What are Sup Forums's thoughts on James Bond and its place in society

What are Sup Forums's thoughts on James Bond and its place in society.

Connery best Bond

I've never watched a Bond movie. I'm 54.

tbqh it's a toss up between him and moore, I don't really like the new phase stuff.

I made this before SPECTRE. I'm thinking I'd probably put it in the "Good" tier.

babys first bond movie tierlist

I unironically enjoy Quantum of Solace.

>View to a Kill not corny but enjoyable tier

Diamonds are forever and dad deserve to be in lowest tier

i'd personally place ohmss to great tier, thunderball to corny, skyfall to good, quantum to great but apart from that its pretty spot on

Bump Thunderball or FRWL to God tier.

Knock Goldfinger down one.

In either event, FYEO should not be that high. MWTGG is best Moore.

You only got one of the Shit tiers correct.

y'know, i was with you until you put FRWL that low on the list

see , totally agree with you

>QoS
I NEED a webm of the Opera sequence.

I think Die Another Day and The World is Not Enough should be switched

James Bond as a franchise is dead just like Britain.

I don't know if I just had a horrible knee-jerk reaction to Spectre that has stuck with me, but I think Spectre was worse than QoS. I think Spectre is actually the worst Craig movie.

>Its a people pretend Skyfall was good episode


Rankings Craigs films with themes

>Casino Royale

Film: 9/10
Theme: 9/10

>QOS

Film: 1/10
Theme: 0/10

>Skyfall

Film: 5/10
Theme: 2/10

>Spectre

Film: 1/10
Theme: -1/10

Man, I really do not like any of those MGM CLASSIC cover art for ANY of those movies. Too goddamn ugly

QoS is best watched immediately after Casino Royale - it's like a really good extended third act to it.

In 20 Years i think bond fans will look back pretty fondly on it, as they do with Living Daylights and Dalton.

I think people like Skyfall not because it's exactly good but because it's pretty. The cinematography is undeniably gorgeous. The settings, the costumes (like pic related), the vehicles and machinery. It's an extremely beautiful movie all told.

The trouble is the story makes no sense.

>Casino Royale
>Theme: 9/10
I dont even remember it

It looked great but that doesn't make it a good film

Craig has 1 (ONE) good Bond film

yes, yes, NO, YES, NO, hell no.

I liked the Spectre opening songI think it's the best one

People keep trying to lure me into seeing Skyfall with the promise that Judi Stench's M dies. Not enough.

>Liking the Spectre song

End your life

Friendly reminder that Brosnan is the best Bond and Christopher Lee agrees.

holy fuck one of the best james bond scenes ever

The only one true James Bond.

i've been watching every james bond movie since christmas and i finished goldeneye yesterday. here are my rankings so far

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
2. Goldfinger (1964)
3. From Russia With Love (1964)
4. GoldenEye (1995)
5. The Living Daylights (1987)
6. Dr. No (1962)
7. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
8. License to Kill (1989)
9. Live and Let Die (1973)
10. Thunderball (1965)
11. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
12. You Only Live Twice (1967)
13. Diamonds are Forever (1971)
14. The Man With the Golden Gun (1974)
15. A View to A Kill (1985)
16. Moonraker (1979)
17. Octopussy (1983)

Do you know what you'll lose?
>agrees
Agreed, I think you mean.

I know. I'm too much of a lazy fuck to DL it and I only have it on DVD so it's look bad.

webm fags pls

+1, when i first watched it i was waiting for something good to happen and it never did

You're an okay guy, user

>Do you know what you'll lose?
doesn't ring any bells honestly

Nah, probably one of the worst

Casino Royale + Quantam of Solace > Skyfall + Spectre

Anyone agree or is it just me?

>MWGG that low
>Thunderball not top 5
>OHMSS number 1 It's top 5 though
>TLD > L2K
>L&LD and DAF in top 20

Still, pretty good.

