea and fleshed it out properly and thought about things and did everything himself and has made two great films, shame we'll never get to see A Topiary, but A Modern Ocean should be great.
Luke Harris
even his music is good.
You can really tell in Upstream Color that he took learning composition seriously, he doesn't just write shitty "scores" like you hear on TV and in flicks, but he wrote actual, proper compositions that would stand on their own.
His dedication to craft is inspiring in a way that today is really only matched by top chefs, even though I myself have no aspirations of film-making. A complete artist.
Luke Campbell
Immediately what came to my mind. The problem is people want this, but then hate stuff like Upstream Color and write it off as pretentious
Anthony Torres
What is Batman v Superman?
Thomas Bennett
Because production companies like De Laurentiis Entertainment Group and United Artists went out of business.
Carter Lewis
back to the future is the movie you want OP
Austin Morgan
Because people have different opinions.
There are in my opinion perfect movies, but many here would call them fucking stupid.
Nobody will ever make a mivie that all humans will find perfect. Because we are not singular and linear species
Hunter Mitchell
Could you explain that further?
Jeremiah Evans
no just read it again. WTF?
Tyler Garcia
not OP but I think it's pretty clear what he means. He's wondering why movies that have artistic merit and make sense aren't produced much any more. Those two criteria are fairly objective (though, of course there are always outliers).
Also, Sup Forums isn't the best place to come for opinions. There are many on here who will literally just bash anything because it's liked by someone, without any critical insight or knowledge on the subject.
Cameron Reyes
>Why can't some autist with some inspiration and complete control just get together with a group of moderately talented people and make a perfect/amazing movie? >OP's pic is literally that movie
Brandon Perez
>It really can't be that difficult >a perfect/amazing movie C'mon...
Ayden Evans
This is a good answer.
There's also the fact that Fellini's studio fell out of favour... And the Italian Craftsmen have a reputation for 'taking too long'. The last film with a major production in Italy was apparently Gangs of New York, which looked amazing, but didn't have a great story.
Nicholas Scott
It's funny; I think I gained just as much perspective and appreciation of movies from watching bad ones as I did from watching good ones. Watching only good movies gives less than half the big picture of movies as a whole. It leaves a void in one's understanding of them.
Jack Butler
I have the feeling that this R-rated cut will do for BvS as tge director's cut did for Daredevil. It will make a mess of a movie much more coherent but hardly anyone will want to watch it to compare.
Ryder Ramirez
The demarcation between children and adult entertainment has been so blurred that adults raised on children's entertainment with bits thrown in to appeal to adults lack appreciation of more mature movies.
Jason Harris
I don't want to believe it, but I guess the idea of cultural industry of Horkeheimer and Adorno is kind of true. A movie is a product and needs to create a profit. Standardization and distribution to greater number of masses is unavoidable then. I think it was always like that, it's just the numbers are so ridiculusly huge that movie needs to be more similar, dumbed down and safe in order to generate profit. Also, movie like godfather could be a blockbuster at one point, today masses wouldn't even notice it
Robert Carter
Because people are plebs and enjoy pleb stuff. Movies have to sell. There are tight schedules and other constraints.
The worst of it all isn't from the studios, it comes from the fact that contrary to a statue or a symphony, it relies on multiple people interacting. And not two but hundreds of people. It's virtually impossible to get everyone on line with the director's intentions.
In an orchestra you have an already established composition and endless autistic repetitions of every bits. You just can't get the same level of perfectionism in a movie when there are 100x more factors at play in a video than in sound only and 100x the budget per minute spent. Kubrick allegedly spent sometimes half a day of shooting for a single short sequence. He is known as a perfectionist, but in a high class orchestra with a competent director that would be standard procedure for the whole piece of music.
What you are asking for would cost six gorillonz of dollars to produce. That's a whole shekel shoah. So the Jews in control of studios want to produce pleb stuff to make bank. I don't blame them that much.
Chase Mitchell
Darkseid: Snyder edition
He's a Darksnyder
Colton Walker
bump
Luis Morgan
>complete control the jews need to make sure they'll get their money
Grayson Baker
Some say his name is Steppenwolf
Zachary Clark
The jews ruined everything. Movies were creative in the 70-80s. In the 90s they were much more commercial. By the 00s movies were fucked. On the other hand I've been watching old as fuck movies and it's comfy.
Noah Morris
Hindsight
Cameron Collins
>tfw we'll never have as big a disaster as Cannon Films again
Bentley Powell
It's not the movies. Either you've been on Sup Forums too long and just hate every film that's ever existed or your just an obnoxious hard to please ass. I'm honestly starting to think everyone on Sup Forums is just a bunch of failed wannabe film makers and just shit on everything that comes out. You expect every film to be like godfather or citizen Kane tier, rather than realizing it's just stories and entertainment and nothing more
Connor Flores
>autism the post Thanks senpai
Kayden Sanchez
You have to differentiate the memesters and the Sup Forums'ers The memesters don't actually watch films and are just looking for the hottest new forced meme since Sup Forums has no community anymore
But most actual Sup Forums'ers actually enjoy films Thing is, there are some autists who can't handle their favourite film being criticised so assume that's it's due to contrarianism or memeing
You only have to look at the abundance of capeshit threads to realise that Sup Forums isn't actually some pretentious den of wannabe cinephiles hating everything to seem smart