Nigga he said he just finished goldeneye

He hasn't even gotten to number 20

>die another day ranked higher than a view to a kill

i was very bored by thunderball. at the time, the underwater stunts were probably amazing. But in 2016, it seems like the entire movie is a slow underwater stunt

I know, but there's no excuse.
Try it again when you get done with the Brosnan ones. The movie is full of energy.
>Current Year
user, pls
Bond is timeless.

i think it also being a very slow paced movie led to this with me too

>you will live to see the first Black James Bond

I liked it because it went more in depth in showing how fucked up Bond was and gave M some significant screen time. The villain actually did stuff too unlike the other Craig Bond films

It was pretty though but I feel like all Bonds are pretty

They will never make Moneypenny AND Bond black
Also Elba should just be a different secret agent character. We could use another one

Bauer is dead
Bourne is getting old and the new movie will probably suck
Bond is going to be rebooted again
Jack Ryan is dead
And Cruise probably has 2 more M:I's in him at best

isnt craig under contract for another movie?

He's a problematic figure who has no place in 2016

Does anybody wonder just what the fuck was the point of bringing back old-fashioned M and Moneypenny and Q? Maybe I just don't hang out in the right corners of the Bond fandom, but did anybody actually want them to come back? I feel like it was all unnecessary.

I mean, fuck, as far as supporting cast goes, I love Tanner a lot more than either new Q or new Moneypenny.

>They will never make Moneypenny AND Bond black

oh yeah, the kikes will stop there lol. they are gonna destroy all races as they rule their Jew Empire from Jerusalem

>They will never make Moneypenny AND Bond black

inb4 Jamal Bond

kek

Will we get interesting Bond movies again if the UK decides to leave the EU?

I mean that would basically kick the need for the 00 Program into overdrive, right? Britain is out on its own, no unions, no allegiances, needing every advantage to survive in an increasingly violent and cruel world. It's Bond movie heaven.

Nostalgia. And to provide more banter and oversight for the character. Q is the worst offender though because the gadgets are so low key now

He is, but he told Sony to fuck off because of how they mismanaged Spectre.

He may still do it, and Waltz recently said he'll come back if Craig does, so there's a chance Craig might be getting a sweet deal.

Why is Sony so shit?

Sony is Japanese. The Japs do many things well, but action movies are not one of them.

Bar-none my favorite franchise out there.

Every movie is one of those that I can just put it on and watch every entry over and over.

I guess because of the silliness of some entries but it's still such a great thing. Thanks, Britbongs. You guys may not make movies at all much but you've got some great shit out there.

Craig killed Bond far more than Brosnan ever did

Agreed. Brosnan was still Bond, Craig movies aren't different from Bournes or Batmans in anything but name.

Craig revived Bond in a time where a silly bond couldn't exist anymore.

Plus Brosnan's only good Bond was Goldeneye. Great actor. Shit direction/writing.

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>Brosnan's only good Bond was Goldeneye 64.

Ftfy and we all know it's true.

>Craig killed Bond
If by that you're meaning in a figurative sense, you're bang on. He headlined the most financially lucrative movie of the franchise. He really does kill it as Bond.

November Man was Brosnan's best Bond film.

The movie itself was fine though even without Goldeneye 64 rose-tinted glasses.

It's still plainly his most grounded and complex/serious Bond film which worked better than the silly ones afterward.

It's just lucky that the game came with it as well.

It's fucking stupid. That Spectre movie was straight retarded.

Sony's distribution rights to the Bond films have ended, so obviously Eon Productions will be finding someone else for the next film.

>Sony is Japanese. The Japs do many things well, but action movies are not one of them

Nothing to do with the Japs. Eon Productions make the films at Pinewood Studios.

>craig
>bond

She always looks like she has Johnny Bravo-esque features in that thumbnail

Best Bond is Moore imo.

The films work best when bond is treated more like a superhero than a real person, particularly when paired with an interesting supervillain. This is why Spy Who Loved Me is so great.

Bond isnt much more than a symbol of raw masculinity, with his gadgets, womanizing, and effortless charm. The appeal is escapism, we want to BE bond, not know his life story or watch him get emotional.

Bond simply doesnt work in the modern age, imo. Everything that made him cool is now politically incorrect, every cool supervillain or gadget now seems cheesy viewed with modern sensibilities, and the stories have dried up to the point where we need to kill off or reintroduce classic characters, or do some gimmicky revelation.

What Bond needs is a revival on the level of Mad Max Fury Road; recapture the raw essence of the best films, and ride the fine line between realism and comic book fantasy.

Real-life Bond approach sucks

>What Bond needs is a revival on the level of Mad Max Fury Road

I was with you up to that point. Moore is top two Bond and anyone who doesn't like him doesn't like Bond, but Fury Road was a steaming pile of horse shit.

I think Janet Suzman would have been a better choice for 'M' rather than Judi Dench. Dench does nothing but blench onscreen, and I found her more unbelievable than any actor's rendition of Bond.

the point is, Fury Road distilled the character/action of a Mad Max movie to its most iconic and pure, and then delivered 200% of that.

Ask yourself, what is the ESSENCE of a bond movie? What about Bond makes him, and a movie featuring him, different from mission impossible or Bourne? If thats hard to do in terms of the current Craig movies, then Bond isn't being done justice.

For me, Bond is about larger-than-life masculine persona, campy but dangerous supervillains, cool gadgets/locations/vehicles, and a slightly surreal take on modern espionage/geopolitics.

The main flaw with Craig movies is they're trying so hard to ground Bond in contemporary "reality" that they lose most of what makes bond cool. They need to tone it up a notch, perhaps even emulate the essence of the Marvel movies.

that said, Goldeneye was the last Bond movie that captured the essence while adequately modernizing the series. The movie had gadgets, campy elements, hot chicks, but also put bond in some real danger and drama at certain points.

I agree with everything you say about Bond movies (up until you suggest they make them more like capeshit).

I just think Mad Max was Mel Gibson, and rebooting it with Tom "literally who" Hardy was as bad as trying to remake Point Break.

>the point is, Fury Road distilled the character/action of a Mad Max movie to its most iconic and pure
pffft

>what is the [ARBITRARY AND SUBJECTIVE DESCRIPTOR] of a Bond movie?
Uh, well dressed men, slammin' broads, disregard for authority, shaken--not stirred--Martinis with Vodka and Lemon peel, shooting, and "detective" work.

In seriousness, how stoned are you right now?

>he thinks daniel craig movies are james bond movies

>he doesn't think Timothy Dalton movies are James Bond movies

I can't stand the campy tone of Bond films so the only ones I enjoy are Craig and Lazenby

1.) Casino Royale
2.) On Her Majesty's Secret Service (they really botched the Blofeld storyline after this, we could've gotten serious Bond like 30 years earlier)
3.) Spectre
4.) Quantum of Solace
5.) Skyfall

>I can't stand the campy tone of Bond films
>Lazenby

ayyy

>Tom "literally who" Hardy

do you know what fucking board you're on

Go watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service again m8, he's quippy but he's not telling jokes as he kills his wife's murderer like that hack Connery

I've seen it and its easily top 5/6.

He infiltrates an office with a fucking crane haha.

That's Bane, not Tom Hardy dude.

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Spectre was the closest thing to the classic Bond films in years. But it felt like no one cared. There was little excitement in the film. And the writing was pretty bad too.

Why do people say Casino Royale is one of the best? I literally only remember him playing a bunch of poker and something about him getting poisoned, stumbling to his car like a train wreck for the antidote, then going right back to playing poker as if nothing fucking happened

>Forgetting about the nut scratching and Eva

gay

>Die Another Day
>Corny but enjoyable
Thank you. Everyone on Sup Forums calls it one of the worst ones but it's honestly my favorite of the three post-Goldeneye Brosnans. It's just so gleefully ridiculous, like the idiot child of Diamonds Are Forever and Moonraker, that I can't hate it no matter how hard I try.

>my face when the girl is legitimately saying I LOVE YOU JAMES

>inb4 WB distributes Bond 25
>inb4 Nolan directs Bond 25
>inb4 Tom Bigguy stars in Bond 25

It's got the onehanded keyboard man.

It's not good, but it's not the worst.

Bond has been Nolan's white whale for years, so I feel like it's only a matter of time until it happens.

Sounds like a terrible idea, but it's not like they can fuck up the franchise any worse than they did over the past decade.

Casino Royale, Skyfall and the first 2/3rds of Spectre are great. Quantum was a blunder but at least it was an interesting blunder.

Bond has always survived by adapting to what was popular at the time, the hardcore fans being triggered over this now is fucking idiotic. People want dark, deconstructionist spy movies in the wake of Bourne so that's what Bond has become, when the trends change to something else that's what Bond will become then too.

So... capeshit?

>unironically naming your film Octopussy
>it's not even porn

My thought is that I want to rape Pam